No Cheesesteaks For Us! Game 4 Loss vs PHI 5/7 (Series tied 2-2)

[BK_2020]

Jaylen disappearing in the 4th and OT didn't help.

[TheMartian]

Eh? This wasn't open enough for ya?

Had to be a defensive breakdown, no way a team intentionally leaves Smart that open /sarcasm

Just once I wish this team would take what it wants instead of what the opponent gives us.

How many shots did Tucker take down the stretch?

They didn't intentionally leave Smart open. Tatum screens Smart's man to force a switch and get the ball in the wing against Maxey. That's how Celtics set up a lot of their half court sets. Tatum got baseline against Maxey to force the defense to collapse.

My question here is, why does it have to be Smart that the ball goes to in these situations? Clearly we can see Brogdon (who is a better 3pt shooter) also open.

In the OT as well, JT also had White at the top of the key wide open. So again, why should Smart be the one he passes it to when there was a better 3pt shooter also wide open?

I'm guessing it's the designed play, and if so, why is Smart the designated shooter instead of the better options?

[BK_2020]

Had to be a defensive breakdown, no way a team intentionally leaves Smart that open /sarcasm

Just once I wish this team would take what it wants instead of what the opponent gives us.

How many shots did Tucker take down the stretch?

They didn't intentionally leave Smart open. Tatum screens Smart's man to force a switch and get the ball in the wing against Maxey. That's how Celtics set up a lot of their half court sets. Tatum got baseline against Maxey to force the defense to collapse.

My question here is, why does it have to be Smart that the ball goes to in these situations? Clearly we can see Brogdon (who is a better 3pt shooter) also open.

In the OT as well, JT also had White at the top of the key wide open. So again, why should Smart be the one he passes it to when there was a better 3pt shooter also wide open?

I'm guessing it's the designed play, and if so, why is Smart the designated shooter instead of the better options?

I think Tatum is the first option on both plays. He gets Maxey on him and ideally Tatum can drive for a layup or a foul. When the Sixers double, Tatum has to read and react. I don't think the plays were designed to get Smart an open three.
In the 4th Q play, Harden was covering the passing lane to Brogdon so a pass there would've been forced over his head.
In the OT, I agree Tatum probably should've passed to White right away, who could either shoot, drive, or pass to Smart. Once tatum decided to drive, the pass back to White was not an option.

[TheMartian]

They didn't intentionally leave Smart open. Tatum screens Smart's man to force a switch and get the ball in the wing against Maxey. That's how Celtics set up a lot of their half court sets. Tatum got baseline against Maxey to force the defense to collapse.

My question here is, why does it have to be Smart that the ball goes to in these situations? Clearly we can see Brogdon (who is a better 3pt shooter) also open.

In the OT as well, JT also had White at the top of the key wide open. So again, why should Smart be the one he passes it to when there was a better 3pt shooter also wide open?

I'm guessing it's the designed play, and if so, why is Smart the designated shooter instead of the better options?

I think Tatum is the first option on both plays. He gets Maxey on him and ideally Tatum can drive for a layup or a foul. When the Sixers double, Tatum has to read and react. I don't think the plays were designed to get Smart an open three.
In the 4th Q play, Harden was covering the passing lane to Brogdon so a pass there would've been forced over his head.
In the OT, I agree Tatum probably should've passed to White right away, who could either shoot, drive, or pass to Smart. Once tatum decided to drive, the pass back to White was not an option.

Good points.

One thing I am curious about is why we rarely see a 2-man action between JT and JB in these situations. I can't seem to recall any one play since the 2 became teammates where JT passed to JB and vice-versa on a situation like this.

[Garbanzo]

We lost the match but won the battle
Sixers were extremely lucky in this one
Tatum played with maturity and poise even when nothing went his way in the beginning
Team played well, but just didn't have enough luck the whole way, with sixers hitting timely threes and Celtics players missing open shots and not gaining momentum
wish we could have pressured the ball from the start

Huge mistake by Mazzula at the last possession of the game
It was clear Philly runs a p&r between Harden and Embiid, so having the help coming from the strong side was a HUGE mistake

Hate losing, but Celtics played hard and the right way
On to the next!

