2023 Heat Season Thread - Let me dream edition

[gom]

Glad you are here, AirP., but never give up your Bulls heritage. Lots to be proud of.

[gom]

If you haven't seen Jimmy interview with Redick from a couple years ago - go do it. On youtube.

Watch on YouTube

It speaks to some of the stuff above about Miami enabling Jimmy to be better. From his own mouth. It is a great interview and worth the watch.

Separate note - Heat (assuming they finish off the Knicks):
- won season series with Phoenix (2-0). But pre Durant..
- won season series with Philly (2-1). Only lost the non- Embiid game...
- tied season series with Boston (2-2). One of those losses was no Butler (though 1 win too!)
- tied season series with Lakers (1-1). Lost to the Lakers WITHOUT Lebron and AD. Won the other game vs Lebron (AD didn't play either game this season)
- tied season series with Warriors (1-1)
- lost season series with Denver (0-2)

Thank you for sharing!

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Just heads up - Knicks board is PURE GOLD right now.

If you need a good laugh...a must see

I ain’t even mad at Mitch, it’s not his fault and I 100% give him a free pass for this one. He’s just being dominated by an elite 2x all-star center who is on another tier. Just not the same caliber player. He’s trying his best. There is a reason bam has been taking teams to the finals and conference finals. Some players put in the work to get ripped chiseled and jacked like a Greek god and can make free throws and midrange shots and some players take pictures of their truck all summer and shoot 20% at the line and hobble around the court awkwardly like they just got a painful exam at the proctologists office and can’t catch a basketball.

Good to see outside fans respect him more than Heat fans

[Tony15]

Just heads up - Knicks board is PURE GOLD right now.

If you need a good laugh...a must see

I ain’t even mad at Mitch, it’s not his fault and I 100% give him a free pass for this one. He’s just being dominated by an elite 2x all-star center who is on another tier. Just not the same caliber player. He’s trying his best. There is a reason bam has been taking teams to the finals and conference finals. Some players put in the work to get ripped chiseled and jacked like a Greek god and can make free throws and midrange shots and some players take pictures of their truck all summer and shoot 20% at the line and hobble around the court awkwardly like they just got a painful exam at the proctologists office and can’t catch a basketball.

Good to see outside fans respect him more than Heat fans

Meh I dunno if that's fair. Speaking for me, what we saw in Games 3 & 4 of this series so far is something I know he can do EVERY night on average, he just for some reason doesn't remain aggressive/decisive game to game. I just want the level of aggression we've seen the last two games to continue, starting tonight & beyond.

His contract hurts him too & human nature is always going to compare the $$$ to his raw statistics. Just got to have an eye for all the things that don't necessarily show up in the box score, all which we've been able to expect night in/out & is equally important.

[gom]

Can't see how Bam's contract hurts him. He's a bargain at 5 yr/$163,000,300. The salary cap is $134m+ next season.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Can't see how Bam's contract hurts him. He's a bargain at 5 yr/$163,000,300. The salary cap is $134m+ next season.

He’s on a great contract, he’s closer to being underpaid than overpaid and there isn’t a team in the league that wouldn’t give him the contract he has.

I keep coming back to this when I hear the contract talk but it’s simple, name every player on at least their 2nd contract that is making less money than Bam and is undoubtedly better than him in the league.

[Hallstar]

Bam's contract isn't a problem, but his baseline should be getting on the offensive boards, rolling hard to the rim and shooting the open jumper. None of that requires a play being drawn and should guarantee him 18pts a night.

It's the get the ball and don't look at the basket Bam that gets people riled up.

[contract]

Can't see how Bam's contract hurts him. He's a bargain at 5 yr/$163,000,300. The salary cap is $134m+ next season.

I'm pretty sure he means with fans. People see that you earn $30 million and they expect you to score. $30 million looks like a lot and it kind of is when you consider that he's only making ~ $3 million less this season than Embiid and Jokic. Fortunately that gap grows a ton starting next season.

It's not outrageous for fans to expect him to at least maintain his regular season average, especially with Herro out.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Bam's contract isn't a problem, but his baseline should be getting on the offensive boards, rolling hard to the rim and shooting the open jumper. None of that requires a play being drawn and should guarantee him 18pts a night.

It's the get the ball and don't look at the basket Bam that gets people riled up.

