Around NBA and season prediction seeding wise.

[GTR11]

Doc giving Saltics every chance to win by playing Tucker. Yet Biid playing good.

I think Philly figured the Celtics out; I would not mind seeing the Celtics lose because it would just solidfy that after seven seasons, JT/JB is not going to work. JB needs his own team; why not come to Brooklyn and dominate? That JB expiring will look good.

Depending on what lens you look at, we held Philly to lower points; the O just wasn't clicking and we need a 1-2 scoring punch. Perhaps, just perhaps, we do end up getting that this Summer, that should fix our O.

I'm not sure why would you say JB/JT tendom is a faild experiment unless we talking cap repercussions. Even than we have to see how Brad going to construct team around them. Compared to others I still believe they will have upper hand if we being 100.

Now if we talking about Brown wanting his own team it's another story here. Since he from down South and entertaining options in ATL/Miami, I think those teams will be problem too.

Will Marks try to trade for Brown, of course he will. Most likely doing it as we watching PO. We got 4th most assets around league according to Bob. Will we get him or the front runner, I highly doubt it.

I think NOP is a dark horse everyone sleeping on. IF AND THAT'S A BIG IF, signs up for that trade. Than NOP is clear cut favorite to get him. Langdon is that G'd up.

To be honest, I haven't followed JB situation at all since I'm not a fan of his. Will be good/OK move for my perspective. I still think he is a 2nd wheel and is beneficiary of Tatum/Saltics organization. While we need a 1A guy who can carry a team and close.

[gigantes]

Doc giving Saltics every chance to win by playing Tucker. Yet Biid playing good.

I think Philly figured the Celtics out; I would not mind seeing the Celtics lose because it would just solidfy that after seven seasons, JT/JB is not going to work. JB needs his own team; why not come to Brooklyn and dominate? That JB expiring will look good.

Depending on what lens you look at, we held Philly to lower points; the O just wasn't clicking and we need a 1-2 scoring punch. Perhaps, just perhaps, we do end up getting that this Summer, that should fix our O.

I'm not sure why would you say JB/JT tendom is a faild experiment unless we talking cap repercussions. Even than we have to see how Brad going to construct team around them. Compared to others I still believe they will have upper hand if we being 100.

Yeah, I understand that ambition-wise, the Jays have been coming up short for a long time now, but let's not forget that they're still so dang young, not even in their primes, yet.

Brad (or was it Ainge?) did some good things with his surplus of picks, but the Celts also wasted precious draft capital on Kyrie Irving and drastically overpaid Gordon Hayward, isn't that right? Also, Udoka seemed like a great coach for them, and I'm not convinced that Joe Muzzulla is on the same level.

Nothing you can do about Udoka I guess, altho suspending him for a year would arguably have been the smarter move. I mean, I'm a fan of the #MeToo movement, but when you nip these things in the bud and publicly bring a person to account, I suspect there's a much better chance of changing their behavior than if you handle it like Joe Paterno of Penn State handled the child-predator Sandusky, or how various show-runners over the years handled Bill Cosby, in both cases pretty much enabling their sh-tty crimes.

OTOH, spending draft capital on such a known airhead as Kyrie Irving, and throwing a huge payday towards Gordon Hayward, arguably being a product of a system, were arguably some other misfires.

Point is-- if the Sixers do finish them off, I'm not convinced the Celts need to be broken up, unless of course Brown puts his foot down. I don't agree on much with him, but Boston being a racist, mean-spirited town definitely be a legit argument to want out IMO.

[gigantes]

I kinda like the Suns, and now that they're getting picked apart, I'm not sure how to feel about it. That said, I also love Jokic & Brown, and certainly won't be unhappy if DEN wins.

You know, I have very little bad blood towards Kevin Durant. He's definitely not a leader, and has little loyalty to anything but himself, but say what you want, he kicked booty while in a Nets uniform. He did is fundamental job in a Nets uni, and arguably had the greatest injury-comeback in league history, in which most folks seemed to be happy (before his comeback) with the idea that KD might simply be 80% of what he once was.

And THEN dude goes out there and just blows all of the pessimism out of the water.
Damn, if only his complete nincompoop of a teammate had held up their end of the bargain, right?

Still, aesthetically, I can't say that I like these current Suns very much. Their passing-system just sucks, and they mainly just rely on their two stars having efficient ISO games in order to win. Healthy CP3 or not, it seems like their experiment is winding down, and the loss of CamJ & Mikal has been straight-devastating to their D & their depth.