[Tyakack]

Could you imagine this squad with an elite coach? Or even a really good one? I've always respected coaches but my respect for them grow more and more the more I watch joe.

[return2glory]

Btw Rob was great and Joe Hoe buried him on the bench.

I hate this **** coach.

32 minutes for Al horford and I believe only 12 for rob Williams.. Of course somebody's going to say rob is probably hurt which is not the case..

There is no excuse for rob to be playing as few minutes as he has..

How can you say Rob isn't hurt though? Dude's head used to be near rim level when he was dunking. Now he is all layups. The explosiveness is gone. Some games you can see glimpses of it, then others he looks like Blake going to the rim, just with longer arms.
Maybe he isn't hurt but he isn't the same player anymore, very little lift for one of the most explosiveness players in the league prior to these last few months.

[Triple7]

Lot of flak for Mazulla (justly so) but this is the same low iq bs Tatum Brown and Smart have been doing for years. How come two superstars and the worlds greatest role player can't figure out how to get an open fn shot on the final possession by now? and btw just because 3 pointers are gods gift to basketball these days, doesn't mean settling for a three in a one point game is a good look

Eh? This wasn't open enough for ya?

Tie game. This shot is stupid. I don’t care how open Smart is

That’s why smart is a liability to end games. If smart wasn’t inside, that could easily be white or brogdon. Though the sixers defense would most likeky leave marcus open, and double Tatum by design. Smart is a liability. Our offense is handicapped with him inside sadly!

[Triple7]

Could you imagine this squad with an elite coach? Or even a really good one? I've always respected coaches but my respect for them grow more and more the more I watch joe.

Damon would have been better for sure.

[Triple7]

Losing by 1pt, and not even got a shot off is unforgiveable. If this was a game 7, mazulla would have been fired on the spot. He is **** clueless and a moron. I think the players knows it. If we lose this series, Joe would be tuned out by the players, and he will be a reason players would want out.

[return2glory]

Could you imagine this squad with an elite coach? Or even a really good one? I've always respected coaches but my respect for them grow more and more the more I watch joe.

Yes, they would be about the same team, no closers. Look at coach Poop (aka coach Pop). He has lead his team to the lottery year after year since Duncan retired.

How good is Bill Belichick without Brady?

While great coaches can make a difference, ultimately it comes down to the great players that lead their teams to championships or a collective group of very good players in rare cases combined with real good coaching. It's a stars league, always has been. And when I mean stars, I'm talking about superstars who are good leaders and are also clutch. We don't have that on our team. Only way we win a title is with Brogdon, White, Smart and Al playing their best games and having a top 3 coach to make the little difference in a game with Tatum and Brown giving us their usual contributions.

Is there a great coach left in the NBA anymore other than maybe the Heat coach?

I actually agree with you in a way that it takes a really good to great coach, however it has to be combined with a few stars.
If Erik Spoelstra was coaching this team, I'm confident we would be up 3-1 or maybe a sweep already.
But we don't have Erik Spoelstra, we have a rookie coach that was hired by Brad in a last minute situation weeks before the start of the season.

Joe has been up and down in the playoffs but he wasn't the one to leave Harden wide open for 3 with the game on the line.

[Green89]

Lot of flak for Mazulla (justly so) but this is the same low iq bs Tatum Brown and Smart have been doing for years. How come two superstars and the worlds greatest role player can't figure out how to get an open fn shot on the final possession by now? and btw just because 3 pointers are gods gift to basketball these days, doesn't mean settling for a three in a one point game is a good look

Eh? This wasn't open enough for ya?

1. Smart is a career 32% regular season 3pt shooter and only 33% in the playoffs. A 32/33% FG% attempt in a game we needed 1 point is one of the lowest percentage shots you can take, open or not.

2. Smart shouldn't have been on the floor on a last second offensive play over Brogdon or White. I wouldn't have wanted either of them to take a 3 in that situation either, but both would have had better odds of making that shot.

[The Corey's]

If Tatum didn't **** suck off the ball then perhaps maybe he wouldn't dribble him self into a double team in these situations.

