Summer 2023 Trade Thread

[Norm2953]

If Ayton puts up 18 and 10 while playing solid defense and playing 65+ games I will take that for the Blazers. I like Simons but this Blazers team needs size and Ayton gives us that. So unless the lotto balls give us Wemby I would trade Simons and a little filler for Ayton and then draft Jarace Walker or Taylor Hendricks ( Whitmore 3rd choice). Re-sign Eubanks and try to or some other experienced big man such as Andre Drummond for depth. Personally I am a little tired of having almost no NBA quality bigs on the roster with those we do have missing significant time during the season.

If Ayton is putting up your numbers, somebody amongst Dame, Grant and Sharpe is getting less looks at the basket.
It won't be Dame for he's the PG, so its likely Grant or Sharpe who will be the fourth option and I'd bet its Sharpe
who ends up a spectator in his second season.

[DusterBuster]

With Williams being fired, I think the Suns keep Ayton. Those two had bad issues. Not impossible, but think unlikely.

Ant Edwards and Rudy working out in France this summer and seem to be talking about each other like besties… meanwhile neither making a single mention of Towns. KAT also was just on a podcast complaining about Minnesota broadcasters and fans giving him a stupid nickname.

All that to say, I’ll be shocked if KAT is still on the Timberwolves next year… I’ll be shocked, but slightly less so, if KAT is a Blazer next year.

[Norm2953]

What do you think a KAT trade to Portland would look like?

[DaVoiceMaster]

I have never been as Towns fan. They guy has never elevated his team and hasn't lived up to the hype.

[DusterBuster]

I have never been as Towns fan. They guy has never elevated his team and hasn't lived up to the hype.

Yeah, super up and down, plus not a defender and injury prone. He complained about the Rudy trade in that pod too, saying he wasnt given any notice and learned he wouldn’t ever play C again until seeing tweets about the trade.

That said, if the Blazers are 3-8 pick range… that pick and another FRP, plus Simons and Nurkic?

Dame
Sharpe
Thybulle
Grant
KAT

Is that a thing?

[m0ng0]

I have never been as Towns fan. They guy has never elevated his team and hasn't lived up to the hype.

Yeah, super up and down, plus not a defender and injury prone. He complained about the Rudy trade in that pod too, saying he wasnt given any notice and learned he wouldn’t ever play C again until seeing tweets about the trade.

That said, if the Blazers are 3-8 pick range… that pick and another FRP, plus Simons and Nurkic?

Dame
Sharpe
Thybulle
Grant
KAT

Is that a thing?

I hope not! I'm not a fan of Towns and Grant can go pound sand also. I'm so hoping for a homegrown (drafted) team I can root for. I guess I'm just a grumpy old man screaming at the clouds, but I really hate this plug and play world we live in. It's like fantasy basketball gone terribly wrong.

[GEE]

I have never been as Towns fan. They guy has never elevated his team and hasn't lived up to the hype.

Yeah, super up and down, plus not a defender and injury prone. He complained about the Rudy trade in that pod too, saying he wasnt given any notice and learned he wouldn’t ever play C again until seeing tweets about the trade.

That said, if the Blazers are 3-8 pick range… that pick and another FRP, plus Simons and Nurkic?

Dame
Sharpe
Thybulle
Grant
KAT

Is that a thing?

I hope not! I'm not a fan of Towns and Grant can go pound sand also. I'm so hoping for a homegrown (drafted) team I can root for. I guess I'm just a grumpy old man screaming at the clouds, but I really hate this plug and play world we live in. It's like fantasy basketball gone terribly wrong.

I'm with you there and I think there are more of us, just that most are readers and not posters, avoiding the potential conflict from doing so. Are ya feelin' lucky? 2 more days and that home-grown team could be had by the grace of the NBA Gods. Our Karma should win the day, and we will instantly become the talk of the league, with some mega-hype going forward with Simons / Sharpe / Wemby !!!

And KAT... Easy Pass. Sexy as can be, but dummer than the Ayton move and for the same reasons. While I believe that improving from last year's Nurkic/Winslow pairing is the priority... I'd rather hope we could return a fully recovered/healthy Winslow and a Rebuilt Nurkic (-25 lbs) in PRIME shape at 265 lbs... than go after KAT.

Won't matter anyway, once we land the #1.

[DusterBuster]

Yeah, super up and down, plus not a defender and injury prone. He complained about the Rudy trade in that pod too, saying he wasnt given any notice and learned he wouldn’t ever play C again until seeing tweets about the trade.

That said, if the Blazers are 3-8 pick range… that pick and another FRP, plus Simons and Nurkic?

Dame
Sharpe
Thybulle
Grant
KAT

Is that a thing?

I hope not! I'm not a fan of Towns and Grant can go pound sand also. I'm so hoping for a homegrown (drafted) team I can root for. I guess I'm just a grumpy old man screaming at the clouds, but I really hate this plug and play world we live in. It's like fantasy basketball gone terribly wrong.

