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Celts Build Brick Wall, Put Their Backs Against It! G5 Loss vs PHI 5/9 (PHI leads 3-2)

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What was most Ass-of-Shameful?

Crap shooting
11
9%
Couldn't get stops
17
14%
Inconsistent intensity/aggressiveness
11
9%
Bonehead errors
3
2%
Not enough players produced
7
6%
A particular player was the ass of shame
2
2%
We're down 3-2 to the damn Sixers
17
14%
Everything I'm just pissed
33
27%
Other/Coach/Team
22
18%
 
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Re: Celts Build Brick Wall, Put Their Backs Against It! G5 Loss vs PHI 5/9 (PHI leads 3-2) 

Post#261 » by Celts17Pride » Wed May 10, 2023 3:53 am

Feed Your Head wrote:My overreaction post is that I do not care if Brogdon is back next year.

Brogdan and his $22.5 million probably won't be in my opinion. He was always that luxury to get the Celtics over the top. If they fail I'll be surprised if he is back.

Not sure if more time for White and Pritchard is much of a difference than Brogdon especially for $22.5 million. Brogdon has been straight ugly on defense all series
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Re: Celts Build Brick Wall, Put Their Backs Against It! G5 Loss vs PHI 5/9 (PHI leads 3-2) 

Post#262 » by Feed Your Head » Wed May 10, 2023 3:53 am

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It's cultural though. These guys aren't interested in doing the work on defense.


I think diminished physical skill plays a real part.

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Post#263 » by rd26 » Wed May 10, 2023 3:55 am

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Feed Your Head wrote:Celtics biggest problem defensively is the same as it’s been all year, they can’t stop guards at the point of attack, always in scramble mode.


It's cultural though. These guys aren't interested in doing the work on defense.


I think diminished physical skill plays a real part.


Agree 100%

Rob is basically gone.

Al is 38 and playing full time at the 5. It shows

Smart has regressed significantly, whether age, injury or too much offensive workload, doesn't really matter, its happened.

White just got named all nba, but imo while he had a great statistical season, blocks in particular but is not an elite defender in general and borderline bad at staying in front of his man.

Grant is basically out of the rotation

Brogdon, well he just isn't good on that end

Tatum and Brown are basically where they were last season.

Thats alot of regression without even taking bazooka Joe into account.

Its not 100% lack of effort
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Post#264 » by Feed Your Head » Wed May 10, 2023 3:58 am

Tatum and Jaylen have done their jobs this postseason. They haven’t been perfect, but Jaylen is averaging a super efficient 25/5/4, and has been mostly really good defensively. Tatum is averaging 27/11/5 on a 58% TS, has barely turned the ball over, has been super efficient in the clutch, and is shooting 72% at the rim.

Hopefully they both have bigtime games Thursday, will need it on the road.
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Post#265 » by GrandTheftRondo » Wed May 10, 2023 4:01 am

PierceFan4ever wrote:I think doubling Embiid is a bad move at this point. Worst case scenario is when their whole team is eating along with embiid which makes the Sixers hard to guard. Just like that regular season game we lost to the Sixers when embiid dropped 50, the Sixers barely won at home without JB playing and Tatum playing like garbage. If embiid beats you so be it, but don’t let maxey, harden, Harris cook you or else it’s gonna be easy work.

Should put Grant out there on Embiid for 20 minutes. Let him annoy the **** out of him.

Then offensively he can force Embiid to cover ground to get out to his shot.
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Post#266 » by GoCeltics123 » Wed May 10, 2023 4:04 am

I don’t even know where you start with changes for this team
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Post#267 » by Bar Fight » Wed May 10, 2023 4:14 am

GrandTheftRondo wrote:
PierceFan4ever wrote:I think doubling Embiid is a bad move at this point. Worst case scenario is when their whole team is eating along with embiid which makes the Sixers hard to guard. Just like that regular season game we lost to the Sixers when embiid dropped 50, the Sixers barely won at home without JB playing and Tatum playing like garbage. If embiid beats you so be it, but don’t let maxey, harden, Harris cook you or else it’s gonna be easy work.

Should put Grant out there on Embiid for 20 minutes. Let him annoy the **** out of him.

Then offensively he can force Embiid to cover ground to get out to his shot.

Grant came in and immediately sent Embiid to the line multiple times on dumb **** fouls. He was useless against him
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Post#268 » by Mr_Mojo_Risin » Wed May 10, 2023 4:16 am

When Embiid was around the perimeter, he looked like he had as much trouble with JT as his defender as anyone else. If we want to try a 5 outside Al and Rob then I think there is something in that we could use in defense. Especially if Al is bricking all his 3s.

Brogdon's defense has been really poor overall, there is not enough focus and urgency from him on that end. PP deserves a chance earlier in game 6 if we're struggling again. PP can be abused on defense but he at least focuses and provides effort. He can be a real pest down low which has been known to bother Harden at times.

