Curry's Offense

[Heej]

o i dum

how bout wilt n mikan

also wuts a pivot passer

No imo. People who pass from the elbow

[DCasey91]

Free throw rate is a good point

What do people think is the reason it's so low relatively? Obviously a much lower likelihood of getting fouled on a jump shot, but it seems anecdotally that he doesn't get nearly as many calls on drives as his peers

Is it an approach thing? I'm tempted to say reffing has some impact, but have to check my Warriors fan bias

Because he shoots it from the proverbial car park. Privy to what people believe he does go shotjacking which to some degree hinders the team’s offence. 2018 finals, 2021 reg season (for good reason though), playin vs the Grizzlies when him and green had 13 turnovers and most of them were run of the mill passes. 2016 wtf pass?!! It comes out from time to time

But Harden/CP3 have those boneheaded issues too

I’m indifferent to a lot of people on Curry. If his shot isn’t falling I’m not overawed by what he brings to the table holistically.

Never seen him have a career defining shot in the playoffs. Seen career defining games of course but not pure one shots.

And when anyone calls Curry a great passer I stop short on that.

No slight on him I think he’s obviously one of the greatest guards of all time and a complete outlier. But honestly the Curry mystique is as high as Jordan’s is and arguably higher with today’s exposure.

[ShaqAttac]

Currys off ball stuff gets talked about way too much relative to his on ball skill

If he was like Kyrie level in iso you basically have a perfect unguardable pg, the only possible thing I can see is that he’s elite instead is unstoppable in isolation against some switches, everything else is basically perfect (Altho he’s not been as effective on logo threes as he was back at his prime/peak, that actually matters because if he was we couldn’t run a deep drop against him) People don’t talk about his playmaking nearly enough, he throws some careless passes but his actual passing/playmaking ability is for sure up there with the best in the league

Those 4v3 situations aren’t just because of draymond lol, currys the best playmaker out of aggressive screen coverages in nba history and it’s like not even remotely close

Yup this isn't talked enough. He's actually the GOAT passer out of blitzes on the perimeter and especially above the 3pt line. Not that the list of guys who routinely face those coverages us exceptionally long lol. But he's the only one I've seen that strings the big along for an extra dribble and effortlessly hooks a pass over to the rolling big. No one else in the league does that other than Jokic and that's vs post doubles, so he's really the only guy to ever do that.

But also let's call a spade a spade here and acknowledge the fact that he's legitimately bottom 3 in terms of shot selection out of his contemporaries in the top 15 (any guesses on who the other 2 are? ).

He's probably the GOAT guard screener in NBA history with really only Stockton and perhaps CP as his challengers imo (funny enough Kyrie lays solid wood on his screens lol, just can't seal and cut like Curry can).

And this is going to get some Curry stans mad and I don't really care, but you also need to acknowledge that his late game execution is also on the low tier out of the top 15 guys. For whatever reason he makes a lot of bonehead plays and momentum killing TOs and jacks up shots. Stamina is the biggest issue with his particular archetype imo because they're targeted by defenses. In nearly every series you're guaranteed 1 game by Steph that's an absolute dud while he was at his apex, to more of a degree than others he's compared to.

He also doesn't get to the free throw line nearly enough compared to other elite guards in NBA history which is a weakness of his.

Does he produce the most offense by volume? I mean I guess, as far as getting the ball and bodies moving and generating advantages; I can buy that. He also gives defenses a lot of bailout shots though and seemingly has stamina issues throughout certain games in a series.

In aggregate I think his only real guard competitors are Magic Jordan and maybe Big O or Jerry West. I'd probably comfortably take him over everyone on that list except Magic who just managed an offense better than anyone ever, especially for the first 40 minutes of a game. When it gets down to brass tacks in late game execution I wouldn't be surprised if several of those guys jump him due to inconsistency and variance being inherently bad for an offense the less possessions there are.

Like Unibro said, this is probably comfortably Steph if he was better at just playmaking in isolation which is basically the most low variance play type in basketball and esp in 4th quarters. Or even if he just got to the line more. But respectfully, with his shot selection, low FT rate, and spotty decision making (I understand he's the GOAT shooter but let's be real here) I just am not taking him over Magic.

And I'm sure this is why he never actually lead a GOAT level playoff offenses.

u said u would take every1 but magic. would the others get clamped by adpoy