I'm with you there and I think there are more of us, just that most are readers and not posters, avoiding the potential conflict from doing so. Are ya feelin' lucky? 2 more days and that home-grown team could be had by the grace of the NBA Gods. Our Karma should win the day, and we will instantly become the talk of the league, with some mega-hype going forward with Simons / Sharpe / Wemby !!!

And KAT... Easy Pass. Sexy as can be, but dummer than the Ayton move and for the same reasons. While I believe that improving from last year's Nurkic/Winslow pairing is the priority... I'd rather hope we could return a fully recovered/healthy Winslow and a Rebuilt Nurkic (-25 lbs) in PRIME shape at 265 lbs... than go after KAT.

Won't matter anyway, once we land the #1.

I’m not advocating that deal and I agree with you personally, but it’s something I think the Blazers would actually do if they don’t land #1.

[zzaj]

Feeling sad for Grizz fans, currently. Must be hard to see your uber-talented face of the franchise flaming because of nothing more than stupidity. Blazers have had plenty of issues, but we’re lucky to have not had to deal with the live stream era.

[red_power]

Oh yeah, imagine how the jail blazers squad would flash these days

[GEE]

I hope not! I'm not a fan of Towns and Grant can go pound sand also. I'm so hoping for a homegrown (drafted) team I can root for. I guess I'm just a grumpy old man screaming at the clouds, but I really hate this plug and play world we live in. It's like fantasy basketball gone terribly wrong.

I'm with you there and I think there are more of us, just that most are readers and not posters, avoiding the potential conflict from doing so. Are ya feelin' lucky? 2 more days and that home-grown team could be had by the grace of the NBA Gods. Our Karma should win the day, and we will instantly become the talk of the league, with some mega-hype going forward with Simons / Sharpe / Wemby !!!

And KAT... Easy Pass. Sexy as can be, but dummer than the Ayton move and for the same reasons. While I believe that improving from last year's Nurkic/Winslow pairing is the priority... I'd rather hope we could return a fully recovered/healthy Winslow and a Rebuilt Nurkic (-25 lbs) in PRIME shape at 265 lbs... than go after KAT.

Won't matter anyway, once we land the #1.

I’m not advocating that deal and I agree with you personally, but it’s something I think the Blazers would actually do if they don’t land #1.

DB, What do you mean by "if"? That's not the kind of attitude, or Karma I'm looking for. But seriously... If we don't get the #1 (knocks on wood), my first effort would be trying to trade it to the Hornets for M.Williams. Dreaming again yes, but I would try to find out just what it would take for Jordan to let him go. How much of an overpay in picks are we talking? I'd start with Little and our FRP whatever it ends up being and immediately be willing to offer up the NYK as well. That's gotta be close! Worry about Chicago next year.

Just my favorite target and others have theirs, and trusting Cronin has his. Still holding out for that #1, but the higher the pick, the less we'd need to add to get THE GUY, to add to Simons and Sharpe. Dame can stay as long as he likes, or go whenever he wants.

[Case2012]

Turner is still only 18 million next year before going up to 30 the 2 seasons after that. I would go after Turner hard. I wanted him last year as well as Randle who made third team again (no one says he was a needle mover but he clearly was). He does a little of everything, he's 6'8 265 and a real pf that can play in the paint or shoot, and would benefit mentally playing in a smaller market with Loyal fans and a true leader in Dame.


I think both are acquirable and are also reportedly best friends and locked up to reasonable deals the next 3 years. A sign and trade of Grant for Randle would be ideal imo. New York is ready to move off him and I think Grant would fit nicely next to brunson and would welcome playing in a big market finally. Then trade for our pick back and give indy Nurkic and any of our young players not named Sharpe up for him plus 2 firsts.

Also, we would still have Simons and our lottery pick to improve another position. Sharpe, Simons and our pick if it's anything other than 1 would be great for Brown if he's still looking to change teams. If we land the number 1 we could offer that same deal for Giannis if he decides he wants to play with Dame.

Dame
Thybulle
Brown
Randle
Turner

OR

Dame
Thybulle
Giannis
Randle
Turner.

We would have to sign the rest of the roster to vet minimum deals but the trades all work financially. Brown is more realistic imo but Giannis could decide he wants out and that package would be hard to beat.

[Norm2953]

What does this board think of the Emblid talk on the trade board?

Sharpe. Simons, Nurk + picks for Emblid?

I would wonder if what's left in Portland would be enough to survive an 82 game season
and the playoffs, for we all saw what happened to Phoenix after sacrificing their picks +
depth to get KD

[m0ng0]

Oh yeah, imagine how the jail blazers squad would flash these days

I laughed

[m0ng0]

What does this board think of the Emblid talk on the trade board?

Sharpe. Simons, Nurk + picks for Emblid?

I would wonder if what's left in Portland would be enough to survive an 82 game season
and the playoffs, for we all saw what happened to Phoenix after sacrificing their picks +
depth to get KD

Not me

[Jsun947]

What does this board think of the Emblid talk on the trade board?

Sharpe. Simons, Nurk + picks for Emblid?

I would wonder if what's left in Portland would be enough to survive an 82 game season
and the playoffs, for we all saw what happened to Phoenix after sacrificing their picks +
depth to get KD

Not me

I keep wondering why a team with core talent of Dame, Embiid, Grant, zero picks, and nobody is obviously better than a team of Harden, Embiid, Maxey, Harris, and good role players?

