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Re: No Cheesesteaks For Us! Game 4 Loss vs PHI 5/7 (Series tied 2-2) 

Post#281 » by The Corey's » Sun May 7, 2023 11:55 pm

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ajones9219 wrote:We can all piss and moan about the late game stuff but at the end of the day we got home court back and it took an absolute herculean effort at home for Philly to squeak out a win. We are in great shape.

You can't be serious.



He accused me of not understanding how to use the word woke and given the context of how he said it it's pretty clear what he meant.

This clown needs a vacation pearl. I keep my **** on the game, these people coming out of the woodwork making it personal.
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Re: No Cheesesteaks For Us! Game 4 Loss vs PHI 5/7 (Series tied 2-2) 

Post#282 » by Ben-N1ce » Sun May 7, 2023 11:55 pm

Stan34 wrote:Dumb Jaylen, he had a solid game. Only one TO, 5 assist some down the stretch too and then you make a stupid error like that? Unexcusable.

Said that I don't understand why +5 down the stretch, Smart with the ball takes a stupid step back 3 with Tucker on him. Why?

And too many offensive rebounds in crucial time by Phila.

Last possession, phila has no time-out. You have to take a shot 4/5 seconds left on the clock. If JT misses and the sixers get a rebound we foul theme having one more shot to tie or win.
Why take the shot at the buzzer?

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Re: No Cheesesteaks For Us! Game 4 Loss vs PHI 5/7 (Series tied 2-2) 

Post#283 » by ajones9219 » Sun May 7, 2023 11:57 pm

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Lol. You're out here with you're racist buzzwords and implicating them on me? For what.

Get out of here with that nonsense.

As for the poster you're replying too. Never heard of them. Stay in the shadows. Beta was used correctly.


Racist buzzwords? I'm not going to sit here and be accused of racism.


Isn't that what you was doing when you accused me for some reason out of no where for not understanding how to use the word woke?

You know what you did. Own it.


Woke isn't a racist term lol. I am saying anyone who uses the word Beta unironically is probably the same type of person to use the word Woke unironically. There is no correct way to use either word that doesn't sound childish and silly.
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Re: No Cheesesteaks For Us! Game 4 Loss vs PHI 5/7 (Series tied 2-2) 

Post#284 » by The Corey's » Sun May 7, 2023 11:57 pm

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Racist buzzwords? I'm not going to sit here and be accused of racism.


Isn't that what you was doing when you accused me for some reason out of no where for not understanding how to use the word woke?

You know what you did. Own it.


Woke isn't a racist term lol. I am saying anyone who uses the word Beta unironically is probably the same type of person to use the word Woke unironically. There is no correct way to use either word that doesn't sound childish and silly.


Right.
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Re: No Cheesesteaks For Us! Game 4 Loss vs PHI 5/7 (Series tied 2-2) 

Post#285 » by The_Ghost_of_JB » Sun May 7, 2023 11:58 pm

I think honestly what upsets me the most about this team is there 500 record at home. That is why I am so pissed off at this loss this team has no home court advantage at all
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Re: No Cheesesteaks For Us! Game 4 Loss vs PHI 5/7 (Series tied 2-2) 

Post#286 » by ConstableGeneva » Sun May 7, 2023 11:58 pm

Didn't listen to the full interview but based on the quote, they were really going for the last shot. WHY?!!? YOU ARE DOWN 1!!!

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Re: No Cheesesteaks For Us! Game 4 Loss vs PHI 5/7 (Series tied 2-2) 

Post#287 » by return2glory » Sun May 7, 2023 11:58 pm

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The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:As bad as Joe is this isn't all on him. Tatum no show to the first half, Boston missed 14 out of 15 shots at one point, they couldn't grab a rebound and for some reason Brown thought it was a good idea to double team Embiid


It is absolutely never one reason. So yes it is not all on Joe.. But again I ask a question is he actually an asset to this team winning a title..


Did you think Brad was an asset as coach? From what I recall, you weren't too big on Brad either.

Joe was really good overall in the regular season. He was thrown into the position as a rookie coach weeks before the season started. He is a rookie coach. Celtics knew that, meaning Brad and the owners. Did they try to get an assistant coach or two with NBA coaching experience with help him? No. They even allowed Damon Stoudamire to walk before this season even ended.

