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Re: PLAYOFFS: Rnd 2, Gm 5 – Sixers (2) @ Celtics (2) – 7:30PM, Tues, May 9, 2023 

Post#81 » by tfribs45 » Tue May 9, 2023 1:24 pm

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I’ve posted this a few times the last day or two, and it just leads to “well he shouldn’t be leading the team in clutch shots!!”.

Him and Tatum have 38 points on 20 shots in the clutch this postseason.


Smahht takes all the blame LMFAO, how about JT lay it in or go up strong instead of kicking it out with a second left..... Time to put up or shut up now! We know the dawgs are going to show up when the lights are bright. Lets see who disappears in fear.....
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I’ve posted this a few times the last day or two, and it just leads to “well he shouldn’t be leading the team in clutch shots!!”.

Him and Tatum have 38 points on 20 shots in the clutch this postseason.


Smahht takes all the blame LMFAO, how about JT lay it in or go up strong instead of kicking it out with a second left..... Time to put up or shut up now! We know the dawgs are going to show up when the lights are bright. Lets see who disappears in fear.....

It's not Smart blame, it's the coaches fault. Smart shouldn't be in the position in my opinion.
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Re: PLAYOFFS: Rnd 2, Gm 5 – Sixers (2) @ Celtics (2) – 7:30PM, Tues, May 9, 2023 

Post#83 » by Feed Your Head » Tue May 9, 2023 1:35 pm

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I’ve posted this a few times the last day or two, and it just leads to “well he shouldn’t be leading the team in clutch shots!!”.

Him and Tatum have 38 points on 20 shots in the clutch this postseason.


Smahht takes all the blame LMFAO, how about JT lay it in or go up strong instead of kicking it out with a second left..... Time to put up or shut up now! We know the dawgs are going to show up when the lights are bright. Lets see who disappears in fear.....


Tatum, in 27 crunch time minutes these playoffs.

17/5/3 on 5-9 shooting, 70% TS, 0 turnovers.

This series alone, he put us ahead at the line with 25 seconds or so left in game 1. Then Harden hit a ridiculous shot to win it for them. Game 3, Tatum hit multiple daggers to help put the game away. Game 4, Tatum hit a three to put us ahead with 38 seconds left. Then Harden, once again hit a huge shot.

Blaming other players when defending a player is weird lol.
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Post#84 » by Celts17Pride » Tue May 9, 2023 1:41 pm

Feed Your Head wrote:
tfribs45 wrote:
Feed Your Head wrote:
I’ve posted this a few times the last day or two, and it just leads to “well he shouldn’t be leading the team in clutch shots!!”.

Him and Tatum have 38 points on 20 shots in the clutch this postseason.


Smahht takes all the blame LMFAO, how about JT lay it in or go up strong instead of kicking it out with a second left..... Time to put up or shut up now! We know the dawgs are going to show up when the lights are bright. Lets see who disappears in fear.....


Tatum, in 27 crunch time minutes these playoffs.

17/5/3 on 5-9 shooting, 70% TS, 0 turnovers.

This series alone, he put us ahead at the line with 25 seconds or so left in game 1. Then Harden hit a ridiculous shot to win it for them. Game 3, Tatum hit multiple daggers to help put the game away. Game 4, Tatum hit a three to put us ahead with 38 seconds left. Then Harden, once again hit a huge shot.

Blaming other players when defending a player is weird lol.

I have no problem with anything Tatum does in crunch time. You win or lose with your best players. That's the problem I have with the Celtics. Celtics should be winning or losing with Tatum and Brown making or not making plays.

I love Marcus Smart but he finished 12th on the Celtics this season in field goal percentage. He shouldn't be getting the most shots in crunch time. It makes zero sense.

Brown is shooting 57% in this series and 41% from three and Mazzulla has him stand in a corner. You are doing the other team a huge favor by taking Jaylen Brown completely out of the action. Again, makes no sense.

Win or lose with your best players!

(That's my last rant of the day).
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Re: PLAYOFFS: Rnd 2, Gm 5 – Sixers (2) @ Celtics (2) – 7:30PM, Tues, May 9, 2023 

Post#85 » by Bad-Thoma » Tue May 9, 2023 1:46 pm

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Bad-Thoma wrote:Smart shot better in the clutch this season than everyone EXCEPT Brogdon and White (of the players that played significant clutch minutes). The starting lineup should close the game, Malcolm is a good shooter but he was getting cooked defensively last night.


