Bronny James will take his talents to USC next season

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Where do you think Bronny's gonna be drafted?

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Re: Bronny James will take his talents to USC next season 

Post#81 » by Duke4life831 » Sun May 7, 2023 6:27 pm

JasonStern wrote:I understand one-and-done players wanting to stay in SoCal, but I'll never understand USC over UCLA in basketball. Football, absolutely. But basketball? I get playing with a weaker roster means more chance for playing time, but that comes at the expense of team success and player development.

"Oh, you're just a bitter Duck fan!" <- No, I'm really not. College is a different game. The University of Nike is in the top 3 or top 5 for all players. The only time the basketball team has success is when they have multiple 2-3+ year players combined with a couple high profile veteran transfers. One-and-done high school recruits kind of suck because you don't get to follow their development. And just when they start to click, they're gone. Give me three years of Dillon Brooks over one year of "#2 prospect Bol Bol" anytime.


To be fair, UCLA really hasnt been UCLA for quite sometime. Since 2008, the 2021 UCLA team is the only team to make it to the Elite 8 (they did make it to the Final 4). Hell USC made the Elite 8 that year as well. Their last Pac12 tournament championship was back in 2014.

So the whole going to USC to play for a weaker roster thing doesnt really make much sense anymore, since its not like UCLA is out there with these super strong rosters anymore. USC has the better roster than UCLA as of right now going into next year. UCLA really hasnt been living up to their blue blood level the last decade.
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Re: Bronny James will take his talents to USC next season 

Post#82 » by JasonStern » Sun May 7, 2023 6:40 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:
JasonStern wrote:I understand one-and-done players wanting to stay in SoCal, but I'll never understand USC over UCLA in basketball. Football, absolutely. But basketball? I get playing with a weaker roster means more chance for playing time, but that comes at the expense of team success and player development.

"Oh, you're just a bitter Duck fan!" <- No, I'm really not. College is a different game. The University of Nike is in the top 3 or top 5 for all players. The only time the basketball team has success is when they have multiple 2-3+ year players combined with a couple high profile veteran transfers. One-and-done high school recruits kind of suck because you don't get to follow their development. And just when they start to click, they're gone. Give me three years of Dillon Brooks over one year of "#2 prospect Bol Bol" anytime.


To be fair, UCLA really hasnt been UCLA for quite sometime. Since 2008, the 2021 UCLA team is the only team to make it to the Elite 8 (they did make it to the Final 4). Hell USC made the Elite 8 that year as well. Their last Pac12 tournament championship was back in 2014.

So the whole going to USC to play for a weaker roster thing doesnt really make much sense anymore, since its not like UCLA is out there with these super strong rosters anymore. USC has the better roster than UCLA as of right now going into next year. UCLA really hasnt been living up to their blue blood level the last decade.


UCLA Pac-12 record the last 5 years:
1st
2nd
4th
2nd
3rd (tie)

USC Pac-12 record the last 5 years:
3rd
3rd
2nd
3rd (tie)
8th

You're right that the gap has significantly closed. But as a Duck fan, I fear UCLA more than USC every time we play.

USC does have a nicer campus, better education (which is HUGE for a one-and-done player), there's more prestige for being a USC alumni than a UCLA alumni in the situation he's a bust or gets injured, the women aren't hotter but do tend to have better family backgrounds. For reasons outside of basketball purely, I get it. And then if basketball was the main thing, why attend college at all versus a year of professional g-league or Euro/Aussie ball?
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Re: Bronny James will take his talents to USC next season 

Post#83 » by JujitsuFlip » Sun May 7, 2023 6:53 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:
KodiakBear wrote:
Shock Defeat wrote:Lebron will never pass up the opportunity to play with his son. Whichever team gets Bronny is guaranteed to get Lebron


True, but is he worth drafting just to get a 22nd year 40 year old Lebron? Lebron is still good, but he gets injured a lot more now. Since he got to the Lakers other than their championship year he has missed 27, 27, 26 and 28 games. That will likely only get worse the next few years. I'm not taking Bronny just to get Lebron unless I have a championship caliber team and Lebron isn't asking for a big salary.