We’ll he’s giving you 18 a night and shooting the same amount of shots that he did all season (a career high) so there you go lol

[Tony15]

Can't see how Bam's contract hurts him. He's a bargain at 5 yr/$163,000,300. The salary cap is $134m+ next season.

I'm pretty sure he means with fans. People see that you earn $30 million and they expect you to score. $30 million looks like a lot and it kind of is when you consider that he's only making ~ $3 million less this season than Embiid and Jokic. Fortunately that gap grows a ton starting next season.

It's not outrageous for fans to expect him to at least maintain his regular season average, especially with Herro out.

Yup exactly my point. Guarantee there's a large segment of Warriors fans that look at Draymond's contract & feel the same as the harshest Bam critic (granted he's paid roughly $8 mil less/yr than Bam). Fans generally, mostly casuals, see PPG as the standard bearer for what a player is worth to a team. Watch Jordan Poole, especially these days, & you'll see how flawed that line of thinking is (he's about to make the same $$ as Bam per year next season).

[twix2500]

Bam is carrying the Heat down the stretch

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[Shewasfly]

Can't see how Bam's contract hurts him. He's a bargain at 5 yr/$163,000,300. The salary cap is $134m+ next season.

I'm pretty sure he means with fans. People see that you earn $30 million and they expect you to score. $30 million looks like a lot and it kind of is when you consider that he's only making ~ $3 million less this season than Embiid and Jokic. Fortunately that gap grows a ton starting next season.

It's not outrageous for fans to expect him to at least maintain his regular season average, especially with Herro out.

Yup exactly my point. Guarantee there's a large segment of Warriors fans that look at Draymond's contract & feel the same as the harshest Bam critic (granted he's paid roughly $8 mil less/yr than Bam). Fans generally, mostly casuals, see PPG as the standard bearer for what a player is worth to a team. Watch Jordan Poole, especially these days, & you'll see how flawed that line of thinking is (he's about to make the same $$ as Bam per year next season).

I'm team accept Bam for what he is and get a real second (maybe even also third?) option, and let Bam be a lockdown defender and finisher who plays off the other key guys. But to call it "casual" to expect a guy getting paid that much to score/be able to create his own offense is taking the Bam excuse making on here too far. Lowry and Love at 90 years old shouldn't get more **** for not having big scoring games than Bam.

There are about 37 players who make around the same or more than Bam, and only a handful of them can you say aren't expected to/can't create offense. Those players are guys like Ben Simmons and Rudy Gobert. And I think we can agree that they face a ton of criticism for being offensively limited? Now granted, there are a couple of others getting paid the same or more who aren't as good as Bam overall imo, but they are almost all still expected to carry a load for their team on offense. And certainly to shoot when open.

So until we upgrade to get a real 2nd, we need Bam to be aggressive and look to score when he's open. He still should play within himself, but he should be set to shoot off pnr's with Jimmy and Kyle, a la his mentor UD. He'd be huge for our offense, especially when Jimmy is being doubled/tripled just doing that alone without hesitation.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Y’all say the dumbest **** about Bam

[3ballbomber]

Bam's contract isn't a problem, but his baseline should be getting on the offensive boards, rolling hard to the rim and shooting the open jumper. None of that requires a play being drawn and should guarantee him 18pts a night.

It's the get the ball and don't look at the basket Bam that gets people riled up.

Can't see how Bam's contract hurts him. He's a bargain at 5 yr/$163,000,300. The salary cap is $134m+ next season.

I'm pretty sure he means with fans. People see that you earn $30 million and they expect you to score. $30 million looks like a lot and it kind of is when you consider that he's only making ~ $3 million less this season than Embiid and Jokic. Fortunately that gap grows a ton starting next season.

It's not outrageous for fans to expect him to at least maintain his regular season average, especially with Herro out.

I'm over this Bam issue. Our organization justifies Edrice regardless of offensive aggression. So you can't expect a player to then commit consistently on that end. If he's not scoring in situations where we need more offensive output but he's still defending, rebounding & screening he knows Heat Org will have his back. He knows he has support to fall back on.

