No Cheesesteaks For Us! Game 4 Loss vs PHI 5/7 (Series tied 2-2)

[Homerclease]

I wanted Joe to call a timeout and design a play to get us a better opportunity than this. I believe I’ve been abundantly clear on that point

Every play would have ended up looking basically the same. The Sixers are not just going to let Tatum get an open lane to the basket. They'll put two guys on him and Embiid will be parked in the lane. There's no threat of a 3 second violation. If getting a layup was so easy everyone would shoot 90%.

Joe isn't drawing up anything better than that look. This we agree on.

Then he isn’t qualified to be the head coach of the Boston Celtics.

[BK_2020]

I still can't believe Jaylen helped off Harden.

Still in absolute disbelief he did that

A strong side double off a shooter parked in the corner spot in a 2 point game with 22 seconds left in OT. And to top it off that shooter happens to be one of top 10 best scorers in NBA history.

[rd26]

Lot of flak for Mazulla (justly so) but this is the same low iq bs Tatum Brown and Smart have been doing for years. How come two superstars and the worlds greatest role player can't figure out how to get an open fn shot on the final possession by now? and btw just because 3 pointers are gods gift to basketball these days, doesn't mean settling for a three in a one point game is a good look

Eh? This wasn't open enough for ya?

Had to be a defensive breakdown, no way a team intentionally leaves Smart that open /sarcasm

Just once I wish this team would take what it wants instead of what the opponent gives us.

How many shots did Tucker take down the stretch?

[Hal14]

dang, 1.8? brogs was wide open, needed 1 more swing.

Swing to Brog and Harden easily closes out.

with his back turned and he's leaning to go out to smart? meh, woulda have been a poor closeout. Didn't say it was a bad shot, just trying to get it to a better overall shooter.

Brogdon is a good shooter, but he has a slow release. Really needs lots of time/space to get his shot off. He knows it, too - so often times, if he catches it and has a defender closing out, he'll fake the shot, take a dribble and then shoot it. Obviously there wasn't enough time left (1.8 on the clock) for smart to pass it to him and then have him do all of that.

I'm all for having Brogdon take that shot instead of Smart. But it's just tough to expect a guy to pass up a WIDE open shot, to pass to a guy who is not nearly as open, when there's only 1.8 on the clock.

[Shak_Celts]

Every play would have ended up looking basically the same. The Sixers are not just going to let Tatum get an open lane to the basket. They'll put two guys on him and Embiid will be parked in the lane. There's no threat of a 3 second violation. If getting a layup was so easy everyone would shoot 90%.

Joe isn't drawing up anything better than that look. This we agree on.

Then he isn’t qualified to be the head coach of the Boston Celtics.

I don't see how. That was a wide-open shot. Could have drawn it up for someone else but would the shot be that open? I doubt it.

[Homerclease]

Joe isn't drawing up anything better than that look. This we agree on.

Then he isn’t qualified to be the head coach of the Boston Celtics.

I don't see how. That was a wide-open shot. Could have drawn it up for someone else but would the shot be that open? I doubt it.

A 3 point shot, even that open, is less than 50% chance of going in. I don’t care who takes that shot. It’s ridiculous.

[GoCeltics123]

Tie game. This shot is stupid. I don’t care how open Smart is

I would rather Tatum try to score there, but it's a wide open shot. I wasn't confident at all it was going in though

Logically though, you're not getting a much better shot than that

Nonsense. The clip I posted earlier shows us doing exactly that with nearly identical Personel. Joe just sucks at his job

Comparing a scenario from 2018, when they called timeout on a Marcus Morris contested mid-range, is not in the same stratosphere as a wide-open 3 from Smart at the end. And I say this as someone who is not much of a believer in Smart shooting threes at the end of games.

Realistically, 99% of coaches are not drawing up a play in less than 2 seconds that would be better than a Smart wide-open look. I don't think Joe is a very good coach, and I'm telling you that in under 2 seconds, you are getting jack **** at a look there.

The sequence at the end of OT was like 200000000000x worse than regulation. Jaylen Brown helping off Harden was 10000000000000000000000000000000x times worse than this

[BK_2020]

Lot of flak for Mazulla (justly so) but this is the same low iq bs Tatum Brown and Smart have been doing for years. How come two superstars and the worlds greatest role player can't figure out how to get an open fn shot on the final possession by now? and btw just because 3 pointers are gods gift to basketball these days, doesn't mean settling for a three in a one point game is a good look

Eh? This wasn't open enough for ya?

Had to be a defensive breakdown, no way a team intentionally leaves Smart that open /sarcasm

Just once I wish this team would take what it wants instead of what the opponent gives us.

How many shots did Tucker take down the stretch?

They didn't intentionally leave Smart open. Tatum screens Smart's man to force a switch and get the ball in the wing against Maxey. That's how Celtics set up a lot of their half court sets. Tatum got baseline against Maxey to force the defense to collapse.