[Triple7]

If Tatum didn't **** suck off the ball then perhaps maybe he wouldn't dribble him self into a double team in these situations.

Exactly! His handles are just average, and he gathers the ball too early on the dribble, thus limiting his options. He doesn’t have that ability to just stop and pull up a mid range jumper. Joe doesn’t even design plays to make it easier for JT to score, like give him the ball on the post for an easy turn around or fade aways. Instead, he is forced to try to dribble and create on his own. All he does is chuck up 3’s or try to dribble and drive to the basket.

[The Corey's]

If Tatum didn't **** suck off the ball then perhaps maybe he wouldn't dribble him self into a double team in these situations.

Exactly! His handles are just average, and he gathers the ball too early on the dribble, thus limiting his options. He doesn’t have that ability to just stop and pull up a mid range jumper. Joe doesn’t even design plays to make it easier for JT to score, like give him the ball on the post for an easy turn around or fade aways. Instead, he is forced to try to dribble and create on his own. All he does is chuck up 3’s or try to dribble and drive to the basket.

Game 1 and especially this game really shows that Joe is out of his depth.

There isn't a person here who can tell us what exactly it is that Joe is bringing to the table.

Meanwhile he's worried about the media writing about his jiu jitsu lessons like anyone needs a reason to question his coaching abilities beyond what he's already showing on the court.

I can't remember the last time I was triggered this badly by a game.

[Green89]

We inbounded the ball at 16 seconds left in OT. Then Marcus slowly dribbles up high and only passes to Tatum with 7 seconds left. That's the most embarrassing "down by 1" playoff possession I've ever seen.

Scal was going absolutely berserk in the post game, even getting heated with the replay people, lol, and he's completely right. You have to go fast and play for two possessions there. That was an abomination of a game ending possession. Complete inexperience from the HC, and then the players, too. Not one of them recognized the urgency in getting something early. Just low BBIQ all around. I think Scal was calling out both coach and the players, too.

[The Corey's]

We inbounded the ball at 16 seconds left in OT. Then Marcus slowly dribbles up high and only passes to Tatum with 7 seconds left. That's the most embarrassing "down by 1" playoff possession I've ever seen.

Scal was going absolutely berserk in the post game, even getting heated with the replay people, lol, and he's completely right. You have to go fast and play for two possessions there. That was an abomination of a game ending possession. Complete inexperience from the HC, and then the players, too. Not one of them recognized the urgency in getting something early. Just low BBIQ all around. I think Scal was calling out both coach and the players, too.

I was too heated to watch a single second of any of them but to say it would shock me for Scal to go against company line like they would be an understatement.

If scal lost his **** then you know it's bad.

[Green89]

Smart missed 2 threes in regulation's final 88 seconds, and then held the ball for 9 seconds on the last play in OT when we needed to go quick. It's going to be very, very tough to win Banner 18 unless Joe realizes Marcus cannot be on the floor to end games on the offensive side.

[seiffert82]

I don’t get the complaints about Mazulla here. Tatum calmly created two open threes for the last shot. Absolutely textbook. We were either an inch or a half a second away from the win. I don’t think a time out, letting them sub out Harden, improves on that.

Agreed.

Poor shooting in the first half got us in this predicament. Fantastic defence in the last quarter nearly got us out of it.

Smart probably didn't have to shoot from 3 in regular time to win it, but the shot he was given was wide open.

Then in OT we were a fraction of a second off winning it.

Letting Harden open for 3 at the end was disappointing, but our defence otherwise since the 3rd quarter was largely elite.

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[Triple7]

Smart missed 2 threes in regulation's final 88 seconds, and then held the ball for 9 seconds on the last play in OT when we needed to go quick. It's going to be very, very tough to win Banner 18 unless Joe realizes Marcus cannot be on the floor to end games on the offensive side.

I’d like to hear all the excuses from fan boys, on why marcus wasted all that time crossing half court and setting up a play. But but but marcus does winning plays lol.
There is a reason why we had IT, Kyrie and Kemba. Those guys can really handle the ball and we got them because we needed a point guard. Smart should have always been a 6th man. An energizer bunny from the bench. Rozier would have been better