I think the case for this wont be about on court ability. It will be more about marketability. Say youre a team that struggles to sell out games and get zero nationally televised games. Your season tickets sales are going to go through the roof and you know ESPN are goign to want to get double digit games of LeBron and his son playing together.
This.

I remember reports from business owners in 2014 when LeBron returned, talking about how business was booming after 4 years of darkness. LeBron essentially singlehandedly boosted the CLE economy, any franchise/market should want that.

The only first round pick the Cavs hung onto was 2024, probably not by accident. The third coming of LeBron via drafting LeBron James Jr would bring so much buzz.
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Re: Bronny James will take his talents to USC next season 

Post#84 » by Duke4life831 » Sun May 7, 2023 7:01 pm

JasonStern wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:
JasonStern wrote:I understand one-and-done players wanting to stay in SoCal, but I'll never understand USC over UCLA in basketball. Football, absolutely. But basketball? I get playing with a weaker roster means more chance for playing time, but that comes at the expense of team success and player development.

"Oh, you're just a bitter Duck fan!" <- No, I'm really not. College is a different game. The University of Nike is in the top 3 or top 5 for all players. The only time the basketball team has success is when they have multiple 2-3+ year players combined with a couple high profile veteran transfers. One-and-done high school recruits kind of suck because you don't get to follow their development. And just when they start to click, they're gone. Give me three years of Dillon Brooks over one year of "#2 prospect Bol Bol" anytime.


To be fair, UCLA really hasnt been UCLA for quite sometime. Since 2008, the 2021 UCLA team is the only team to make it to the Elite 8 (they did make it to the Final 4). Hell USC made the Elite 8 that year as well. Their last Pac12 tournament championship was back in 2014.

So the whole going to USC to play for a weaker roster thing doesnt really make much sense anymore, since its not like UCLA is out there with these super strong rosters anymore. USC has the better roster than UCLA as of right now going into next year. UCLA really hasnt been living up to their blue blood level the last decade.


UCLA Pac-12 record the last 5 years:
1st
2nd
4th
2nd
3rd (tie)

USC Pac-12 record the last 5 years:
3rd
3rd
2nd
3rd (tie)
8th

You're right that the gap has significantly closed. But as a Duck fan, I fear UCLA more than USC every time we play.

USC does have a nicer campus, better education (which is HUGE for a one-and-done player), there's more prestige for being a USC alumni than a UCLA alumni in the situation he's a bust or gets injured, the women aren't hotter but do tend to have better family backgrounds. For reasons outside of basketball purely, I get it. And then if basketball was the main thing, why attend college at all versus a year of professional g-league or Euro/Aussie ball?


Well playing 1 year of college definitely doesnt hurt anyone's draft stock, and he's been getting the top level skill trainers and stuff for quite sometime now, so its not like he needs the year of G League to get used to the pro experience. And we can throw any financial thing out the window as well because he himself is already making millions of dollars a year.

So I dont know, spending 1 year as a rich and famous 19 year old while playing basketball for one of the SoCal colleges sounds like a pretty damn amazing way to spend being a 19 year old. When it comes to picking between USC and UCLA, who knows. It could be as simple as he just liked Enfield's pitch better over Cronin's. Maybe he thought USC was going to be the better team with Collier going there and Ellis returning. Or who knows, maybe Klutch just has better ties with USC than UCLA at the moment and we could be talking about the difference of making 1-2 mil next year vs making 6-8 mil.

Again I just think we are at the point where there really just isnt some big time gap between UCLA and USC when it comes to basketball, where making a choice to go to USC is all that shocking.
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Re: Bronny James will take his talents to USC next season 

Post#85 » by Duke4life831 » Sun May 7, 2023 7:10 pm

JujitsuFlip wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:
KodiakBear wrote:
True, but is he worth drafting just to get a 22nd year 40 year old Lebron? Lebron is still good, but he gets injured a lot more now. Since he got to the Lakers other than their championship year he has missed 27, 27, 26 and 28 games. That will likely only get worse the next few years. I'm not taking Bronny just to get Lebron unless I have a championship caliber team and Lebron isn't asking for a big salary.