[Shak_Celts]

Swing to Brog and Harden easily closes out.

with his back turned and he's leaning to go out to smart? meh, woulda have been a poor closeout. Didn't say it was a bad shot, just trying to get it to a better overall shooter.

Brogdon is a good shooter, but he has a slow release. Really needs lots of time/space to get his shot off. He knows it, too - so often times, if he catches it and has a defender closing out, he'll fake the shot, take a dribble and then shoot it. Obviously there wasn't enough time left (1.8 on the clock) for smart to pass it to him and then have him do all of that.

I'm all for having Brogdon take that shot instead of Smart. But it's just tough to expect a guy to pass up a WIDE open shot, to pass to a guy who is not nearly as open, when there's only 1.8 on the clock.

true.

[Homerclease]

I would rather Tatum try to score there, but it's a wide open shot. I wasn't confident at all it was going in though

Logically though, you're not getting a much better shot than that

Nonsense. The clip I posted earlier shows us doing exactly that with nearly identical Personel. Joe just sucks at his job

Comparing a scenario from 2018, when they called timeout on a Marcus Morris contested mid-range, is not in the same stratosphere as a wide-open 3 from Smart at the end. And I say this as someone who is not much of a believer in Smart shooting threes at the end of games.

Realistically, 99% of coaches are not drawing up a play in less than 2 seconds that would be better than a Smart wide-open look. I don't think Joe is a very good coach, and I'm telling you that in under 2 seconds, you are getting jack **** at a look there.

The sequence at the end of Second OT was like 200000000000x worse than the first one. Jaylen Brown helping off Harden was 10000000000000000000000000000000x times worse than this

Where are you getting less than 2 seconds from? He should’ve called timeout from the onset, advanced the ball and run a play to get a quality look at the basket.

There’s no point in discussing Brown helping off Harden, everyone knows it was dumb and the wrong play. If Joe does his effing job, it may not even come to that

[Shak_Celts]

Eh? This wasn't open enough for ya?

Had to be a defensive breakdown, no way a team intentionally leaves Smart that open /sarcasm

Just once I wish this team would take what it wants instead of what the opponent gives us.

How many shots did Tucker take down the stretch?

They didn't intentionally leave Smart open. Tatum screens Smart's man to force a switch and get the ball in the wing against Maxey. That's how Celtics set up a lot of their half court sets. Tatum got baseline against Maxey to force the defense to collapse.

that's horrible defense, why did every1 need to collapse? Not nearly as dumb as what JB did but where was Niang going and why? I don't think it was because it was Smart because brogs is also wide open.

edit: that's Tobias, even worse.

the more I look, it could have gone to al in the corner for three but he wasn't in the spot that has won us games (maybe thinking rb but too little time). Brown too for that matter? could have given tat 4 people with a clear pass to, 3 better shooters. Maybe they thought tat was going to take it? I dunno.

It's not that serious, it was WIDE OPEN AND A GOOD SHOT.

[rd26]

Eh? This wasn't open enough for ya?

Had to be a defensive breakdown, no way a team intentionally leaves Smart that open /sarcasm

Just once I wish this team would take what it wants instead of what the opponent gives us.

How many shots did Tucker take down the stretch?

They didn't intentionally leave Smart open. Tatum screens Smart's man to force a switch and get the ball in the wing against Maxey. That's how Celtics set up a lot of their half court sets. Tatum got baseline against Maxey to force the defense to collapse.

So the guy in a dead sprint running away from Smart and toward Tatum sn't doing that intentionally?

Thanks for the analysis, I must really suck at this watching basketball thing

[GoCeltics123]

Nonsense. The clip I posted earlier shows us doing exactly that with nearly identical Personel. Joe just sucks at his job

Comparing a scenario from 2018, when they called timeout on a Marcus Morris contested mid-range, is not in the same stratosphere as a wide-open 3 from Smart at the end. And I say this as someone who is not much of a believer in Smart shooting threes at the end of games.

Realistically, 99% of coaches are not drawing up a play in less than 2 seconds that would be better than a Smart wide-open look. I don't think Joe is a very good coach, and I'm telling you that in under 2 seconds, you are getting jack **** at a look there.

The sequence at the end of Second OT was like 200000000000x worse than the first one. Jaylen Brown helping off Harden was 10000000000000000000000000000000x times worse than this

Where are you getting less than 2 seconds from? He should’ve called timeout from the onset, advanced the ball and run a play to get a quality look at the basket.

There’s no point in discussing Brown helping off Harden, everyone knows it was dumb and the wrong play. If Joe does his effing job, it may not even come to that

Smart caught the ball with 2 seconds left. What I'm saying was that all that play had, if Tatum was going to pass out of a shot, then that's all that play had.

If your point is they should've called timeout from the beginning, I don't think that's true either because Joe's not Brad. If we'd call timeout in the regulation, then the play we would've run the same ISO for Tatum that most rookie coaches (especially ones lacking ability to push the right buttons in clutch time) and the defense could go zone and/or sub out their worst defenders. That doesn't give you any advantage at all, if anything it helps the defense gets set.

