Who should/will be new Sixers coach?

[Wilfried]

It has to be someone who will hold Joel accountable

[Jailblazers7]

It has to be someone who will hold Joel accountable

Probably gonna need a new GM for that to happen. Morey is gonna coddle Harden & Embiid until they’re all run out of town.

[FireMorey]

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[Embiid P]

Cassell would be my first choice. I know he's never been a head coach before but as a former player who has the respect of the team and doesn't appear to be as soft as Doc, I think he could get through to Embiid and Harden and needless to say, Maxey loves him FWIW.

That said, I think it's going to be one of MDA, Nurse or Bud.

[Arsenal]

If people don't like Vogel because he's only a defensive guy, i don't see why you would like Nurse.......Has someone see the Raptors Offfense with Nurse at the helm?

Yeah, they have zero offensive talent yet he finds ways to win. When he had Kawhi they won the title. The year after when Kawhi walked and they were left with washed Lowry and Siakam he led them to the #2 seed and almost knocked off Boston in the playoffs.

He's never had offensive talent even close to what he'd have here.

[Magicman125]

If people don't like Vogel because he's only a defensive guy, i don't see why you would like Nurse.......Has someone see the Raptors Offfense with Nurse at the helm?

Yeah, they have zero offensive talent yet he finds ways to win. When he had Kawhi they won the title. The year after when Kawhi walked and they were left with washed Lowry and Siakam he led them to the #2 seed and almost knocked off Boston in the playoffs.

He's never had offensive talent even close to what he'd have here.

The 2019 team looked pretty good on offense even in the games Kawhi would sit out for load management from what I remember. Really utilized Marc Gasol's playmaking from the 5, had the athletic wings slashing and setting screens all over the place off ball, Ibaka was still an okay floor spacer and rebounder at the time at the 4 too. Had a nice lineup for small ball with Ibaka at the 5.

His offense looked bad when he had 4 starters who were average at best shooters these past two years, but that's on Masai's roster construction imo.

[Ferry Avenue]

What kind of organization gives players who don't show up for a game seven in the round of the playoffs in which they always lose the power to determine the head coach?

You would think those players showed up big time and the loss was attributable to coaching. Where is this organization's head? Is it not able to perceive the objective reality right in front of it?

If Harden and Embiid experience this situation in such a way that they believe they had the power in getting Rivers ousted and determining the future coach, this team culture will get even worse.

You think Embiid is coddled now? Wait till the new coach believes Embiid had to sign off on him.

So you're saying that Doc doesn't deserve any of the blame? He definitely doesn't deserve all of it, but he should get some. The fact is we need some new energy with this team. I think Harden went behind closed doors and gave an ultimatum about Rivers. Harden knows that we need him and that if he were to leave, then Embiid would eventually leave too and a rebuild would be on the horizon. There's a part of me that feels like Harden manipulated this to an extent because he wants one more bag before retiring. Harden has deflected his diminishing play in every possible direction he can over the last two years. The most recent deflection was aimed at Doc for making him play a certain way. It's laughable really that Harden is this delusional about his decline. Still, that's a separate subject for later on I guess. In short, I think Doc DID have to be fired regardless of whether Harden had anything to do with it or not. It just wasn't going to work. We've had multiple playoff choke jobs already with him in the last three seasons. Can't keep doing this with an aging roster.

Rivers could indeed bear responsibility for what happened, but unless he's responsible for Embiid and Harden's playing like shells of themselves in game seven -- and I seriously doubt that -- then Embiid and Harden should have no say in whether he's here or who the new coach is.

You give players power like that when they're essentially carrying the organization -- Jordan, Kobe, LeBron, Shaq, etc. -- you don't give it to players who are unreliable in the biggest games over several years and can't make it over the hump to the conference finals even.

[Ferry Avenue]

It has to be someone who will hold Joel accountable

How does a coach hold Embiid accountable if Embiid is put in the position by the organization of signing off on the new coach? The dynamic created there is that Embiid is going to hold the coach accountable!

[FireMorey]

I don't think Budenholzer should be overlooked. He's probably a better candidate than Monty Williams. People will focus on this year and what happened, but it's unfair because his brother died, it was probably really tough on him. Bucks were very successful on both sides of the ball with him and weren't loaded with superstars.

[youngcrev]

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D'Antoni feels like a strong bet, although I could see Nurse and Morey dorking it up together.

[Arsenal]

I don't think Budenholzer should be overlooked. He's probably a better candidate than Monty Williams. People will focus on this year and what happened, but it's unfair because his brother died, it was probably really tough on him. Bucks were very successful on both sides of the ball with him and weren't loaded with superstars.