To blame a rookie head coach is a little much. Joe has struggled in the playoffs but so have our two all stars, especially in close games. Look at watch some of the top coaches have done in the playoffs, including Nurse and Bud.
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Re: No Cheesesteaks For Us! Game 4 Loss vs PHI 5/7 (Series tied 2-2) 

Post#288 » by ajones9219 » Sun May 7, 2023 11:59 pm

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ajones9219 wrote:
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Isn't that what you was doing when you accused me for some reason out of no where for not understanding how to use the word woke?

You know what you did. Own it.


Woke isn't a racist term lol. I am saying anyone who uses the word Beta unironically is probably the same type of person to use the word Woke unironically. There is no correct way to use either word that doesn't sound childish and silly.


Right.


And then calling for me to be banned. Very classy. I am the one keeping it on the game and not lobbing personal insults on the players/coach.
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Re: No Cheesesteaks For Us! Game 4 Loss vs PHI 5/7 (Series tied 2-2) 

Post#289 » by The Corey's » Mon May 8, 2023 12:02 am

ajones9219 wrote:
The Corey's wrote:
ajones9219 wrote:
Woke isn't a racist term lol. I am saying anyone who uses the word Beta unironically is probably the same type of person to use the word Woke unironically. There is no correct way to use either word that doesn't sound childish and silly.


Right.


And then calling for me to be banned. Very classy. I am the one keeping it on the game and not lobbing personal insults on the players/coach.



Vacation. Not banned.

I'm not going down the warning path because someone low key calling me a racist.

Sorry fellas, ajones says we're not allowed to take shots at players and coaches.

Don't know what the **** we're even doing here.
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Re: No Cheesesteaks For Us! Game 4 Loss vs PHI 5/7 (Series tied 2-2) 

Post#290 » by keevsnick1 » Mon May 8, 2023 12:02 am

Brown in the regular season took 27.5 shots per 100 possessions, 21 per 100 in this round.
Tatum is 27.5 and 24.7 ( but a lot of that dip is 7 shots in 19 minutes in game 2).
Brogdon is 20.2 and 24.6
White is 15.8 and 14.5
Smart is 14.7 and 19.3

So Browns shots are way down, and most seem to be going to Brogdan and Smart. Which okay fine, Brogdan has a 63.7 TS% and Smart has a 56.4 TS%. But Brown is at 68.6 TS% this series.

In games Brown takes 16 or fewer shots this playoffs the Celtics are 1-3, in games he takes 17 or more they are 5-1.

I don't think the amount of shots Brown takes is DIRECTLY related to winning and losing, but I think it's related to the way the C's are running offense, which might be related to winning/losing.
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Re: No Cheesesteaks For Us! Game 4 Loss vs PHI 5/7 (Series tied 2-2) 

Post#291 » by ajones9219 » Mon May 8, 2023 12:02 am

Marvel wrote:
ajones9219 wrote:We can all piss and moan about the late game stuff but at the end of the day we got home court back and it took an absolute herculean effort at home for Philly to squeak out a win. We are in great shape.

You can't be serious.


No reason to dwell on it. On to the next game. We are headed home tied 2-2. We got home court back. We should be up at least 3-1 but all you can do is tighten up and win the next one.

Never have seen the value in dwelling on a loss.
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Re: No Cheesesteaks For Us! Game 4 Loss vs PHI 5/7 (Series tied 2-2) 

Post#292 » by The Corey's » Mon May 8, 2023 12:03 am

The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:I think honestly what upsets me the most about this team is there 500 record at home. That is why I am so pissed off at this loss this team has no home court advantage at all


What upsets me the most is were 7 years into this and the core still can't close out games.

At the end of the day, that's what it is. They don't close our games.
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Re: No Cheesesteaks For Us! Game 4 Loss vs PHI 5/7 (Series tied 2-2) 

Post#293 » by ajones9219 » Mon May 8, 2023 12:03 am

The Corey's wrote:
ajones9219 wrote:
The Corey's wrote:
Right.


And then calling for me to be banned. Very classy. I am the one keeping it on the game and not lobbing personal insults on the players/coach.



Vacation. Not banned.

I'm not going down the warning path because someone low key calling me a racist.

Sorry fellas, ajones says we're not allowed to take shots at players and coaches.

Don't know what the **** we're even doing here.


You can take shots at the players/coaches and I call call you out for it. How is that out of bounds?

And again, I would love to know how what I said was calling you racist literally at all.
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Post#294 » by return2glory » Mon May 8, 2023 12:04 am

ajones9219 wrote:We can all piss and moan about the late game stuff but at the end of the day we got home court back and it took an absolute herculean effort at home for Philly to squeak out a win. We are in great shape.