Tatum on the play has a lane and decided to pass to Smart. While the "right play" you want to see him score there.

In OT, they showed no urgency at all at the end and Joe stood there and didn't call a timeout when it was obvious they needed one, which was idiotic and dumb as hell. That's the one you should be focusing on

[BK_2020]

the more I look, it could have gone to al in the corner for three but he wasn't in the spot that has won us games (maybe thinking rb but too little time). Brown too for that matter? could have given tat 4 people with a clear pass to, all better shooters. Maybe they thought tat was going to take it? I dunno.

It's not that serious, it was WIDE OPEN AND A GOOD SHOT.

Al was in the dunker spot. No chance for Tatum to pass to him unless he can somehow put the ball through Embiid's body.
Jaylen was leaking in for an interior pass but Tucker was ready to pounce on the pass and there was no way he would've gotten a good shot off with Embiid waiting there.

[Shak_Celts]

the more I look, it could have gone to al in the corner for three but he wasn't in the spot that has won us games (maybe thinking rb but too little time). Brown too for that matter? could have given tat 4 people with a clear pass to, all better shooters. Maybe they thought tat was going to take it? I dunno.

It's not that serious, it was WIDE OPEN AND A GOOD SHOT.

Al was in the dunker spot. No chance for Tatum to pass to him unless he can somehow put the ball through Embiid's body.
Jaylen was leaking in for an interior pass but Tucker was ready to pounce on the pass and there was no way he would've gotten a good shot off with Embiid waiting there.

I need to see it again. It looks like both Al and JB could have stayed out to give him more options. this was the right play by tatum but i don't know if it had to be the only option if jb and al stayed out. Really looks like the same scenario al missed the 3 earlier.

you know what, again, it doesn't even matter, it was a good pass and look! joe isn't getting us a better look in 5 seconds.

could have dropped it for brown for the dunk and maybe a foul by embiid if he sorta recovered.

[exculpatory]

I would fire Bumblegum Bubblegum TONIGHT.

UTTERLY INCOMPETENT.

[BK_2020]

Comparing a scenario from 2018, when they called timeout on a Marcus Morris contested mid-range, is not in the same stratosphere as a wide-open 3 from Smart at the end. And I say this as someone who is not much of a believer in Smart shooting threes at the end of games.

Realistically, 99% of coaches are not drawing up a play in less than 2 seconds that would be better than a Smart wide-open look. I don't think Joe is a very good coach, and I'm telling you that in under 2 seconds, you are getting jack **** at a look there.

The sequence at the end of Second OT was like 200000000000x worse than the first one. Jaylen Brown helping off Harden was 10000000000000000000000000000000x times worse than this

Where are you getting less than 2 seconds from? He should’ve called timeout from the onset, advanced the ball and run a play to get a quality look at the basket.

There’s no point in discussing Brown helping off Harden, everyone knows it was dumb and the wrong play. If Joe does his effing job, it may not even come to that

Smart caught the ball with 2 seconds left. What I'm saying was that all that play had, if Tatum was going to pass out of a shot, then that's all that play had.

If your point is they should've called timeout from the beginning, I don't think that's true either because Joe's not Brad. If we'd call timeout in the regulation, then the play we would've run the same ISO for Tatum that most rookie coaches (especially ones lacking ability to push the right buttons in clutch time) and the defense could go zone and/or sub out their worst defenders. That doesn't give you any advantage at all, if anything it helps the defense gets set.

Tatum on the play has a lane and decided to pass to Smart. While the "right play" you want to see him score there.

In OT, they showed no urgency at all at the end and Joe stood there and didn't call a timeout when it was obvious they needed one, which was idiotic and dumb as hell. That's the one you should be focusing on

Tatum should've passed quickly to White for an open three or a swing to Smart for an open three. Full three seconds left, there was a good chance at scoring. Instead he tried to have a go at scoring at the rim then forced an awkward slow lob that didn't reach Smart in time. I don't think either Joe or Tatum is at fault, though, at least not for that final play. He did have a step on Maxey and if Tatum's pass is to his usual standard, Smart gets the shot off in time.

[Shak_Celts]

WE SHOULD HAVE WON THAT 1.

Oh well, I learned a new word, PUSILLANIMOUS (pew sound btw)!

[exculpatory]

WE SHOULD HAVE WON THAT 1.

Oh well, I learned a new word, PUSILLANIMOUS!

I knew that one 100 years ago for SATs.

Think stingy.

And Bubbles is not just randomly stingy.
He is a mother **** incompetent moron.

[Shak_Celts]

WE SHOULD HAVE WON THAT 1.

Oh well, I learned a new word, PUSILLANIMOUS!

I knew that one 100 years ago for SATs.

Think stingy.

And Bubbles is not just randomly stingy.
He is a mother **** incompetent moron.

Hehe I was calling him soft b/c the woman said it means what we use the p-word for, I mean, that's a word I could get behind, no bleeping!