I understand JB not being given the ball early in the half court toward the end of quarters because of his handle and decision making, even still he needs to work harder to make himself more available. In general we need a lot more off ball movement in offense. White needs to step up here too.

Al has regressed but even so, we should try the double big lineup in the first half if we're in trouble.

Joe needs to have a shorter leash on timeouts in the first half when they go on a run.

The effort and consistent focus from all of our players need to lift from the opening bounce.

There is no safety net now, we've done well in the past with that, time to step up again.
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Re: Celts Build Brick Wall, Put Their Backs Against It! G5 Loss vs PHI 5/9 (PHI leads 3-2) 

Post#269 » by The_Ghost_of_JB » Wed May 10, 2023 4:16 am

Maybe it's okay to accept that the sixes are just the better team. They have a better coach, the defense is better they have the best player on their team and arguably the second best player with Harden.
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Post#270 » by Mr_Mojo_Risin » Wed May 10, 2023 4:19 am

The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:Maybe it's okay to accept that the sixes are just the better team. They have a better coach, the defense is better they have the best player on their team and arguably the second best player with Harden.

I think a lot on here have seriously continued to underrate them and how well they have played and adjusted.

However I'm not ready to accept they're better, just that they've been playing better so far.

Without doubt they're being coached better.
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Post#271 » by SuperDeluxe » Wed May 10, 2023 4:22 am

The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:Maybe it's okay to accept that the sixes are just the better team. They have a better coach, the defense is better they have the best player on their team and arguably the second best player with Harden.

I think the problem is that the Celtics are a part-time team, and it may end up biting them hard in the ass. They manhandled the Sixers in the RS, and frankly have been doing it for years so the Sixers aren't (or haven't been) the better team.

They need to show up the next two games tho, otherwise there may not be two games at all.
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Post#272 » by Fierce1 » Wed May 10, 2023 4:27 am

GoCeltics123 wrote:I don’t even know where you start with changes for this team

Start by getting a new Center.

Al is old.

Rob is injury prone.
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Post#273 » by The Corey's » Wed May 10, 2023 4:27 am

The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:Maybe it's okay to accept that the sixes are just the better team. They have a better coach, the defense is better they have the best player on their team and arguably the second best player with Harden.


The sixers are not the better team.

If this team does it's **** job they literally clean sweep them.
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Post#274 » by Fierce1 » Wed May 10, 2023 4:31 am

Let's not forget that Pierce and the
Cs were up 3-2 against Lebron and Miami in 2012.

And Cs were also up 3-2 against Lebron and the Cavs in 2018.

Both times the Cs ended up losing those series.

So it's not over.

Game 6 will be the hardest game of the season for the Sixers.
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Post#275 » by Edug27 » Wed May 10, 2023 4:32 am

Fierce1 wrote:Let's not forget that Pierce and the
Cs were up 3-2 against Lebron and Miami in 2012.

And Cs were also up 3-2 against Lebron and the Cavs in 2018.

Both times the Cs ended up losing those series.

So it's not over.

Game 6 will be the hardest game of the season for the Sixers.


We don’t have prime Lebron.
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Post#276 » by Edug27 » Wed May 10, 2023 4:34 am

GoCeltics123 wrote:I don’t even know where you start with changes for this team


I think you just run it back and hope we don’t make the same repeated mistakes.
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Post#277 » by Fierce1 » Wed May 10, 2023 4:34 am

Edug27 wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:Let's not forget that Pierce and the
Cs were up 3-2 against Lebron and Miami in 2012.

And Cs were also up 3-2 against Lebron and the Cavs in 2018.

Both times the Cs ended up losing those series.

So it's not over.

Game 6 will be the hardest game of the season for the Sixers.


We don’t have prime Lebron.

A close to his prime Tatum is good enough.
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Post#278 » by Edug27 » Wed May 10, 2023 4:34 am

That game 1 loss was brutal. Keep replaying it back in my head. Shouldn’t have happened.
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Post#279 » by The_Ghost_of_JB » Wed May 10, 2023 4:34 am

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The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:Maybe it's okay to accept that the sixes are just the better team. They have a better coach, the defense is better they have the best player on their team and arguably the second best player with Harden.

I think the problem is that the Celtics are a part-time team, and it may end up biting them hard in the ass. They manhandled the Sixers in the RS, and frankly have been doing it for years so the Sixers aren't (or haven't been) the better team.

They need to show up the next two games tho, otherwise there may not be two games at all.


They are. The reality is the roster is full of players that we have no idea what will do from one game to the next. Look at hordord, great Sunday and bricked shots tonight. He isn't the only one.

I suppose when a team no shows (tonight's game) and loses two winable games (games 1 and 4) at some point there is a high probability it's costs them the series
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Post#280 » by Fierce1 » Wed May 10, 2023 4:35 am

Edug27 wrote:
GoCeltics123 wrote:I don’t even know where you start with changes for this team


I think you just run it back and hope we don’t make the same repeated mistakes.

That's the key, "mistakes", and it was stupid mistakes!

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