Not from deep where he was 4/17 at 23.5%. Good for 9th best on the team.

23.5% from deep in the regular season in crunch time
33.3% from deep in the playoffs in crunch time.

Definitely not who we want shooting threes in crunch time. I guarantee you the opposing defense does.


We didn't need a 3 to win, we lost by 1. I get criticizing the lack of a time out even if I didn't have an issue with it, I also get criticizing the shot we ended up with but there's more to the game than **** 3pt percentage.
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Re: PLAYOFFS: Rnd 2, Gm 5 – Sixers (2) @ Celtics (2) – 7:30PM, Tues, May 9, 2023 

Post#86 » by Feed Your Head » Tue May 9, 2023 1:46 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:
Feed Your Head wrote:
tfribs45 wrote:
Smahht takes all the blame LMFAO, how about JT lay it in or go up strong instead of kicking it out with a second left..... Time to put up or shut up now! We know the dawgs are going to show up when the lights are bright. Lets see who disappears in fear.....


Tatum, in 27 crunch time minutes these playoffs.

17/5/3 on 5-9 shooting, 70% TS, 0 turnovers.

This series alone, he put us ahead at the line with 25 seconds or so left in game 1. Then Harden hit a ridiculous shot to win it for them. Game 3, Tatum hit multiple daggers to help put the game away. Game 4, Tatum hit a three to put us ahead with 38 seconds left. Then Harden, once again hit a huge shot.

Blaming other players when defending a player is weird lol.

I have no problem with anything Tatum does in crunch time. You win or lose with your best players. That's the problem I have with the Celtics. Celtics should be winning or losing with Tatum and Brown making or not making plays.

I love Marcus Smart but he finished 12th on the Celtics this season in field goal percentage. He shouldn't be getting the most shots in crunch time. It makes zero sense.


So I’ve said multiple times that the coaches need to find a way to get Jaylen more involved late. And while I think part of it is Jaylen being passive, I’ve been trying to figure out why they don’t run two man actions with Tatum and Jaylen late in these games.

The only thing I can think of is that they’re worried about Jaylen’s handles in traffic against a set defense late in games. I’m not even saying it’s how I feel, I just can’t think of any other reason why.
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Post#87 » by Celts17Pride » Tue May 9, 2023 1:48 pm

Feed Your Head wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:
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Tatum, in 27 crunch time minutes these playoffs.

17/5/3 on 5-9 shooting, 70% TS, 0 turnovers.

This series alone, he put us ahead at the line with 25 seconds or so left in game 1. Then Harden hit a ridiculous shot to win it for them. Game 3, Tatum hit multiple daggers to help put the game away. Game 4, Tatum hit a three to put us ahead with 38 seconds left. Then Harden, once again hit a huge shot.

Blaming other players when defending a player is weird lol.

I have no problem with anything Tatum does in crunch time. You win or lose with your best players. That's the problem I have with the Celtics. Celtics should be winning or losing with Tatum and Brown making or not making plays.

I love Marcus Smart but he finished 12th on the Celtics this season in field goal percentage. He shouldn't be getting the most shots in crunch time. It makes zero sense.


So I’ve said multiple times that the coaches need to find a way to get Jaylen more involved late. And while I think part of it is Jaylen being passive, I’ve been trying to figure out why they don’t run two man actions with Tatum and Jaylen late in these games.

The only thing I can think of is that they’re worried about Jaylen’s handles in traffic against a set defense late in games. I’m not even saying it’s how I feel, I just can’t think of any other reason why.

You keep saying Jaylen Brown is passive. Mazzulla has him standing in the corner while Tatum/Smart do their thing. That has nothing to do with being passive that is the coach saying we are going to rely on Tatum/Smart. Which is dumb.

Tatum/Brown two man game. Put Marcus Smart in the corner.

Worried about JB's handle? Guess what? Tatum/Smart is not working. Win/lose with your best players.
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Post#88 » by tfribs45 » Tue May 9, 2023 1:50 pm

Feed Your Head wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:
Feed Your Head wrote:
Tatum, in 27 crunch time minutes these playoffs.

17/5/3 on 5-9 shooting, 70% TS, 0 turnovers.

This series alone, he put us ahead at the line with 25 seconds or so left in game 1. Then Harden hit a ridiculous shot to win it for them. Game 3, Tatum hit multiple daggers to help put the game away. Game 4, Tatum hit a three to put us ahead with 38 seconds left. Then Harden, once again hit a huge shot.

