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Re: OT: Leafs Playoff Run 

Post#601 » by Vampirate » Mon May 8, 2023 1:45 am

Brinbe wrote:ngl, this one hurts. my fatith in this core is officially shaken. they need to retool and make some real changes. they're never contending with this core as is


It's a coin flip on which Toronto team wins a championship first moving forewords.

The Leafs have the most talent, but are team disappointment.

The Jays just making the playoffs is shaky.

The Raptors are pining their hopes on 1 guy. Barnes. It's a coin flip if he reaches his potential as we don't know yet. Year 2 wasn't great.
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Re: OT: Leafs Playoff Run 

Post#602 » by Ranger One » Mon May 8, 2023 1:51 am

They cant possibly run this Core back next season right? 7 years of playoffs failure and embarrassment has to be damning enough no? Then again, the Leaf corporate machine only cares about $$$, and as long as this team keeps winning 50 games a season and selling out every game there is really no incentive for any wholesale changes. Playoffs are just a tiny additional source of revenue when they're already making billions a year.
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Re: OT: Leafs Playoff Run 

Post#603 » by JB7 » Mon May 8, 2023 1:56 am

Ranger One wrote:They cant possibly run this Core back next season right? 7 years of playoffs failure and embarrassment has to be damning enough no? Then again, the Leaf corporate machine only cares about $$$, and as long as this team keeps winning 50 games a season and selling out every game there is really no incentive for any wholesale changes. Playoffs are just a tiny additional source of revenue when they're already making billions a year.


They will clean house if the Leafs lose this time. The reason Dubas went all in with the trades this year is he knows this is his last chance. Coach & GM for sure. Maybe even Shanahan.

Leafs will always sell out during the season. Playoffs is significant bonus revenue, so ownership definitely wants more rounds.

Matthews might even be traded after this. He only has one year left on his deal.
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Re: OT: Leafs Playoff Run 

Post#604 » by SFour » Mon May 8, 2023 1:57 am

losing this series in 4-5 games is definitely enough of a reason to blow it up....looking back at the Tampa series they stole a bunch of games that they should've lost.
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Re: OT: Leafs Playoff Run 

Post#605 » by NinjaBro » Mon May 8, 2023 1:58 am

Ranger One wrote:They cant possibly run this Core back next season right? 7 years of playoffs failure and embarrassment has to be damning enough no? Then again, the Leaf corporate machine only cares about $$$, and as long as this team keeps winning 50 games a season and selling out every game there is really no incentive for any wholesale changes. Playoffs are just a tiny additional source of revenue when they're already making billions a year.
I used to be a die hard Leafs fan when I was a kid like everyone else in toronto. What you just wrote was the number one reason I quit watching hockey. Every Leafs game was sold out and it didn't matter if we were good or not. There was no incentive for the owners to go for it all as long as money kept coming in. I hated that about the organization.
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Re: OT: Leafs Playoff Run 

Post#606 » by MoneyBall » Mon May 8, 2023 1:58 am

720 wrote:Any chance these guys come back from being down 0-3? Is it basically impossible like how it is in basketball?

Off the top of my head, I know the Senators pulled it off years ago. I don’t see it happening against this Panthers team, though.

Edit: trying to verify it online and apparently I dreamt the whole thing? Unless I'm mixing up the teams lol.
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Re: OT: Leafs Playoff Run 

Post#607 » by C_Money » Mon May 8, 2023 2:02 am

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Ranger One wrote:They cant possibly run this Core back next season right? 7 years of playoffs failure and embarrassment has to be damning enough no? Then again, the Leaf corporate machine only cares about $$$, and as long as this team keeps winning 50 games a season and selling out every game there is really no incentive for any wholesale changes. Playoffs are just a tiny additional source of revenue when they're already making billions a year.
I used to be a die hard Leafs fan when I was a kid like everyone else in toronto. What you just wrote was the number one reason I quit watching hockey. Every Leafs game was sold out and it didn't matter if we were good or not. There was no incentive for the owners to go for it all as long as money kept coming in. I hated that about the organization.

The Raptors have turned that way in recent years as well.
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Re: OT: Leafs Playoff Run 

Post#608 » by will » Mon May 8, 2023 2:03 am

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Ranger One wrote:They cant possibly run this Core back next season right? 7 years of playoffs failure and embarrassment has to be damning enough no? Then again, the Leaf corporate machine only cares about $$$, and as long as this team keeps winning 50 games a season and selling out every game there is really no incentive for any wholesale changes. Playoffs are just a tiny additional source of revenue when they're already making billions a year.
I used to be a die hard Leafs fan when I was a kid like everyone else in toronto. What you just wrote was the number one reason I quit watching hockey. Every Leafs game was sold out and it didn't matter if we were good or not. There was no incentive for the owners to go for it all as long as money kept coming in. I hated that about the organization.

The Raptors have turned that way in recent years as well.


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Re: OT: Leafs Playoff Run 

Post#609 » by bballsparkin » Mon May 8, 2023 2:07 am

One of the rarest accomplishments in the NHL postseason is a 3-0 series comeback. Through the 2021 playoffs, 198 teams have fallen behind 3-0 in a seven-game series. Nine of those teams were able to force a Game 7 and four completed the comeback for a series win. A 2% chance does not bode well for the trailing team, but the NHL still has a more favorable history with 3-0 comebacks compared to the NBA and MLB. Only one MLB team has accomplished the feat and no team has ever done it in the NBA.