You just have to accept who he is which is like a poor mans David Admiral Robinson who too was a nice guy & was also considered & had the reputation of being 'soft'. Robinson too had no killer streak & couldn't handle the pressure of the playoffs & couldn't elevate his game under the intensity. His numbers typically dropped or stayed the same in the playoffs. In Jim Romes 'The Glossary' where he had nicknames for players, Robinsons entry was 'Little Mermaid'. Robinson was also a jump shooting big who was a finesse player that wasn't a banger (The NBA back then wasn't used to a player of his size and athleticism shooting 15-footers). Players such as Isiah Thomas & Dennis Rodman, who played w/ Robinson, would reiterate the 'soft' reputation Robinson garnered.

Bam is very similar (minus the stats & MVP numbers). But i'm going to be optimistic. Being just 25yo he can develop his game further to improve his skillset that will build his confidence & toughness in future. I've a feeling they are developing that 3pt shot & may be unleashed in future. They may want Bam to first have a consistent jumpshot before extending his range.

[HIF]

Jumping ahead, because I can, my dream would be to see the Miami heat sweep Lebron James in the finals. The tears could drown LA.

[marson]

Jumping ahead, because I can, my dream would be to see the Miami heat sweep Lebron James in the finals. The tears could drown LA.

with AD banged up, the series is still not over. GS just needs to win game 6 and it's a wrap.

[HIF]

Jumping ahead, because I can, my dream would be to see the Miami heat sweep Lebron James in the finals. The tears could drown LA.

with AD banged up, the series is still not over. GS just needs to win game 6 and it's a wrap.

I'd be also happy for Lebron to lose immediately.

[3ballbomber]

Jumping ahead, because I can, my dream would be to see the Miami heat sweep Lebron James in the finals. The tears could drown LA.

that's a wonderful dream. please tell me more...

[AirP.]

Playoffs stats and ratings for Miami so far...

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|Player           |Games|TS%  |2pt% |3pt% |Pts |Ast|Reb|Stl|Blk|TO |ORTG|DRTG|NetRating|
+-----------------+-----+-----+-----+-----+----+---+---+---+---+---+----+----+---------+
|Haywood Highsmith|9    |0.647|0.636|0.429|2.8 |0.3|1.9|0.6|0.1|0.1|139 |108 |31       |
|Caleb Martin     |10   |0.68 |0.733|0.39 |11.1|1.7|5.3|0.8|0.2|1  |131 |112 |19       |
|Jimmy Butler     |9    |0.639|0.586|0.394|31.9|5.6|6.4|1.9|0.9|2.2|129 |111 |18       |
|Max Strus        |10   |0.641|0.762|0.39 |10.6|0.9|3.3|0.6|0.4|0.5|125 |115 |10       |
|Tyler Herro      |1    |0.667|0.6  |0.5  |12  |2  |2  |0  |1  |1  |120 |114 |6        |
|Kevin Love       |10   |0.528|0.462|0.328|8.2 |2  |6.7|0.3|0.5|0.6|114 |109 |5        |
|Kyle Lowry       |10   |0.563|0.5  |0.35 |10  |4.1|2.9|0.9|0.9|1.5|114 |111 |3        |
|Bam Adebayo      |10   |0.544|0.51 |0    |17.6|3.7|9.2|1  |0.6|2.7|109 |110 |-1       |
|Victor Oladipo   |2    |0.566|0.571|0.4  |11.5|1  |3.5|1  |0.5|1  |105 |110 |-5       |
|Duncan Robinson  |10   |0.604|0.308|0.444|8.2 |1.3|1.8|0.3|0  |0.9|109 |116 |-7       |
|Gabe Vincent     |10   |0.491|0.396|0.348|12  |4.8|1.3|0.9|0  |1.8|102 |116 |-14      |
|Cody Zeller      |9    |0.604|0.667|0    |2.9 |0.6|2.6|0.2|0  |0.8|96  |110 |-14      |
|Omer Yurtseven   |2    |0    |0    |0    |0   |0.5|0.5|0  |0  |0.5|48  |113 |-65      |
|Udonis Haslem    |1    |0    |0    |0    |0   |0  |1  |0  |0  |0  |0   |105 |-105     |
+-----------------+-----+-----+-----+-----+----+---+---+---+---+---+----+----+---------+


[AirP.]

Miami is shooting 31% from 3pt range in the 2nd round after 5 games.

Game 1 - 33%
Game 2 - 35%
Game 3 - 22%
Game 4 - 33%
Game 5 - 30%

This team has been winning with its defense and getting those 50/50 balls, the 3s haven't been there all series, this is why the effort level seen in game 5 is such a big deal.