Blaming other players when defending a player is weird lol.

I have no problem with anything Tatum does in crunch time. You win or lose with your best players. That's the problem I have with the Celtics. Celtics should be winning or losing with Tatum and Brown making or not making plays.

I love Marcus Smart but he finished 12th on the Celtics this season in field goal percentage. He shouldn't be getting the most shots in crunch time. It makes zero sense.


So I’ve said multiple times that the coaches need to find a way to get Jaylen more involved late. And while I think part of it is Jaylen being passive, I’ve been trying to figure out why they don’t run two man actions with Tatum and Jaylen late in these games.

The only thing I can think of is that they’re worried about Jaylen’s handles in traffic against a set defense late in games. I’m not even saying it’s how I feel, I just can’t think of any other reason why.


everyone used to crush Lebron when he deferred at the end of games. Our stars need to demand the ball and take charge like IT4 and PP used to do... no excuses. We lack that "Mamba" mentality as a unit, and one of the few players willing to take the shot, shouldn't be in that position.
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Post#89 » by Feed Your Head » Tue May 9, 2023 1:52 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:
Feed Your Head wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:I have no problem with anything Tatum does in crunch time. You win or lose with your best players. That's the problem I have with the Celtics. Celtics should be winning or losing with Tatum and Brown making or not making plays.

I love Marcus Smart but he finished 12th on the Celtics this season in field goal percentage. He shouldn't be getting the most shots in crunch time. It makes zero sense.


So I’ve said multiple times that the coaches need to find a way to get Jaylen more involved late. And while I think part of it is Jaylen being passive, I’ve been trying to figure out why they don’t run two man actions with Tatum and Jaylen late in these games.

The only thing I can think of is that they’re worried about Jaylen’s handles in traffic against a set defense late in games. I’m not even saying it’s how I feel, I just can’t think of any other reason why.

You keep saying Jaylen Brown is passive. Mazzulla has him standing in the corner while Tatum/Smart do their thing. That has nothing to do with being passive that is the coach saying we are going to rely on Tatum/Smart. Which is dumb.

Tatum/Brown two man game. Put Marcus Smart in the corner.

Worried about JB's handle? Guess what? Tatum/Smart is not working. Win/lose with your best players.


So how do you explain his shots being way down every quarter after the first? I don’t completely disagree about what you’re saying in crunch time, but there’s no way you watch the games and think Jaylen has been as aggressive in the second, third, and early in the fourth, as he has in the first.

They aren’t freezing him out for multiple quarters every game.
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Post#90 » by Celts17Pride » Tue May 9, 2023 1:52 pm

tfribs45 wrote:
Feed Your Head wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:I have no problem with anything Tatum does in crunch time. You win or lose with your best players. That's the problem I have with the Celtics. Celtics should be winning or losing with Tatum and Brown making or not making plays.

I love Marcus Smart but he finished 12th on the Celtics this season in field goal percentage. He shouldn't be getting the most shots in crunch time. It makes zero sense.


So I’ve said multiple times that the coaches need to find a way to get Jaylen more involved late. And while I think part of it is Jaylen being passive, I’ve been trying to figure out why they don’t run two man actions with Tatum and Jaylen late in these games.

The only thing I can think of is that they’re worried about Jaylen’s handles in traffic against a set defense late in games. I’m not even saying it’s how I feel, I just can’t think of any other reason why.


everyone used to crush Lebron when he deferred at the end of games. Our stars need to demand the ball and take charge like IT4 and PP used to do... no excuses. We lack that "Mamba" mentality as a unit, and one of the few players willing to take the shot, shouldn't be in that position.

I think it's a Marcus Smart problem. Smart demands the ball like he is Lebron or Mamba.
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Post#91 » by Celts17Pride » Tue May 9, 2023 1:54 pm

Feed Your Head wrote:
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So I’ve said multiple times that the coaches need to find a way to get Jaylen more involved late. And while I think part of it is Jaylen being passive, I’ve been trying to figure out why they don’t run two man actions with Tatum and Jaylen late in these games.

The only thing I can think of is that they’re worried about Jaylen’s handles in traffic against a set defense late in games. I’m not even saying it’s how I feel, I just can’t think of any other reason why.

You keep saying Jaylen Brown is passive. Mazzulla has him standing in the corner while Tatum/Smart do their thing. That has nothing to do with being passive that is the coach saying we are going to rely on Tatum/Smart. Which is dumb.