I think the case for this wont be about on court ability. It will be more about marketability. Say youre a team that struggles to sell out games and get zero nationally televised games. Your season tickets sales are going to go through the roof and you know ESPN are goign to want to get double digit games of LeBron and his son playing together.
This.

I remember reports from business owners in 2014 when LeBron returned, talking about how business was booming after 4 years of darkness. LeBron essentially singlehandedly boosted the CLE economy, any franchise/market should want that.

The only first round pick the Cavs hung onto was 2024, probably not by accident. The third coming of LeBron via drafting LeBron James Jr would bring so much buzz.


And to add onto this as well. This class at the moment is no doubt viewed as a very weak class. 247 just released their final rankings, they only had 15 5 star players in this class, 247 usually has 25+ 5 stars in each class.

So ya say youre chilling with the like the 12th pick in the draft. It was already a really weak class but any guys that you can make a case for being a legit star for your team is gone. Youve been struggling to sell out games and only getting 1 non NBATV nationally televised game a year. Do you draft the junior or senior with a low ceiling but high floor, or do you reach and grab Bronny and know there is a great chance at minimum for the next year or 2 youre going to get a huge financial boost?

I also want to be clear, Im one that has been vocal about not thinking Bronny is a OAD talent. But I can easily see this going down late lotto. And from a strictly business view point, I cant argue against it.
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Re: Bronny James will take his talents to USC next season 

Post#86 » by JasonStern » Sun May 7, 2023 7:14 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:Well playing 1 year of college definitely doesnt hurt anyone's draft stock, and he's been getting the top level skill trainers and stuff for quite sometime now, so its not like he needs the year of G League to get used to the pro experience. And we can throw any financial thing out the window as well because he himself is already making millions of dollars a year.


It was never a question of draft stock taking a hit or needing the money. But you take someone competitive like Kobe, and if he couldn't have been drafted out of high school, he would have played in Italy's league to get the professional development and keep himself focused 100% on basketball instead of fluff classes to maintain academic eligibility. The whole Mamba Mentality thing.

Not me, though. Give me SoCal girls in sundresses. Then watch my draft stock drop as I get benched for failing basket weaving 101. :lol:

I get that you're a USC fan (at least as far as Pac-12 teams go), and USC is projected to win the conference this year. But watch out for Oregon. They're sneaky scary good. Until they have to make a free throw. Or a jump shot. Then it's time to see what else is on TV. :roll:
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Post#87 » by Duke4life831 » Sun May 7, 2023 7:25 pm

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Duke4life831 wrote:Well playing 1 year of college definitely doesnt hurt anyone's draft stock, and he's been getting the top level skill trainers and stuff for quite sometime now, so its not like he needs the year of G League to get used to the pro experience. And we can throw any financial thing out the window as well because he himself is already making millions of dollars a year.


It was never a question of draft stock taking a hit or needing the money. But you take someone competitive like Kobe, and if he couldn't have been drafted out of high school, he would have played in Italy's league to get the professional development and keep himself focused 100% on basketball instead of fluff classes to maintain academic eligibility.

Not me, though. Give me SoCal girls in sundresses. Then watch my draft stock drop as I get benched for failing basket weaving 101. :lol:

I get that you're a USC fan (at least as far as Pac-12 teams go), and USC is projected to win the conference this year. But watch out for Oregon this year. They're sneaky scary good. Until they have to make a free throw. Or a jump shot. Then it's time to see what else is on TV. :roll:


Meh but many super competitive guys chose the college route over the G League route over the last few years. I dont think choosing the college route has any sign on how competitive someone is.

To be clear Im not a USC basketball fan (even for Pac 12 standards). If I were to root for a Pac 12 school it would be UCLA. I grew up in Cali and UCLA's run of 3 straight Final 4s all happened when I was in high school. That was my favorite team to watch outside of Duke.

Im just saying in the last decade, there really has been nothing separating UCLA from the rest of the Pac 12. These dudes choosing colleges right now were like 2-3 years old when UCLA went to 3 straight Final 4s. They dont remember that era.
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Re: Bronny James will take his talents to USC next season 

Post#88 » by clyde21 » Sun May 7, 2023 7:29 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:
JasonStern wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:
To be fair, UCLA really hasnt been UCLA for quite sometime. Since 2008, the 2021 UCLA team is the only team to make it to the Elite 8 (they did make it to the Final 4). Hell USC made the Elite 8 that year as well. Their last Pac12 tournament championship was back in 2014.

