Pritchard's value in a trade

Curmudgeon · Post #21 » by **Curmudgeon** » Fri May 5, 2023 4:02 pm

Given what people have posted here, just keep Pritchard.

Post #22 » by **165bows** » Fri May 5, 2023 4:04 pm

Poole to Chicago, Derozan and PP (and whatever else) to GS, some assets to Boston.

Kind of like that for all of those teams.

Post #23 » by **djFan71** » Fri May 5, 2023 4:12 pm

Hal14 wrote:Pritchard's handles aren't that good - compared to NBA point guards. He struggles to bring the ball up the floor and get the team into its offense when he's being pressured hard defensively.

I'm not really sure it's his handles that are the problem there, though. It's just lack of quickness to get by people. The dribbling itself is fine, I just think he'd struggle getting by that pressure even without the ball.

He just can't get by dudes consistently. That's why his drives to the lane always look like this:

Hal14 · Post #24 » by **Hal14** » Fri May 5, 2023 4:26 pm

Curmudgeon wrote:Given what people have posted here, just keep Pritchard.

I highly doubt that happens. Pritchard has made it clear multiple times now in the media that he wants out - he wants to go somewhere he will get more playing time.

Pritchard is a good kid - he's been a good sport, he's played hard and given what he can to this organization for 3 years. Brad will do the right thing and grant him his wish for a trade to a team that will give him more playing time.

He's not that valuable on this team anyways. He barely ever plays. Mostly just plays in garbage time. We can have either JD, Madar or some other guy on a veteran's minimum contract do that.

Post #25 » by **165bows** » Fri May 5, 2023 4:56 pm

Hal14 wrote:
Curmudgeon wrote:Given what people have posted here, just keep Pritchard.

I highly doubt that happens. Pritchard has made it clear multiple times now in the media that he wants out - he wants to go somewhere he will get more playing time.

Pritchard is a good kid - he's been a good sport, he's played hard and given what he can to this organization for 3 years. Brad will do the right thing and grant him his wish for a trade to a team that will give him more playing time.

He's not that valuable on this team anyways. He barely ever plays. Mostly just plays in garbage time. We can have either JD, Madar or some other guy on a veteran's minimum contract do that.

I think a Pritchard deal will be very similar to a Brogdon deal (not sure about White), in that they will take a decent bit of input for where he would like to go.

Pretty sure the Pacers did that with Brogdon, and as Boston's not getting a king's ransom either way, I wouldn't be surprised if he gets a non-zero part of the decision making.

Curmudgeon · Post #26 » by **Curmudgeon** » Fri May 5, 2023 5:12 pm

Pritchard has nothing to complain about unless the paychecks don't cash. Everyone in the NBA wants more playing time. Pritchard is a very good player and I'm not giving him up for peanuts, which is what a majority of the posters here seem ready to do.

Hal14 · Post #27 » by **Hal14** » Fri May 5, 2023 5:17 pm

Curmudgeon wrote:Pritchard has nothing to complain about unless the paychecks don't cash. Everyone in the NBA wants more playing time. Pritchard is a very good player and I'm not giving him up for peanuts, which is what a majority of the posters here seem ready to do.

Brad will get fair market value for him.

And he will trade Pritchard to a team that will give him more playing time.

I trust Brad - he's proven to be very good at what he does.

leper-con · Post #28 » by **leper-con** » Fri May 5, 2023 6:23 pm

I'm sure the Celtics could get a mid to late first round pick for Double P.

playa-hater · Post #29 » by **playa-hater** » Fri May 5, 2023 6:25 pm

I still think Payton pritchard plus our 33rd pick is good ammunition to move up into the twenties... I also think Utah would consider trading that last 1st round pick straight up for pritchard.. Utah cannot use any more rookies... Getting somebody with who's still young with NBA experience at a position they need is better than what's probably available.

timpiker · Post #30 » by **timpiker** » Fri May 5, 2023 7:35 pm

No trade!!! He's a keeper.

brackdan70 · Post #31 » by **brackdan70** » Sat May 6, 2023 2:20 am

Mid second rounder or a similar non rotation bench guy on a rookie contract. Not much value on his own.

brackdan70 · Post #32 » by **brackdan70** » Sat May 6, 2023 2:21 am

playa-hater wrote:I still think Payton pritchard plus our 33rd pick is good ammunition to move up into the twenties... I also think Utah would consider trading that last 1st round pick straight up for pritchard.. Utah cannot use any more rookies... Getting somebody with who's still young with NBA experience at a position they need is better than what's probably available.

Yeah packaging him with that pick to move up a few spots is realistic value.

brackdan70 · Post #33 » by **brackdan70** » Sat May 6, 2023 2:24 am

leper-con wrote:I'm sure the Celtics could get a mid to late first round pick for Double P.

I don’t think that’s very realistic. 1st round picks hold a lot of value due to potential. We know what Pritchard is and he has played two seasons of his rookie contract so he doesn’t have that kind of value. He is fringe rotation guy.