Tatum/Brown two man game. Put Marcus Smart in the corner.

Worried about JB's handle? Guess what? Tatum/Smart is not working. Win/lose with your best players.


So how do you explain his shots being way down every quarter after the first? I don’t completely disagree about what you’re saying in crunch time, but there’s no way you watch the games and think Jaylen has been as aggressive in the second, third, and early in the fourth, as he has in the first.

They aren’t freezing him out for multiple quarters every game.

Celtics still have a problem with everyone has to get their shot. Brogdon, Smart are the main culprits in my opinion. Both have to get their 15 shots come hell or high water. Doesn't just effect Jaylen Brown, it effects D White too. That's my opinion.
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Post#92 » by Bad-Thoma » Tue May 9, 2023 2:00 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:
tfribs45 wrote:
Feed Your Head wrote:
So I’ve said multiple times that the coaches need to find a way to get Jaylen more involved late. And while I think part of it is Jaylen being passive, I’ve been trying to figure out why they don’t run two man actions with Tatum and Jaylen late in these games.

The only thing I can think of is that they’re worried about Jaylen’s handles in traffic against a set defense late in games. I’m not even saying it’s how I feel, I just can’t think of any other reason why.


everyone used to crush Lebron when he deferred at the end of games. Our stars need to demand the ball and take charge like IT4 and PP used to do... no excuses. We lack that "Mamba" mentality as a unit, and one of the few players willing to take the shot, shouldn't be in that position.

I think it's a Marcus Smart problem. Smart demands the ball like he is Lebron or Mamba.


A: That's nonsense. B: Marcus is 3rd on the team for true shooting percentage in the postseason anyways so **** it.
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Post#93 » by Feed Your Head » Tue May 9, 2023 2:03 pm

The Celtics offense in crunch time hasn’t been an issue these playoffs, FWIW. Of the teams left in the playoffs, only the Knicks have a higher clutch offensive rating, and it’s in 1/3rd the minutes.

It’s their crunch time defense that’s been the problem, is the second worst of any of the teams who made the playoffs, just ahead of the Cavs.

The crunch time offense has delivered, and created a ton of great looks.
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Post#94 » by Fantaxp7 » Tue May 9, 2023 2:32 pm

No Tony Brothers tonight...But Marc Davis...meh

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Post#95 » by Parliament10 » Tue May 9, 2023 2:42 pm

Celtics need to play Smarter. Not necessarily Better, but definitely Smarter.
And that goes back to the Coach. Why not call a Timeout with 18.2 secs left?
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Post#96 » by Celts17Pride » Tue May 9, 2023 2:45 pm

Regular season (shot attempts per game)

Tatum 21.1
Brown 20.6
Brogdon 10.9
Smart 9.9

This series (shot attempts per game)

Tatum 18.0 (-3.10) .472 shooting percentage
Brown 15.25 (-5.35) .574 shooting percentage
Brogdon 14.0 (+3.10) .464 shooting percentage
Smart 12.75 (+2.76) .431 shooting percentage

In my opinion Doc Rivers is winning because he is making the players that he wants to take the shots shoot the ball.

More Tatum/Brown. Please!
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Post#97 » by lon3lytoaster » Tue May 9, 2023 2:46 pm

Fantaxp7 wrote:No Tony Brothers tonight...But Marc Davis...meh

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Marc Davis is the worst.
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Post#98 » by Hal14 » Tue May 9, 2023 2:49 pm

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Marc Davis is the worst.

He's bad. But he's born, raised in chicago, lives in chicago. He called an awful game for us when we faced the bulls earlier this season, in chicago. I'm optimistic he might not be so terrible if we're not facing the bulls.
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Post#99 » by tfribs45 » Tue May 9, 2023 3:01 pm

Parliament10 wrote:Celtics need to play Smarter. Not necessarily Better, but definitely Smarter.
And that goes back to the Coach. Why not call a Timeout with 18.2 secs left?


Mazzullas presser after the game was embarrassing too. Pretty bad when Magic Johnsons tweeting about our end of the game blunders. Need to clean it up!
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Marc Davis is the worst.

He's bad. But he's born, raised in chicago, lives in chicago. He called an awful game for us when we faced the bulls earlier this season, in chicago. I'm optimistic he might not be so terrible if we're not facing the bulls.


Actually, I'm pretty sure he just doesn't like Doc Rivers due to something he said about Marc's brother or something back in the day. Maybe that will bode well.

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