So the whole going to USC to play for a weaker roster thing doesnt really make much sense anymore, since its not like UCLA is out there with these super strong rosters anymore. USC has the better roster than UCLA as of right now going into next year. UCLA really hasnt been living up to their blue blood level the last decade.


UCLA Pac-12 record the last 5 years:
1st
2nd
4th
2nd
3rd (tie)

USC Pac-12 record the last 5 years:
3rd
3rd
2nd
3rd (tie)
8th

You're right that the gap has significantly closed. But as a Duck fan, I fear UCLA more than USC every time we play.

USC does have a nicer campus, better education (which is HUGE for a one-and-done player), there's more prestige for being a USC alumni than a UCLA alumni in the situation he's a bust or gets injured, the women aren't hotter but do tend to have better family backgrounds. For reasons outside of basketball purely, I get it. And then if basketball was the main thing, why attend college at all versus a year of professional g-league or Euro/Aussie ball?


Well playing 1 year of college definitely doesnt hurt anyone's draft stock, and he's been getting the top level skill trainers and stuff for quite sometime now, so its not like he needs the year of G League to get used to the pro experience. And we can throw any financial thing out the window as well because he himself is already making millions of dollars a year.

So I dont know, spending 1 year as a rich and famous 19 year old while playing basketball for one of the SoCal colleges sounds like a pretty damn amazing way to spend being a 19 year old. When it comes to picking between USC and UCLA, who knows. It could be as simple as he just liked Enfield's pitch better over Cronin's. Maybe he thought USC was going to be the better team with Collier going there and Ellis returning. Or who knows, maybe Klutch just has better ties with USC than UCLA at the moment and we could be talking about the difference of making 1-2 mil next year vs making 6-8 mil.

Again I just think we are at the point where there really just isnt some big time gap between UCLA and USC when it comes to basketball, where making a choice to go to USC is all that shocking.


i don't even know what UCLA's team is gonna look like next year, they lose Bailey, Jaquez and Clark to the draft, we'll see what happens with Bona but probably him too, Singleton was a 5th year senior so he's gone, and their highest ranked prospect coming in is #38 Fibleuil who's a french international, and he could be a Canka and not even play at all his first year.
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Post#89 » by JasonStern » Sun May 7, 2023 7:33 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:Meh but many super competitive guys chose the college route over the G League route over the last few years. I dont think choosing the college route has any sign on how competitive someone is.


And the NIL changes REALLY helped with that. The NBA messed up in the past with making G-league players have to be draft eligible. The whole point of the one year draft delay was to protect teams from themselves. Meanwhile, the whole point of the G-league was player development. So have a one-year gap where prospects can get paid and evaluated in a system controlled by the league.

But now that the NCAA can't make college athletes be unpaid labor... Yeah. UCLA? USC? Both probably better options than the Fort Wayne Mad Ants. Especially when we go back to the SoCal girls in sundresses part.
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Post#90 » by Duke4life831 » Sun May 7, 2023 7:41 pm

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Duke4life831 wrote:Meh but many super competitive guys chose the college route over the G League route over the last few years. I dont think choosing the college route has any sign on how competitive someone is.


And the NIL changes REALLY helped with that. The NBA messed up in the past with making G-league players have to be draft eligible. The whole point of the one year draft delay was to protect teams from themselves. Meanwhile, the whole point of the G-league was player development. So have a one-year gap where prospects can get paid and evaluated in a system controlled by the league.

But now that the NCAA can't make college athletes be unpaid labor... Yeah. UCLA? USC? Both probably better options than the Fort Wayne Mad Ants. Especially when we go back to the SoCal girls in sundresses part.


To be fair, this was never a thing. Back in 09, Latavious Williams was a top 20 recruit but didnt have the grades to go to any college and instead of going over seas, played a year in the G League (D League at the time). He was the first G League OAD player. With the addition of the G League Ignite team, they didnt change the age limits. All they did was making the G League a more financially desirable choice. Latavious Williams made something like 20k his one year in the G League and that is why no one ever went that route. G League Ignite came around and that whole thing was, if you were an elite high school prospect, come play in the G League and make 500k.