BK_2020 · Post #34 » by **BK_2020** » Sat May 6, 2023 2:35 am

brackdan70 wrote:
leper-con wrote:I'm sure the Celtics could get a mid to late first round pick for Double P.

I don’t think that’s very realistic. 1st round picks hold a lot of value due to potential. We know what Pritchard is and he has played two seasons of his rookie contract so he doesn’t have that kind of value. He is fringe rotation guy.

He's played 3 seasons and he's like 26 years old.

brackdan70 · Post #35 » by **brackdan70** » Sat May 6, 2023 2:38 am

BK_2020 wrote:
brackdan70 wrote:
leper-con wrote:I'm sure the Celtics could get a mid to late first round pick for Double P.

I don’t think that’s very realistic. 1st round picks hold a lot of value due to potential. We know what Pritchard is and he has played two seasons of his rookie contract so he doesn’t have that kind of value. He is fringe rotation guy.

He's played 3 seasons and he's like 26 years old.

Oh man right. 3 already. But yeah he doesn’t have first round pick trade value.

brackdan70 · Post #36 » by **brackdan70** » Sat May 6, 2023 2:40 am

BK_2020 wrote:
brackdan70 wrote:
leper-con wrote:I'm sure the Celtics could get a mid to late first round pick for Double P.

I don’t think that’s very realistic. 1st round picks hold a lot of value due to potential. We know what Pritchard is and he has played two seasons of his rookie contract so he doesn’t have that kind of value. He is fringe rotation guy.

He's played 3 seasons and he's like 26 years old.

Oh man right. 3 already. But yeah he doesn’t have first round pick trade value.

cl2117 · Post #37 » by **cl2117** » Sat May 6, 2023 4:06 pm

Pritchard is getting underrated in here.

I've got his value as a very late first (25-30) or more likely very early 30's 2nd. If you were to attach a good 2nd rounder (like #33) to him I think he could get you up into the early 20's or even the very late teens for the right team (GSW/MIA). Alternatively I think he could get you 2-4 mediocre 2nds (a weirdly popular route these days).

He doesn't have a high ceiling, but with his shooting he's got a solid floor. He's a 40% shooter from 3pt range and that's easily the most valuable skill in today's NBA. He's got massive range and he's solid in other aspects (ball-handling/floor vision). He's got obvious shortcomings because of his height but he's better than you'd expect on the boards and defensively.

He was a legit rotation piece for the Celtics team that went to the Finals last season and he was solid in his role. That was with only 1 season under his belt. He was a 4 year college guy, so you can't say he's got much more room to grow, but just with some seasoning and more opportunity I think he can iron out his rough edges and be a rotation piece for a playoff team. That historically has been worth a late first or multiple 2nds.

Just looking at trades in recent years:

Jae Crowder traded for 5 second round picks
Denathony Melton traded straight up for #23 by Philly
Aaron Holiday traded along with #31 for #22 by Wizards

That I think runs the gamut for the value I see Pritchard as having. He's better than Holiday, worse than Melton and on par at least with Crowder (if not better). Think his value sits somewhere in here.

It obviously comes down to time and place. I could see the market only offering mid-2nd rounder because he really holds value only for contending teams for the most part and they might just not be in a position to pony up more than that and/or not have a need for him. That being said, I can't imagine Brad trades him for that kind of value because purely as insurance he's more valuable as a towel-waver than a mid-2nd.

Would be great to do him a solid and get him to a place where he can get more minutes, but I wouldn't want to take a bath on his value just to do it. Don't think that'll be necessary though, multiple teams were apparently interested and I think eventually someone bites at a reasonable price.

Curmudgeon · Post #38 » by **Curmudgeon** » Sat May 6, 2023 4:39 pm

Pritchard is a guy picked in the late 20's who has proven himself in the NBA. So you want to trade him for a pick in the late 20's to select a player who hasn't? LOL.

BK_2020 · Post #39 » by **BK_2020** » Sat May 6, 2023 4:50 pm

Curmudgeon wrote:Pritchard is a guy picked in the late 20's who has proven himself in the NBA. So you want to trade him for a pick in the late 20's to select a player who hasn't? LOL.

Pritchard is a garbage time player right now.

Curmudgeon · Post #40 » by **Curmudgeon** » Sat May 6, 2023 5:53 pm

BK_2020 wrote:
Curmudgeon wrote:Pritchard is a guy picked in the late 20's who has proven himself in the NBA. So you want to trade him for a pick in the late 20's to select a player who hasn't? LOL.

Pritchard is a garbage time player right now.

Yes, he's not as good as Smart, White or Brogdon. But Pritchard is a rotation player on at least half the teams in the league, which is an unlikely projection for most draft picks in 20's, many of whom will end up in the D-league or overseas.

I have no problem trading Pritchard for his basketball value, preferably to the Western Conference.

What is Pritchard's value in a trade?