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NBA PLAYOFFS: Game 5: (4) Phoenix Suns @ (1) Denver Nuggets l Tuesday l 7:00pm l TNT l Series tied 2-2

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Post#461 » by Saberestar » Wed May 10, 2023 4:39 am

TeamTragic wrote:CP3 plays in G6.

Guaranteed.

Yeah. He can help avoiding some bad decisions on offense and his solid 3p shooting is always there.

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Post#462 » by Slim Charless » Wed May 10, 2023 4:40 am

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LV-Suns wrote:Hey, if we lose the next game, at least we don't ever have to watch Deandre Ayton attempt to play basketball again hopefully.

I'll believe he's gone when I see it happen. He's been absolutely terrible. Like I don't even want to watch games much anymore and mostly because it pisses me off to watch an athlete of his caliber play so soft and timid.
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He's gone.

To Atlanta is my personal guess but to NYC or even Miami might be possible.
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Post#463 » by skywalker33 » Wed May 10, 2023 4:41 am

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KLEON wrote:Lol Denver up 20 and still trying to waste time


Would you rather they try to run up the score ?
To be honest, I'm surprised they're not doing precisely that to emphasize their might.

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Post#464 » by LV-Suns » Wed May 10, 2023 4:41 am

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LV-Suns wrote:Hey, if we lose the next game, at least we don't ever have to watch Deandre Ayton attempt to play basketball again hopefully.

I'll believe he's gone when I see it happen. He's been absolutely terrible. Like I don't even want to watch games much anymore and mostly because it pisses me off to watch an athlete of his caliber play so soft and timid.

He is lazy as ****, there is no other way around it. I am just so sick of watching Jokic beat him down the court and most of the time, he starts behind Ayton. We continuously get dominated on the boards, he gives up and watches the ball to either go in or one of his teammmates to grab it. Its sad that KD is a better suited for the last line of defense role than this guy is. There is no way around, he doesn't play winning basketball. This man was born to play 10 years for the Charlotte Hornets.
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Post#465 » by SunsRback4Good » Wed May 10, 2023 4:42 am

Mixer826 wrote:Given that we have an incompetent Center/Coach, injured starting PG and an awful bench we are only down 3-2. I am confident next year will be our year especially with Booker reaching a new level. That is if we fix all these issues. Ayton absolutely needs to be traded. He is literally useless out there. Hopefully we fix all this in the off season. I’ve been a Suns fan for 22yrs and every year is tough man. I just want to see 1 championship. I will die a happy man :sigh:


I’ve also been a Suns fan for 22 years well since early 2000’s. One ring is all I want to see as well. Next year might be our best season to achieve the feat but KD will be a year older and with his fragile legs you never know what can happen. :(
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Post#466 » by kennydorglas » Wed May 10, 2023 4:44 am

I wouldnt call 32% a solid 3pt shooting
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Post#467 » by AtheJ415 » Wed May 10, 2023 4:45 am

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LV-Suns wrote:Hey, if we lose the next game, at least we don't ever have to watch Deandre Ayton attempt to play basketball again hopefully.

This is where all the energy should be from this board. He’s the sole reason we might lose this series. You can say whatever you want about the Suns depth but KD, Book AND Ayton SHOULD be enough but for whatever reason DA just is not stepping up. There is zero excuse for the way he’s played his entire career.


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No, Monty having to be bullied into playing Ross and Warren until game 3 cost us this series. KD shooting 20% from the field with 5+ turnovers in like every game except 1 will cost us this series.

It's not just Ayton. We have a full on **** show not just 1 dude.
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Post#468 » by Mixer826 » Wed May 10, 2023 4:46 am

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Mixer826 wrote:Given that we have an incompetent Center/Coach, injured starting PG and an awful bench we are only down 3-2. I am confident next year will be our year especially with Booker reaching a new level. That is if we fix all these issues. Ayton absolutely needs to be traded. He is literally useless out there. Hopefully we fix all this in the off season. I’ve been a Suns fan for 22yrs and every year is tough man. I just want to see 1 championship. I will die a happy man :sigh:


I’ve also been a Suns fan for 22 years well since early 2000’s. One ring is all I want to see as well. Next year might be our best season to achieve the feat but KD will be a year older and with his fragile legs you never know what can happen. :(


I live in Los Angeles so it’s even more tough. All my friends are Lakers fans. It’s just frustrating that it finally looked like we got a break by getting KD and just watching Ayton playing like that. If he just played with some heart I believe we’d be up in this series. It hurts man… lol
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Post#469 » by kennydorglas » Wed May 10, 2023 4:49 am

Still interesting we all make jokes about Luka/Jokic weight... but they're always overhustling the "next David Robinson"
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Post#470 » by spanishninja » Wed May 10, 2023 4:50 am

the sad thing is after this elimination, the media will reset Booker back to "star" status because he couldnt carry these bums and next year he will have to "ascend" again to superstar.

