is Klay done?

[wco81]

Yeah let's scapegoat Klay.

Curry didn't shoot poorly the last two games or take an ill-advised 30 footer over AD at the end of game 4 or have a ton of turnovers.

It's ALL on Klay.

Lakers didn't get ticky tack fouls all series long, outscore the Warriors by 20 points or more on FTs in each of their 4 wins.

[vagelis]

Klay Thompson is clearly done.

The worst part is that Steve Kerr insist until the end to rely on him and set plays for him.

Thompson clearly has no self awareness and thinks he still is the guy.
The coach should stop him from shooting so much.

40 million for this production are paranoid money

[Hoopstar23]

Yeah let's scapegoat Klay.

Curry didn't shoot poorly the last two games or take an ill-advised 30 footer over AD at the end of game 4 or have a ton of turnovers.

It's ALL on Klay.

Lakers didn't get ticky tack fouls all series long, outscore the Warriors by 20 points or more on FTs in each of their 4 wins.

Klay was suppose to be that second option... AND HES MAKING 40 MILL A YEAR! AND HE PLAYED LIKE KEITH BOGANS TONIGHT

[wco81]

Yeah let's scapegoat Klay.

Curry didn't shoot poorly the last two games or take an ill-advised 30 footer over AD at the end of game 4 or have a ton of turnovers.

It's ALL on Klay.

Lakers didn't get ticky tack fouls all series long, outscore the Warriors by 20 points or more on FTs in each of their 4 wins.

Klay was suppose to be that second option... AND HES MAKING 40 MILL A YEAR! AND HE PLAYED LIKE KEITH BOGANS TONIGHT

And where would the Warriors have been when Klay carried the Warriors inFeb while Curry was out?

Oh, that's an inconvenient fact isn't it? Doesn't fit your narrative does it?

Fact of the matter is, this is a top-heavy roster and you live or die with those vets making big money.

Playing Moody instead of Klay would not have changed the results. For one thing, they'd have whistled Moody more for fouls than Klay.

Moody shot well because the Lakers loaded up on Steph and Klay, who took some contested shots while Moody often got clean looks.

Maybe one day he will prove to be a great shooter but that isn't proven yet.

So there was NO OTHER PLAYER on the roster to replace Klay with that would have gotten a different result. Warriors might have lost the series by even a greater margin. May not even have won game 2 when Klay scored 30.

[DonaldSanders]

Klay is a shell of who he was and is selfish at this point. It was obvious he didn't have it going tonight and he just kept shooting. We need to take him away from Steve because he just cannot stop playing Klay. No it's not all on Klay, but we're spending 43M next year for a guy who is at a backup level of value. If we're serious about going for a chip next year, we have to get some value from Klay.

[Hoopstar23]

Yeah let's scapegoat Klay.

Curry didn't shoot poorly the last two games or take an ill-advised 30 footer over AD at the end of game 4 or have a ton of turnovers.

It's ALL on Klay.

Lakers didn't get ticky tack fouls all series long, outscore the Warriors by 20 points or more on FTs in each of their 4 wins.

Klay was suppose to be that second option... AND HES MAKING 40 MILL A YEAR! AND HE PLAYED LIKE KEITH BOGANS TONIGHT

And where would the Warriors have been when Klay carried the Warriors inFeb while Curry was out?

Oh, that's an inconvenient fact isn't it? Doesn't fit your narrative does it?

Fact of the matter is, this is a top-heavy roster and you live or die with those vets making big money.

Playing Moody instead of Klay would not have changed the results. For one thing, they'd have whistled Moody more for fouls than Klay.

Moody shot well because the Lakers loaded up on Steph and Klay, who took some contested shots while Moody often got clean looks.

Maybe one day he will prove to be a great shooter but that isn't proven yet.

So there was NO OTHER PLAYER on the roster to replace Klay with that would have gotten a different result. Warriors might have lost the series by even a greater margin. May not even have won game 2 when Klay scored 30.

Where was that February Klay? he was needed tonight and played like Casper during the series... he's a MLE player at this point and by the time his contract is over he might be a vet minimum player... when you getting paid 40 mill a year and being that second option you going to face blame and he has to take that... too many times people like you cover for him when its clear as hell that he's **** washed and now has the audacity to ask for a max contract

[clyde21]

Klay doesn't have to be done if Klay understands who he is at this point

the problem is that he doesn't, and until he does, he's a negative asset and yes a liability.

[Admiral-Kizaru]

A klay who only takes 10-12 shots a game off the bench playing within the flow of the offense is still a decent player. But like Clyde said, blud thinks he's Kobe.

[DonaldSanders]

Klay doesn't have to be done if Klay understands who he is at this point

the problem is that he doesn't, and until he does, he's a negative asset and yes a liability.

Yup.