Except home court doesn't mean much to this current Celtic's team. They aren't that great at home.
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Post#295 » by threrf23 » Mon May 8, 2023 12:04 am

Green89 wrote: You can afford to do that when tied, but NEVER should that happen when you're down. That's a mistake you shouldn't even see in high school basketball.


Honestly, I think it's defensible, it's like a college football team going for a 2 point conversion in OT when an extra point would ensure another overtime period. It's high stakes and from an objective standpoint it can make sense.

But high stakes require that you treat the situation accordingly. You need to have a play prepared for that specific situation. Your players ideally need to be prepared to execute something they have practiced over and over for several weeks. If you are not prepared, then you should be playing it safe.

Maybe I'm being unfair cause it wasn't an elimination game, and cause we were several tenths of a second away from a win, but we didn't get a shot off before the red light. And it was Marcus taking the shot.

He has big balls and was shooting 4-9 from 3, so I'm ok with that, but down one I'm pretty certain we could have done even better.

editing to add - on a little bit of reflection, I think the ideal play here is to try and get off a GREAT shot early in the shot clock (game clock), and if it's not there, then you call a timeout and regroup.
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Post#296 » by PierceFan4ever » Mon May 8, 2023 12:05 am

ConstableGeneva wrote:Didn't listen to the full interview but based on the quote, they were really going for the last shot. WHY?!!? YOU ARE DOWN 1!!!

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This has to be the third time late this season where Tatum started is move wayyyy too late. I don’t **** understanding, once you get the ball and start going towards the hoop there’s no **** way you’re gonna be single covered so you have to go quicker to make the pass and worst case scenario they close out quick and another swing has to be made for the open shot yet by the time tatum dribbled, I knew it was too late to do anything then other then chuck I double teamed shot. Tatum has to read the clock better, smart too with the slow ass walk up the court. Even shooting for the last shot was the wrong play, take 2 shots at it, if you miss, foul them see if they made their free throws, it would’ve still been a one possession game but nope they did the worst possible outcome along with one of the stupidest mistakes ever on defense by Jaylen brown the previous play which ended the game.
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Re: No Cheesesteaks For Us! Game 4 Loss vs PHI 5/7 (Series tied 2-2) 

Post#297 » by ajones9219 » Mon May 8, 2023 12:05 am

return2glory wrote:
ajones9219 wrote:We can all piss and moan about the late game stuff but at the end of the day we got home court back and it took an absolute herculean effort at home for Philly to squeak out a win. We are in great shape.


Except home court doesn't mean much to this current Celtic's team. They aren't that great at home.


We are great though when coming off a loss. We have been for the past few years. 100% confidence we take game 5.
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Post#298 » by PierceFan4ever » Mon May 8, 2023 12:06 am

return2glory wrote:
ajones9219 wrote:We can all piss and moan about the late game stuff but at the end of the day we got home court back and it took an absolute herculean effort at home for Philly to squeak out a win. We are in great shape.


Except home court doesn't mean much to this current Celtic's team. They aren't that great at home.


Yup. Awful home team in the Jays era. They bring it every other home game but never consistently for multiple games.
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Re: No Cheesesteaks For Us! Game 4 Loss vs PHI 5/7 (Series tied 2-2) 

Post#299 » by Shak_Celts » Mon May 8, 2023 12:11 am

ajones9219 wrote:
makubesu wrote:
ajones9219 wrote:I am all for accountability when it's placed correctly. Brown for helping off the 3, and Tatum for running the clock down. Hell I can even ride not liking Joe not taking the timeout, but it's been the plan for multiple of our coaches.

I am just not scapegoating like people love to do here with Joe and Tatum. For better or worse, Joe made the same play that our last 2 coaches have made and everybody acts like Ime was some coaching genius for doing the same thing. Tatum making the correct read and pass is not beta. It actually is the opposite. It shows maturity in his game vs forcing shots like he did early in his career.

It’s not worth the effort man, this guy basically spends the whole game thread personally insulting our players. If someone unironically is using the phrase “beta”, you should leave the scolding to their mother.


Probably uses woke unironically as well

Stop, now.
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Re: No Cheesesteaks For Us! Game 4 Loss vs PHI 5/7 (Series tied 2-2) 

Post#300 » by Infinite Llamas » Mon May 8, 2023 12:11 am

Has a coach ever been fired mid series?

Give Nurse a call now tonight.

Harden being open for that three was disastrous because worst case is a two only tied the game…
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