And ya the change in the NIL rules really helped that from really eroding the talent choosing to go the college route. Because with the big time schools, these guys are making 7 figures their 1 year in college now.
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Re: Bronny James will take his talents to USC next season 

Post#91 » by JasonStern » Sun May 7, 2023 7:57 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:
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Duke4life831 wrote:Meh but many super competitive guys chose the college route over the G League route over the last few years. I dont think choosing the college route has any sign on how competitive someone is.


And the NIL changes REALLY helped with that. The NBA messed up in the past with making G-league players have to be draft eligible. The whole point of the one year draft delay was to protect teams from themselves. Meanwhile, the whole point of the G-league was player development. So have a one-year gap where prospects can get paid and evaluated in a system controlled by the league.

But now that the NCAA can't make college athletes be unpaid labor... Yeah. UCLA? USC? Both probably better options than the Fort Wayne Mad Ants. Especially when we go back to the SoCal girls in sundresses part.


To be fair, this was never a thing. Back in 09, Latavious Williams was a top 20 recruit but didnt have the grades to go to any college and instead of going over seas, played a year in the G League (D League at the time). He was the first G League OAD player. With the addition of the G League Ignite team, they didnt change the age limits. All they did was making the G League a more financially desirable choice. Latavious Williams made something like 20k his one year in the G League and that is why no one ever went that route. G League Ignite came around and that whole thing was, if you were an elite high school prospect, come play in the G League and make 500k.


Thank you for the correction. But even with that, it just proves how questionable/mismanaged the G-league really is/was from a business standpoint. Imagine making $20k/year trying to prove yourself while some end of the bench scrub with an NBA contract was making $470k+. But if you offer high school graduate prospects $500k, you'd have a far more desirable product. You'd be able to poach the best talent from the NCAA. The games would be far more watchable. You'd have better scouting and analytic information for when they do enter the league, setting teams better up for the future. Etc., etc.

But that ship has sailed now that a donor can simply offer him $1M for his Bronny Brownies start-up if he attends USC. Pro player. You get yours. Just question the business decisions behind some of these rules.
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Post#92 » by nuttybuddy009 » Sun May 7, 2023 8:05 pm

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Fixed that for you.


His dad is a billionaire. Bronny himself is already a millionaire.


The kid will inherit a multi billion dollar empire. For all intensive purposes hes a billionaire


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Post#93 » by Memories » Sun May 7, 2023 8:17 pm

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Memories wrote:He’s actually already labeled as a lottery talent due to a few factors:

- This draft class in particular, is VERY weak.
- Bronny is currently labeled as a “Marcus Smart” type of talent. Which means very good 3 and D role player at the point guard position.
- 3 and D elite role players, are VERY valuable in the NBA. Especially one as a point guard? You are definitely gonna get looked at no matter who you are.


You know they say he’s 3D cause off his off ball defense not on ball defense which is absurd dude ain’t a center why would his off ball defense matter and be the reason he’s drafted


Look at the Warriors team and tell me again that off ball defense doesn’t matter.
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Post#94 » by TheGOATWill » Sun May 7, 2023 8:30 pm

welcome to national television USC mens basketball.
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Post#95 » by Michael Jordan » Sun May 7, 2023 8:32 pm

On its own playing at USC is a great accomplishment but because he's Lebron's son his critics are gonna call him a bust until he wins a title.
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Post#96 » by Jkam31 » Sun May 7, 2023 9:00 pm

Memories wrote:
Jkam31 wrote:
Memories wrote:He’s actually already labeled as a lottery talent due to a few factors:

- This draft class in particular, is VERY weak.
- Bronny is currently labeled as a “Marcus Smart” type of talent. Which means very good 3 and D role player at the point guard position.
- 3 and D elite role players, are VERY valuable in the NBA. Especially one as a point guard? You are definitely gonna get looked at no matter who you are.


You know they say he’s 3D cause off his off ball defense not on ball defense which is absurd dude ain’t a center why would his off ball defense matter and be the reason he’s drafted


Look at the Warriors team and tell me again that off ball defense doesn’t matter.