Steve needs to realize it as well. He's setting up Klay and the team for failure by giving him so many minutes. Moses really could have played a lot more and be further along. That's honestly my biggest complaint about Steve this year, he needed to be willing to make Klay come off the bench and let a young guy step up.

[Crazy-Canuck]

Klay doesn't have to be done if Klay understands who he is at this point

the problem is that he doesn't, and until he does, he's a negative asset and yes a liability.

It's not just klay, it's in kerr too fir enabling this.

Even at 40M, I'd be fine with klay if he played within himself.

Catch and shoot 3, move the ball, and give effort on defense. Be a tertiary scorer that can spread the floor and get fed the ball when on a heater.

[wco81]

Klay was suppose to be that second option... AND HES MAKING 40 MILL A YEAR! AND HE PLAYED LIKE KEITH BOGANS TONIGHT

And where would the Warriors have been when Klay carried the Warriors inFeb while Curry was out?

Oh, that's an inconvenient fact isn't it? Doesn't fit your narrative does it?

Fact of the matter is, this is a top-heavy roster and you live or die with those vets making big money.

Playing Moody instead of Klay would not have changed the results. For one thing, they'd have whistled Moody more for fouls than Klay.

Moody shot well because the Lakers loaded up on Steph and Klay, who took some contested shots while Moody often got clean looks.

Maybe one day he will prove to be a great shooter but that isn't proven yet.

So there was NO OTHER PLAYER on the roster to replace Klay with that would have gotten a different result. Warriors might have lost the series by even a greater margin. May not even have won game 2 when Klay scored 30.

Where was that February Klay? he was needed tonight and played like Casper during the series... he's a MLE player at this point and by the time his contract is over he might be a vet minimum player... when you getting paid 40 mill a year and being that second option you going to face blame and he has to take that... too many times people like you cover for him when its clear as hell that he's **** washed and now has the audacity to ask for a max contract

They might not even have been playing if not for him.

But yeah it's a make or miss league.

He still was as over 40% shooter from 3 on high volume.

I will bet you any money he doesn't sign a vet minimum contract next, whether with the Warriors or any other team.

Talk about stupid takes.

[CDM_Stats]

Klay doesn't have to be done if Klay understands who he is at this point

the problem is that he doesn't, and until he does, he's a negative asset and yes a liability.

It's not just klay, it's in kerr too fir enabling this.

Even at 40M, I'd be fine with klay if he played within himself.

Catch and shoot 3, move the ball, and give effort on defense. Be a tertiary scorer that can spread the floor and get fed the ball when on a heater.

Klay can still provide a ton of value. Teams will always scramble to him when he gets the slightest bit of daylight and he's one of the best off-ball runners in the league, even after injury

The problem is simple IMO: no dribbling. Don't give it to him in a spot where has to dribble, and frankly only give him the ball when he's open or the SC is winding down. I get that we want Klay to play smarter, but this is the frog and the scorpion ****. You know what he's gonna do, we can't keep being surprised by it. The team has to adjust to it too. Don't ever run him on the PnRs and don't cycle it to him when the offense stagnates

[Hoopstar23]

And where would the Warriors have been when Klay carried the Warriors inFeb while Curry was out?

Oh, that's an inconvenient fact isn't it? Doesn't fit your narrative does it?

Fact of the matter is, this is a top-heavy roster and you live or die with those vets making big money.

Playing Moody instead of Klay would not have changed the results. For one thing, they'd have whistled Moody more for fouls than Klay.

Moody shot well because the Lakers loaded up on Steph and Klay, who took some contested shots while Moody often got clean looks.

Maybe one day he will prove to be a great shooter but that isn't proven yet.

So there was NO OTHER PLAYER on the roster to replace Klay with that would have gotten a different result. Warriors might have lost the series by even a greater margin. May not even have won game 2 when Klay scored 30.

Where was that February Klay? he was needed tonight and played like Casper during the series... he's a MLE player at this point and by the time his contract is over he might be a vet minimum player... when you getting paid 40 mill a year and being that second option you going to face blame and he has to take that... too many times people like you cover for him when its clear as hell that he's **** washed and now has the audacity to ask for a max contract

They might not even have been playing if not for him.

But yeah it's a make or miss league.

He still was as over 40% shooter from 3 on high volume.

I will bet you any money he doesn't sign a vet minimum contract next, whether with the Warriors or any other team.

Talk about stupid takes.

he's declining at a really fast rate so its not far-fetched to see him get to vet minimum status... anyone signing 35-year-old Klay and putting him as a starter is gonna be severely disappointed

[Hoopstar23]

Klay doesn't have to be done if Klay understands who he is at this point

the problem is that he doesn't, and until he does, he's a negative asset and yes a liability.

It's not just klay, it's in kerr too fir enabling this.

Even at 40M, I'd be fine with klay if he played within himself.