An Embiid trade is definitely dependent on how many assets we can keep, and when you are trading for the MVP the answer is like zero.

[DusterBuster]

What does this board think of the Emblid talk on the trade board?

Sharpe. Simons, Nurk + picks for Emblid?

I would wonder if what's left in Portland would be enough to survive an 82 game season
and the playoffs, for we all saw what happened to Phoenix after sacrificing their picks +
depth to get KD

Not me

I keep wondering why a team with core talent of Dame, Embiid, Grant, zero picks, and nobody is obviously better than a team of Harden, Embiid, Maxey, Harris, and good role players?

An Embiid trade is definitely dependent on how many assets we can keep, and when you are trading for the MVP the answer is like zero.

Dame is infinitely better than Harden. Dame isn't a consistent no-show in big moments that would rather be partying in Vegas mid-series like Harden... and while the book is out on Chauncey coaching in big moments / series, the book about Doc is WELLL written that no 3 win lead is every safe with him as HC.

I hear your point, but at the end of the day, you need to make the deal and fix the holes that creates later. You don't get chances at current MVP players ever. So if for any reason that is on the table, you do it and figure out the other problems it creates later.

[Jsun947]

Not me

I keep wondering why a team with core talent of Dame, Embiid, Grant, zero picks, and nobody is obviously better than a team of Harden, Embiid, Maxey, Harris, and good role players?

An Embiid trade is definitely dependent on how many assets we can keep, and when you are trading for the MVP the answer is like zero.

Dame is infinitely better than Harden. Dame isn't a consistent no-show in big moments that would rather be partying in Vegas mid-series like Harden... and while the book is out on Chauncey coaching in big moments / series, the book about Doc is WELLL written that no 3 win lead is every safe with him as HC.

I hear your point, but at the end of the day, you need to make the deal and fix the holes that creates later. You don't get chances at current MVP players ever. So if for any reason that is on the table, you do it and figure out the other problems it creates later.

If we had to trade Simons, Nurkic, Sharpe, 23 (#2-#9), relieve our obligation to Chicago and add our 25, 27, 29 picks then we have nothing left to fill our roster. We’d also be capped out under a very punitive CBA moving forward.

We’d be forced to bring back all our FAs to attempt to have a legit team, Grant, Eubanks, Reddish, Thybulle, Knox, and Winslow. If these are your 4th-9th best guys when healthy you aren’t going anywhere.

It’s not like Embiid and Dame are young and healthy so you have 5 years to figure it out like Boston did with Brown & Tatum

[DusterBuster]

I keep wondering why a team with core talent of Dame, Embiid, Grant, zero picks, and nobody is obviously better than a team of Harden, Embiid, Maxey, Harris, and good role players?

An Embiid trade is definitely dependent on how many assets we can keep, and when you are trading for the MVP the answer is like zero.

Dame is infinitely better than Harden. Dame isn't a consistent no-show in big moments that would rather be partying in Vegas mid-series like Harden... and while the book is out on Chauncey coaching in big moments / series, the book about Doc is WELLL written that no 3 win lead is every safe with him as HC.

I hear your point, but at the end of the day, you need to make the deal and fix the holes that creates later. You don't get chances at current MVP players ever. So if for any reason that is on the table, you do it and figure out the other problems it creates later.

If we had to trade Simons, Nurkic, Sharpe, 23 (#2-#9), relieve our obligation to Chicago and add our 25, 27, 29 picks then we have nothing left to fill our roster. We’d also be capped out under a very punitive CBA moving forward.

We’d be forced to bring back all our FAs to attempt to have a legit team, Grant, Eubanks, Reddish, Thybulle, Knox, and Winslow. If these are your 4th-9th best guys when healthy you aren’t going anywhere.

I think you're underrating what the Blazers group could do with Dame and Embiid spearheading it. The West is pretty wide open still as well. You'd also get some coat-tail guys... there's plenty of reasons to not be as pessimistic as you're being.

But you're not wrong, the team would be pretty handicapped with additional trade possibilities. Happens with every team who makes this type of trade, that's just part of the deal. You can't do an "all-in trade" and still have assets left over to play with. Just not how it works. You do the trade to pair Dame and Embiid, then work with the leftovers to do what you can. Usually that makes lower-level deals like what the Lakers have had to do, decent drafting in the 2nd round, maybe buying 1st rounders, etc, then getting guys on the buyout market mid season like the Clippers and other teams who've done all-in deals do.

It certainly hampers flexibility in a real way, but the team would not be locked into never making another move like you're making it out to be.

[zzaj]

It’s not like Embiid and Dame are young and healthy so you have 5 years to figure it out like Boston did with Brown & Tatum

This is the thing for me. With how the Blazers are set up a big two of Lillard/Embiid isn't going to win a championship, and given the state of the roster otherwise, isn't going to even get close.

If Lillard and Embiid were younger, it'd be something to consider--opportunities to have an MVP don't happen in Portland very often.

Otherwise? I just don't really want to root for Embiid.