Name a non center who got drafted for off ball defense
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Post#97 » by Pelly24 » Mon May 8, 2023 4:42 am

Duke4life831 wrote:He's not Marcus Smart and he's not Jrue Holiday. Those guys were elite prospects, they were more skilled on offense and on a different tier defensively.

Here is the thing, there are a lot of Bronny James every year coming out of high school. Smaller CG who cant run point and are good defensive players arent all that rare coming out of high school.

He has been brought up earlier in this thread, DeAnthony Melton is pretty much the best case scenario for Bronny in the pros (unless he has a huge growth spurt). Its pretty damn rare for a guy to go from a complete non dynamic on ball guy, to becoming a dynamic on ball player by the time he is playing in college. A dynamic handle is not something we see guys able to acquire later on like a jump shot. And he's also not Klay Thompson out there when it comes to his off ball movement and shooting ability.

He's not known to be a knockdown shooter, he is known to be a solid catch and shoot guy. So ya if you put that all together and things workout, what kind of player does that sound like? It sounds like DeAnthony Melton. But there is a very long line of guys with that same foundation that you never really hear of again once they make it to college. Now ya I do think Bronny will get the benefit of the doubt that lots of these CGs that get forgotten dont ever get. But ya I think he has the potential to be a solid rotation player like DeAnthony Melton. But if his last name wasnt James, he would be viewed like all the other small CG guards and we wouldnt be projecting him to be a OAD 1st rounder right now.


I think all of this is correct. It feels like he's a player who would've gone under the radar and then surprise people once he becomes a decent NBA player, then ll the sudden he's a starter somewhere at age 23 and you're like, "How was he only a three-star recruit" or whatever. I think his impact and ability is high four-star, but it's in a way that usually gets glossed over (that's how you end up with a Kawhi at SDSU, etc.). But with his name, people squinted real hard, never wrote him off, and his intangibles and ability (high IQ and solid physical tools) enabled him to make an impact at the right places and right times and with his name, get the benefit of the doubt.

I think he would be a *totally* different player if he had even average high major blow by ability and wiggle, he'd be a definite future starter in my eyes. It would open up his court vision and instincts (which are strong) and he's actually got the whole cache of fadeaway, pull-up threes, two-dribble pull-ups, floaters with either hand, etc. to have a good scoring package. He just needs to get to a decent level with shot creation. As is I'm still sure he'll find a way in the NBA.
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Post#98 » by jazzmailman » Mon May 8, 2023 10:10 am

I follow UCLA basketball pretty closely and have subscription to BRO (Bruin Report Online):

1st- the UCLA vs USC debate

This is a non-debate, UCLA didn't offer nor recruit Bronny. The reason being UCLA head coach Mick Cronin is a hard nose old school coach who believes playing time should be earned and not given didn't want to deal with the circus that comes with Bronny (not Bronny himself, but LeBron). This is the also why UCLA lost #1 PG of this class Isaiah Collier to USC. There were many people whispering and telling Collier that UCLA will play Dylan Andrews (who came from a UCLA pipeline AAU team) more. Collier wanted assurance with PT, Cronin didn't promise, USC offered a huge NIL, and Collier committed to SC along with #46 ranked
Arrinten Page as a package deal.

As for the UCLA demise recently, Cronin recruited and missed many recruits this cycle - due to many reasons, his insistence on not promising PT (this is guaranteed to lose some prospects in the new NIL world), absolutely drill his players (in a good way), grades, and of course NIL mishaps. As a result, UCLA changed its approach to focus on international recruiting instead - Ilane Fibleuil recently committed. He is better than his composite ranking suggested (https://247sports.com/player/ilane-fibleuil-46139121/), many other websites simply hasn't seen him to give him a valuation. The 247 ranking (38) is a better evaluation on how he is as a player. I think he's a future NBA player. Aday Mara from Spain, will most likely join next year's UCLA team. He is currently listed as the #1 prospect in the 2024 class (https://nbadraftroom.com/p/2024-nba-mock-draft/). I do wish UCLA made an effort to try and recruit Bronny though, because i feel like the exposure and 1 year of sacrifice is worth it for the future NIL deals alone.