Catch and shoot 3, move the ball, and give effort on defense. Be a tertiary scorer that can spread the floor and get fed the ball when on a heater.

Klay can still provide a ton of value. Teams will always scramble to him when he gets the slightest bit of daylight and he's one of the best off-ball runners in the league, even after injury

The problem is simple IMO: no dribbling. Don't give it to him in a spot where has to dribble, and frankly only give him the ball when he's open or the SC is winding down. I get that we want Klay to play smarter, but this is the frog and the scorpion ****. You know what he's gonna do, we can't keep being surprised by it. The team has to adjust to it too. Don't ever run him on the PnRs and don't cycle it to him when the offense stagnates

Austin Reeves abused Klay Thompson all series

[wco81]

A klay who only takes 10-12 shots a game off the bench playing within the flow of the offense is still a decent player. But like Clyde said, blud thinks he's Kobe.

Maybe you haven't been here long enough. Clyde has been a Klay hater for years.

He advocated trading him while Klay was still on his rookie deal or early in his second deal.

Klay had his big playoffs games afterwards, because I doubt even he would have suggested the Warriors trade him after Klay won big games for the franchise.

Now that he's down, older and after two major injuries, he's reveling in kicking Klay while he's down.

[CDM_Stats]

It's not just klay, it's in kerr too fir enabling this.

Even at 40M, I'd be fine with klay if he played within himself.

Catch and shoot 3, move the ball, and give effort on defense. Be a tertiary scorer that can spread the floor and get fed the ball when on a heater.

Klay can still provide a ton of value. Teams will always scramble to him when he gets the slightest bit of daylight and he's one of the best off-ball runners in the league, even after injury

The problem is simple IMO: no dribbling. Don't give it to him in a spot where has to dribble, and frankly only give him the ball when he's open or the SC is winding down. I get that we want Klay to play smarter, but this is the frog and the scorpion ****. You know what he's gonna do, we can't keep being surprised by it. The team has to adjust to it too. Don't ever run him on the PnRs and don't cycle it to him when the offense stagnates

Austin Reeves abused Klay Thompson all series

Austin Reaves is a good basketball player and that has absolutely nothing to do with what I'm saying

[Admiral-Kizaru]

A klay who only takes 10-12 shots a game off the bench playing within the flow of the offense is still a decent player. But like Clyde said, blud thinks he's Kobe.

Maybe you haven't been here long enough. Clyde has been a Klay hater for years.

He advocated trading him while Klay was still on his rookie deal or early in his second deal.

Klay had his big playoffs games afterwards, because I doubt even he would have suggested the Warriors trade him after Klay won big games for the franchise.

Now that he's down, older and after two major injuries, he's reveling in kicking Klay while he's down.

Well, now, I think it's more of a Trade him if he doesn't take a pay cut and take a more reasonable role on the team. He shouldn't be getting 18 shots a game anymore.

[Hoopstar23]

Klay can still provide a ton of value. Teams will always scramble to him when he gets the slightest bit of daylight and he's one of the best off-ball runners in the league, even after injury

The problem is simple IMO: no dribbling. Don't give it to him in a spot where has to dribble, and frankly only give him the ball when he's open or the SC is winding down. I get that we want Klay to play smarter, but this is the frog and the scorpion ****. You know what he's gonna do, we can't keep being surprised by it. The team has to adjust to it too. Don't ever run him on the PnRs and don't cycle it to him when the offense stagnates

Austin Reeves abused Klay Thompson all series

Austin Reaves is a good basketball player and that has absolutely nothing to do with what I'm saying

Klay cant play defense and that's a huge problem... if he wasn't shooting well and jacking shots but playing defense... we still might have won the series... but he's a negative out there...

[CDM_Stats]

Austin Reeves abused Klay Thompson all series

Austin Reaves is a good basketball player and that has absolutely nothing to do with what I'm saying

Klay cant play defense and that's a huge problem... if he wasn't shooting well and jacking shots but playing defense... we still might have won the series... but he's a negative out there...

Klay's defense is average most of the time but if you're suggesting that only bad defenders would let Reaves play well, then you're a year behind on Reaves. He's good.

Also Klay's defense in terms of tracking spikes when playing next to Wiggins, and is crushed playing next to Poole. He's not going to be great, but most of the guards who are noticeable pluses on defense (especially SGs) are typically losing most of the value they provide on the other side of the court.

It doesnt really matter, he's starting next year. Its just not as dire as people want to make it. The team plays within their stars limitations all the time - Curry is hidden/rested on D, Draymond and Looney aren't asked to be consistent scorers.. so they need to treat Klay's serial shooting in the same regard. They did that way better years ago, when Klay would have single digit dribbles per game

[Upperclass]

So its not on Klay.. but it is on Poole and Curry?