Now, I'm definitely onboard with the "LeGM" cutting down on the number of titles LeBron has won. At the same time, I have to think Durant's relentless wanderlust has cut down on Kevin's titles, too. FWIW, anyway. I think we just need a nickname for KD's restlessness...

[NetsWorld]

I kinda like the Suns, and now that they're getting picked apart, I'm not sure how to feel about it. That said, I also love Jokic & Brown, and certainly won't be unhappy if DEN wins.

You know, I have very little bad blood towards Kevin Durant. He's definitely not a leader, and has little loyalty to anything but himself, but say what you want, he kicked booty while in a Nets uniform. He did is fundamental job in a Nets uni, and arguably had the greatest injury-comeback in league history, in which most folks seemed to be happy (before his comeback) with the idea that KD might simply be 80% of what he once was.

And THEN dude goes out there and just blows all of the pessimism out of the water.
Damn, if only his complete nincompoop of a teammate had held up their end of the bargain, right?

Still, aesthetically, I can't say that I like these current Suns very much. Their passing-system just sucks, and they mainly just rely on their two stars having efficient ISO games in order to win. Healthy CP3 or not, it seems like their experiment is winding down, and the loss of CamJ & Mikal has been straight-devastating to their D & their depth.

Now, I'm definitely onboard with the "LeGM" cutting down on the number of titles LeBron has won. At the same time, I have to think Durant's relentless wanderlust has cut down on Kevin's titles, too. FWIW, anyway. I think we just need a nickname for KD's restlessness...

The Suns were never a juggernaut; KD’s hope was that the Suns would emulate the 20-21 Nets and KD just didn’t realize he didn’t have a 29 year old Kyrie or 31 year old plus KD was 32 himself. He wasn’t getting a juggernaut because CP3 is old. Suns need another young efficient scorer to emulate those Nets and hopefully it never happens.

[Shark]

Still early, but KD has been invisible so far. Lack agression for most of the quarter. Obviously not having had much time with the team is probably affecting his play, but i also wonder if he's thinking about how badly he tried to force things last year against the Celtics and he's overcompensating by not forcing the issue.

[MrMiyagi]

Enjoy your bundle of Lottery Picks, fellas.

[Karate Diop]

It's kind of funny that KD and Kyrie had a better chance of winning it all had they just stuck together on the Nets... Sometimes the grass isn't greener on the other side (ditto for Harden as well if we're going to be honest... had those three just sucked it up and made it work they'd have been title favorites for sure).

[sashaturiaf]

Nets future looking a lot brighter after tonight, what a meltdown by the Suns. Ayton is a few better outfits away from turning into Ben SImmons.

[Eatgreenz]

Will never understand what KD saw in going to the Suns. No depth old cp and Ayton is pathetic and soft

[gigantes]

Enjoy your bundle of Lottery Picks, fellas.

You guys were in a tough situation, though.
I can respect making a big swing for the fences before the window closed.

But usually these things don't work out, and seems like a lot of times, that comes down to rookie owners.
Still, sometimes it's worth a shot considering the alternative. :/

[GTR11]

Y'all see AD?

That's why Nic Claxton is a big time player for us.

[GTR11]

Will never understand what KD saw in going to the Suns. No depth old cp and Ayton is pathetic and soft

I wondered the same.

If he ever wanted to get into LBJ debate, he needed to maximize everything here.

If he wanted a ring... Saltics trade made most sense. Him, Tatum and that team would've been undisputed favorite vs any team out there.

[Eatgreenz]

Will never understand what KD saw in going to the Suns. No depth old cp and Ayton is pathetic and soft

I wondered the same.

If he ever wanted to get into LBJ debate, he needed to maximize everything here.

If he wanted a ring... Saltics trade made most sense. Him, Tatum and that team would've been undisputed favorite vs any team out there.

I think someone said it earlier in the thread he must of been trying to recreate the 2021 Nets. With cp3 playing the harden role, but KD being KD only saw the name on the jersey and didnt see that cp3 is 38yrs now not 28yrs.Plus KD has this super obsession over the bucket getters player type and Booker is that to a T. You know how KD loves his iso's

[GTR11]

Will never understand what KD saw in going to the Suns. No depth old cp and Ayton is pathetic and soft

I wondered the same.

If he ever wanted to get into LBJ debate, he needed to maximize everything here.

If he wanted a ring... Saltics trade made most sense. Him, Tatum and that team would've been undisputed favorite vs any team out there.