2nd - the Bronny recruitment

Bronny has been a silent USC commit for a while, that's why you haven't heard too much about his recruitment. USC head coach Andy Enfield, while not a great X&O coach, is an excellent recruiter. For example, he recruited the Mobley brothers to USC by hiring their dad as an assistant coach at USC. Now in the NIL world, USC as a rich private institution, can provide more to Enfield to recruit. USC, however, is still a way bigger football school than basketball. Anyway, Enfield has promised Bronny (and his family) a starting position, along with Isaiah Collier (rightfully so). The return of Boogie Ellis to USC for his 5th year did complicate things, because he keeps the starting spot that was promised to Bronny, that's why USC eventually drove out Tre White (potential NBA pick) to Louisville, to open another starting position. Bronny did not choose USC because of money, he can make that through NIL easy. He has 7.1 million followers on IG. Staying in LA will do wonders for his NIL value.

Here is an estimate of his NIL value: https://www.on3.com/nil/rankings/player/nil-100/

3rd - Bronny's fit at USC.

Bronny is an excellent fit at USC. Their next year's lead guards are projected to be Isaiah Collier and Boogie Ellis. Collier is a lead pass first guard while Boogie (Pac-12 1st team) is more of a combo scoring guard. Bronny can fill the 3rd role has a 3 and D prospect. His value won't be hurt too much even if he sucked, because all scouts know he's not a lead guard. If anything, playing the 3 and D aspect well will definitely boost his draft stock. The only issue is that USC will now play 3 short guards starting together. However, that probably doesn't matter because USC fanbase does not care about basketball, so the exposure is worth the risk and will absolutely help future USC recruiting. USC basketball, similar to UCLA football, just needs to be "good enough" for the fanbase to accept it.

4th - Bronny as a prospect.

A lot of people addressed on this already, Bronny is not a lead guard but more of a 3 and D guard. Scouts are impressed with how hard he plays as a privileged 2nd generation NBA player, let alone LBJ's son. He is nowhere near Lonzo Ball, Jrue Holiday, nor Marcus Smart in terms of talent level. De'Anthony Melton (another USC alum), like what many others mentioned, is an excellent comparison. There is a chance that Bronny ends up better than Melton, as Bronny has much much higher basketball IQ than Melton. However, Melton is also a lot smoother athletically and better defensively. Melton did carve out a role in the NBA as a 6th man and spot starter, and I feel like that's Bronny does have that potential as well. The worry is that compare to others at the same age, Bronny does seem physically filled out already, which is not surprising given he probably has the same access to LeBron's nutrition team, and that does possibly mean his potential is a little less than his peers. While ESPN's Jonathan Givony did LeBron a favor by ranking Bronny higher than expected in his 2024 mock draft, i do feel like Bronny is a legit NBA prospect. A lot of people argue that if his last name isn't James, he won't be any different than any other 6"2 small forward 3 and D guard. While that's absolutely 100% true, but his last name is JAMES and he does have 7.1 million followers and we will keep talking about him, that does put him on the map and help him as a draft prospect. After all, does anyone care whether if a random DeAnthony Melton clone gets drafted or not? But people will care and notice where Bronny gets drafted. And part of being drafted is also how much exposure you have. Bronny is absolutely a one and done regardless of what happens, he is only going to college because NBA rules dictates it.
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Re: Bronny James will take his talents to USC next season 

Post#99 » by Pointgod » Mon May 8, 2023 10:54 am

nuttybuddy009 wrote:
Pointgod wrote:
KodiakBear wrote:
His dad is a billionaire. Bronny himself is already a millionaire.


The kid will inherit a multi billion dollar empire. For all intensive purposes hes a billionaire


“All intents and purposes” lol



Lol thanks for correcting that.
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Re: Bronny James will take his talents to USC next season 

Post#100 » by Mind_Odyssey » Mon May 8, 2023 2:14 pm

KodiakBear wrote:Shows how bad Ohio State basketball is right now they didn't land him.


You’re right and Holtmann needs fired.

However, I don’t expect any of the James family to ever live in Ohio again unless the Cavs draft Bronny. They all want that LA lifestyle.
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