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Post#471 » by AtheJ415 » Wed May 10, 2023 4:50 am

kennydorglas wrote:Still interesting we all make jokes about Luka/Jokic weight... but they're always overhustling the "next David Robinson"


They outhustle half our team. I truly wonder how different this team would be if we had a coach with ANY fire. We mirror his approach, which is unbothered, low intensity, take what the other team gives / allows, etc.
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Post#472 » by grumpysaddle » Wed May 10, 2023 4:51 am

Don't worry, we will get a video of Ayton admitting he played terrible and that "next game is the one where he is 'DominAytin'"
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Post#473 » by Jdiddy701 » Wed May 10, 2023 4:51 am

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LV-Suns wrote:Hey, if we lose the next game, at least we don't ever have to watch Deandre Ayton attempt to play basketball again hopefully.

This is where all the energy should be from this board. He’s the sole reason we might lose this series. You can say whatever you want about the Suns depth but KD, Book AND Ayton SHOULD be enough but for whatever reason DA just is not stepping up. There is zero excuse for the way he’s played his entire career.


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No, Monty having to be bullied into playing Ross and Warren until game 3 cost us this series. KD shooting 20% from the field with 5+ turnovers in like every game except 1 will cost us this series.

It's not just Ayton. We have a full on **** show not just 1 dude.

Everything is easy for Denver when he’s around. Everything. I’m definitely putting this entire series on him. Let’s be real, Monty plays Ross and TJ game 1 and 2, you really think the Suns win those games? The reason depth is a huge issue for the Suns is because our max center is averaging a whopping 10pts and 7 rebounds. Denver is feasting every time he’s around. He’s a joke. This dude got benched and replaced by Jock freaking Landale.


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Post#474 » by SkyBill40 » Wed May 10, 2023 4:53 am

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Would you rather they try to run up the score ?
To be honest, I'm surprised they're not doing precisely that to emphasize their might.

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The white flag is enough, DEN is not an arrogant team IMO
They're not? You sure? Clearly not in the same breath as MEM, but I'd definitely put them as having some air of arrogance.

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Post#475 » by garrick » Wed May 10, 2023 4:54 am

SunsRback4Good wrote:Ayton, Payne, Shamet need to be gone in the off-season. Monty can stay another year it all depends on what Matt wants to do. But I truly believe Ayton had played his last playoff game in a Suns uniform.


You can’t expect to pull a late season trade and have the team play well during the playoffs with a depleted bench. Even KD looks shaky as hell on offense most games.
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Post#476 » by AtheJ415 » Wed May 10, 2023 4:55 am

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Jdiddy701 wrote:This is where all the energy should be from this board. He’s the sole reason we might lose this series. You can say whatever you want about the Suns depth but KD, Book AND Ayton SHOULD be enough but for whatever reason DA just is not stepping up. There is zero excuse for the way he’s played his entire career.


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No, Monty having to be bullied into playing Ross and Warren until game 3 cost us this series. KD shooting 20% from the field with 5+ turnovers in like every game except 1 will cost us this series.

It's not just Ayton. We have a full on **** show not just 1 dude.

Everything is easy for Denver when he’s around. Everything. I’m definitely putting this entire series on him. Let’s be real, Monty plays Ross and TJ game 1 and 2, you really think the Suns win those games? The reason depth is a huge issue for the Suns is because our max center is averaging a whopping 10pts and 7 rebounds. Denver is feasting every time he’s around. He’s a joke.


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Playing the guys who can shoot against a team doubling 2 different players on the court at once? Yes, I think it does.