I think someone said it earlier in the thread he must of been trying to recreate the 2021 Nets. With cp3 playing the harden role, but KD being KD only saw the name on the jersey and didnt see that cp3 is 38yrs now not 28yrs.Plus KD has this super obsession over the bucket getters player type and Booker is that to a T. You know how KD loves his iso's

Tells us why you don't let players run decision making. Huge issue we got with Marks here. His player friendly environment gets out of hand.

That's without me mentioning Owner involvement.

You hire people for a REASON!!!

[Eatgreenz]

I wondered the same.

If he ever wanted to get into LBJ debate, he needed to maximize everything here.

If he wanted a ring... Saltics trade made most sense. Him, Tatum and that team would've been undisputed favorite vs any team out there.

I think someone said it earlier in the thread he must of been trying to recreate the 2021 Nets. With cp3 playing the harden role, but KD being KD only saw the name on the jersey and didnt see that cp3 is 38yrs now not 28yrs.Plus KD has this super obsession over the bucket getters player type and Booker is that to a T. You know how KD loves his iso's

Tells us why you don't let players run decision making. Huge issue we got with Marks here. His player friendly environment gets out of hand.

That's without me mentioning Owner involvement.

You hire people for a REASON!!!

Yep, lets see how this 2nd phase goes from the presser Marks sounded like his learned from this experience so will see.

[GTR11]

I think someone said it earlier in the thread he must of been trying to recreate the 2021 Nets. With cp3 playing the harden role, but KD being KD only saw the name on the jersey and didnt see that cp3 is 38yrs now not 28yrs.Plus KD has this super obsession over the bucket getters player type and Booker is that to a T. You know how KD loves his iso's

Tells us why you don't let players run decision making. Huge issue we got with Marks here. His player friendly environment gets out of hand.

That's without me mentioning Owner involvement.

You hire people for a REASON!!!

Yep, lets see how this 2nd phase goes from the presser Marks sounded like his learned from this experience so will see.

In today's day and age we see things. Later maybe, but it's not only about executing, it's about controlling it as well.

After what we have witnessed. I got my doubts about Marks. He needs to prove us wrong. He gives me no good vibes right now. I'm not MDB and will never jump ship. But I'll be damned if I won't say my due. JV extension? That alone makes me want to turn on him regardless of what he did before!!!

[GTR11]

I think Philly figured the Celtics out; I would not mind seeing the Celtics lose because it would just solidfy that after seven seasons, JT/JB is not going to work. JB needs his own team; why not come to Brooklyn and dominate? That JB expiring will look good.

Depending on what lens you look at, we held Philly to lower points; the O just wasn't clicking and we need a 1-2 scoring punch. Perhaps, just perhaps, we do end up getting that this Summer, that should fix our O.

I'm not sure why would you say JB/JT tendom is a faild experiment unless we talking cap repercussions. Even than we have to see how Brad going to construct team around them. Compared to others I still believe they will have upper hand if we being 100.

Yeah, I understand that ambition-wise, the Jays have been coming up short for a long time now, but let's not forget that they're still so dang young, not even in their primes, yet.

Brad (or was it Ainge?) did some good things with his surplus of picks, but the Celts also wasted precious draft capital on Kyrie Irving and drastically overpaid Gordon Hayward, isn't that right? Also, Udoka seemed like a great coach for them, and I'm not convinced that Joe Muzzulla is on the same level.

Nothing you can do about Udoka I guess, altho suspending him for a year would arguably have been the smarter move. I mean, I'm a fan of the #MeToo movement, but when you nip these things in the bud and publicly bring a person to account, I suspect there's a much better chance of changing their behavior than if you handle it like Joe Paterno of Penn State handled the child-predator Sandusky, or how various show-runners over the years handled Bill Cosby, in both cases pretty much enabling their sh-tty crimes.

OTOH, spending draft capital on such a known airhead as Kyrie Irving, and throwing a huge payday towards Gordon Hayward, arguably being a product of a system, were arguably some other misfires.

Point is-- if the Sixers do finish them off, I'm not convinced the Celts need to be broken up, unless of course Brown puts his foot down. I don't agree on much with him, but Boston being a racist, mean-spirited town definitely be a legit argument to want out IMO.

Points taken.

[CalamityX12]

Monty out as coach

Thats messed up

[NetsWorld]

Monty out as coach

Thats messed up

KD gets another coach fired KD never takes accountability.

[CalamityX12]

Monty out as coach

Thats messed up

KD gets another coach fired KD never takes accountability.

Silently thought the same thing lol

I mean wow.