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Re: OT: Leafs Playoff Run 

Post#610 » by ItsDanger » Mon May 8, 2023 2:08 am

Dubas is on last year of his contract. He was given way too much leeway to build this team. Instead, he completely wasted this core. Good riddance.
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Re: OT: Leafs Playoff Run 

Post#611 » by Brinbe » Mon May 8, 2023 2:09 am

Vampirate wrote:
Brinbe wrote:ngl, this one hurts. my fatith in this core is officially shaken. they need to retool and make some real changes. they're never contending with this core as is


It's a coin flip on which Toronto team wins a championship first moving forewords.

The Leafs have the most talent, but are team disappointment.

The Jays just making the playoffs is shaky.

The Raptors are pining their hopes on 1 guy. Barnes. It's a coin flip if he reaches his potential as we don't know yet. Year 2 wasn't great.

the jay are contenders. they have the assets to add on to this team and fix their holes.
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Re: OT: Leafs Playoff Run 

Post#612 » by will » Mon May 8, 2023 2:10 am

ItsDanger wrote:Dubas is on last year of his contract. He was given way too much leeway to build this team. Instead, he completely wasted this core. Good riddance.


Where is Cliff Fletcher? :lol:
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Re: OT: Leafs Playoff Run 

Post#613 » by bballsparkin » Mon May 8, 2023 2:13 am

ItsDanger wrote:Dubas is on last year of his contract. He was given way too much leeway to build this team. Instead, he completely wasted this core. Good riddance.


I told my friend this, big Leafs fan. He wasn't hearing it.
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Re: OT: Leafs Playoff Run 

Post#614 » by Vampirate » Mon May 8, 2023 2:14 am

Brinbe wrote:
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Brinbe wrote:ngl, this one hurts. my fatith in this core is officially shaken. they need to retool and make some real changes. they're never contending with this core as is


It's a coin flip on which Toronto team wins a championship first moving forewords.

The Leafs have the most talent, but are team disappointment.

The Jays just making the playoffs is shaky.

The Raptors are pining their hopes on 1 guy. Barnes. It's a coin flip if he reaches his potential as we don't know yet. Year 2 wasn't great.

the jay are contenders. they have the assets to add on to this team and fix their holes.


I'll believe it when I see it.

Tbh no Jays team has ever won more than 95 games in over 25 years which is sad.

The Jays were a perennial .500 team, much like how the Angels are these years despite lucking into Ohtani and Trout.
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Re: OT: Leafs Playoff Run 

Post#615 » by bballsparkin » Mon May 8, 2023 2:14 am

^^AL East is tough!
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Re: OT: Leafs Playoff Run 

Post#616 » by Coco Costanza » Mon May 8, 2023 2:17 am

The Las Vegas Golden Knights managed to make it to the Stanley Cup in their inaugural season. Makes me think (not being a hockey fan) that hockey requires a certain will to win. You either have it or you don't. This Leafs team doesn't have it.
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Re: OT: Leafs Playoff Run 

Post#617 » by Coco Costanza » Mon May 8, 2023 2:20 am

Vampirate wrote:
Brinbe wrote:
Vampirate wrote:
It's a coin flip on which Toronto team wins a championship first moving forewords.

The Leafs have the most talent, but are team disappointment.

The Jays just making the playoffs is shaky.

The Raptors are pining their hopes on 1 guy. Barnes. It's a coin flip if he reaches his potential as we don't know yet. Year 2 wasn't great.

the jay are contenders. they have the assets to add on to this team and fix their holes.


I'll believe it when I see it.

Tbh no Jays team has ever won more than 95 games in over 25 years which is sad.

The Jays were a perennial .500 team, much like how the Angels are these years despite lucking into Ohtani and Trout.


I have to say, this Jays team looks pretty good. We have some issues with our bullpen, but the team has what it takes to make the playoffs. Unfortunately they just happen to play in the toughest division in sports.
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Re: OT: Leafs Playoff Run 

Post#618 » by Brinbe » Mon May 8, 2023 2:21 am

Vampirate wrote:
Brinbe wrote:
Vampirate wrote:
It's a coin flip on which Toronto team wins a championship first moving forewords.

The Leafs have the most talent, but are team disappointment.

The Jays just making the playoffs is shaky.

The Raptors are pining their hopes on 1 guy. Barnes. It's a coin flip if he reaches his potential as we don't know yet. Year 2 wasn't great.

the jay are contenders. they have the assets to add on to this team and fix their holes.


I'll believe it when I see it.

Tbh no Jays team has ever won more than 95 games in over 25 years which is sad.

The Jays were a perennial .500 team, much like how the Angels are these years despite lucking into Ohtani and Trout.

bro, lol that's an artifical take. the jays are in a tough division and have the offense/defense to win. the pitching is the swing but they've held up alright so far. they'll be in the mix and are def a playoff team at the very least. but baseball postseason is like hockey, it doesn't matter if you have an 85-win team or a 110-win team.
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Re: OT: Leafs Playoff Run 

Post#619 » by Vampirate » Mon May 8, 2023 2:22 am

Coco Costanza wrote:The Las Vegas Golden Knights managed to make it to the Stanley Cup in their inaugural season. Makes me think (not being a hockey fan) that hockey requires a certain will to win. You either have it or you don't. This Leafs team doesn't have it.


The Leafs appear to be cursed. But Hockey is weird, the Bruins were the best regular season team ever, had playoff success before and lost in the first round.
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Re: OT: Leafs Playoff Run 

Post#620 » by Potential » Mon May 8, 2023 2:22 am

Wow 1967 was a long time ago. Another failed era for the Laughs.

Blue Jays we need to hope Kikuchi and Berrios can keep it up. The bullpen still needs an upgrade.
The AL East is ridiculously good. It feels like the entire division could win 100 games. (Might be possible this year with the new schedule format) The MLB should just give all 5 AL East teams a bye and have the other 10 AL teams play for the last playoff spot

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