And I don't care how you feel about it -- KD is a walking terrible shot and a walking turnover shooting with amazing inefficiency at high volume right now. He is KILLING us. We also have backup bigs who are good. Monty can always sub Ayton out. What we cannot afford is the guy we traded a historic haul for shooting 20% from the field and turning it over 5-8 times a game while pouting and missing 3 point defensive rotations left and right. That is not an exaggeration. KD has been BRUTAL in all but one game of this series and his high box score numbers are a product of usage, not a reflection of good play.
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Post#477 » by Ghost of Kleine » Wed May 10, 2023 4:57 am

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Here we go with this BS again


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Yeah! Total BS! I mean what are people thinking.........right?? Because Williams has done such a terrific job with getting our team ready and focused for this pivotal game. Especially his not playing Craig all night until the last few minutes of the game, not bringing in Landale earlier. Not trying Lee for some better spacing, not making adjustments in game, taking Warren out and sitting him right after he finally was heating up and finding a rythym.

But my favorite part has to be him playing Shamet close to 25 minutes with only 4 points contributed. And my very favorite his trademark half comotose/ half severe IBS blank stare throughout the entire game. He's about as active and inspiring as a mannequin 90% of the time!

If he didn't have to get up to go to the locker room for halftime, or occasionally call 1-2 timeouts per game, people might not even know he's alive over there. At least Malone is out there fighting for his players and going at the refs, being vocal, getting his players fired up, and even MAKING TIMELY IN GAME ADJUSTMENTS.

In fairness, it's of course not all on Monty as Ayton was a no show and pretty much has already checked out. And Durant has been a shell of his former self and not at all dominant as needed. And our bench is predictably unreliable and incredibly mediocre. But what Monty is Gary responsible for is playing Shamet WAY TOO MUCH! Sitting players in a rythym at the wrong time. Not managing his rotations properly. Not properly utilizing his timeouts accordingly to slow down or impede Denver's offensive runs. And the really big kno for any coaches! NOT HAVING OUR PLAYERS READY AND FOCUSED/ DIALED IN / ENGAGED ON THE GAME. ALSO, for the 3rd straight series now, getting epically embarrassed and outcoached due to inability to make in game matchup adjustments at all. He's the freaking coach and leader of this team! He's supposed to keep our team engaged and is supposed to put our team in good positions schematically to compete.


None of those things happened tonight in a pivotal swing game. Everything went wrong that could go wrong! But as the head coach, it's his duty to ensure to team is operating under those conditions ( per job description). For the 3rd series now, that's not happened. So regardless of it not fully being his fault, he did play a big factor in our outcome tonight. Also there'll be a lot of changes coming this summer with such a letdown if we lose this series after adding Durant! As I've said repeatedly, I don't mind at all if they keep him, AS LONG AS they actually upgrade our cos hing bench to cover his remaining inadequacies. But that's ultimately Ishbia's call. And with him and his brother both sitting at the game in person to witness such an embarrassing loss, Monty will absolutely be under a big microscope!
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Post#478 » by SunsRback4Good » Wed May 10, 2023 5:00 am

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SunsRback4Good wrote:Ayton, Payne, Shamet need to be gone in the off-season. Monty can stay another year it all depends on what Matt wants to do. But I truly believe Ayton had played his last playoff game in a Suns uniform.


You can’t expect to pull a late season trade and have the team play well during the playoffs with a depleted bench. Even KD looks shaky as hell on offense most games.

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Post#479 » by Mixer826 » Wed May 10, 2023 5:01 am

Here I am 6 beers in and Monty Williams post conference comes on and I go on an absolute rant to my girlfriend who has no clue what I’m saying lol I’m here telling her how I can’t believe a man that has been around basketball his whole life and played professionally can’t see that his trash rotations aren’t working and needs to go to different guys. I have never played professionally or anything so maybe I’m wrong. But I see all of you saying the same thing so maybe I’m not. Lol and how tf are you 7ft with a max contract and playing like a f****n p***y!!!! Gets me angry lol
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Post#480 » by SunsRback4Good » Wed May 10, 2023 5:02 am

garrick wrote:
SunsRback4Good wrote:Ayton, Payne, Shamet need to be gone in the off-season. Monty can stay another year it all depends on what Matt wants to do. But I truly believe Ayton had played his last playoff game in a Suns uniform.


You can’t expect to pull a late season trade and have the team play well during the playoffs with a depleted bench. Even KD looks shaky as hell on offense most games.


I understand that but Ayton and Payne have been struggling ever since last years playoffs. That magical 2021 year has passed them by. One player doesn’t want to be here while another seems to get injured every other month. Then watching Shamet is frustrating and he needs to be gone too. We need to bring in the right players to surround them around Booker and KD.

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