He's a great coach. Idiot fans who criticize him need to learn the game.

Either Bud or Nurse is a massive upgrade over Glenn.

[Murray_17]

If people don't like Vogel because he's only a defensive guy, i don't see why you would like Nurse.......Has someone see the Raptors Offfense with Nurse at the helm?

Yeah, they have zero offensive talent yet he finds ways to win. When he had Kawhi they won the title. The year after when Kawhi walked and they were left with washed Lowry and Siakam he led them to the #2 seed and almost knocked off Boston in the playoffs.

He's never had offensive talent even close to what he'd have here.

The raptors had have an off rtg between 13th and 16th every year Nurse was there, even the Kawhi year.

I never said he was a bad coach, he's a defensive specialist like Vogel.

[Arsenal]

If people don't like Vogel because he's only a defensive guy, i don't see why you would like Nurse.......Has someone see the Raptors Offfense with Nurse at the helm?

Yeah, they have zero offensive talent yet he finds ways to win. When he had Kawhi they won the title. The year after when Kawhi walked and they were left with washed Lowry and Siakam he led them to the #2 seed and almost knocked off Boston in the playoffs.

He's never had offensive talent even close to what he'd have here.

The raptors had have an off rtg between 13th and 16th every year Nurse was there, even the Kawhi year.

I never said he was a bad coach, he's a defensive specialist like Vogel.

Wrong. They were 5th in ORtg in 2018-19 with Kawhi and 11th this past season with weak offensive talent.

Nurse would have our current roster in the top 5 on offense.

[ProcessDoctor]

Hard to tease out the roster construction decisions in Toronto, but I wonder if Nurse would prefer a wing in place of Maxey given what he's worked with before. Maybe it was all Masai who wanted to all forward lineups, but I imagine Nurse would still prefer more athletic wings on the next team he coaches.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

I like the idea of Nurse because his teams have went toe to toe with Milwaukee and Boston a number of times. It's almost as if he has the recipe to beat those teams. He knows the type of personnel needed to beat them. As much as I couldn't stand him in Toronto, I would welcome him here.

Now, If the rumors about Harden partying and Doc calling him out about it are true, then we may have a problem. Personally I stand with Doc on the subject. Harden is supposed to be setting an example, and the honest truth as to why he's a career loser is partly due to him being so aloof a lot of the time.

The sad part is that this IS a players league. They run the show. The days of coaches screaming at their players or grabbing them by the collar and yelling some sense into them are gone. The days of coaches being a respected, and almost feared role model and leader are totally gone. This isn't like the movies. These coaches are basically glorified babysitters. I think some of them start off with a ton of fire when they first get a job. I know Doc did when he first started with Orlando. You can clearly see how engaged and passionante Jacque Vaughn is currently, but how long until he's pulled aside by management and told to calm it down and baby Ben Simmons because he's getting paid all this money?

IDK, I'm kind of going on a rant here, but the way I see it is no coach we hire is going to get Embiid or Harden to change or become more focused. The main reason I liked the Doc hiring was because I thought he was the type that held his guys accountable. He came off as a structured type of coach and maybe he was at one time, but do something long enough and it'll burn you out.

If we're going to leave this in the hands of our players and the talent we have on this roster, we could do a lot worse. There are some leaders on this team and a lot of these guys are self motivated. I truly believe Jo wants to win and is motivated enough to keep fighting. D'Anthony Melton looks the part of a professional at his craft. PJ Tucker is a voice of power and a leader by example. It could be a lot worse. There's a lot to like here with this roster and hopefully whoever the new coach is can get more out of it than Doc was able to do.

[mjkvol]

Mark Jackson? Just shoot me.

[Arsenal]

Mark Jackson? Just shoot me.

Where did you hear this? Please don't scare us lol.

[mjkvol]

Cassell would be my first choice. I know he's never been a head coach before but as a former player who has the respect of the team and doesn't appear to be as soft as Doc, I think he could get through to Embiid and Harden and needless to say, Maxey loves him FWIW.

That said, I think it's going to be one of MDA, Nurse or Bud.

I like Sam a lot, but the fact that he was with Glenn so long scares me and with a win-now group I think I'd prefer a veteran, but I know nothing about how he would approach this differently from Glenn.

I can't do the poll because I really have no favorite here. If I had to say, probably Nurse or Monty because Bud seems to have the lack of adjustment issue that Glenn had, although his plan and scheme is probably 1000 times better.

[mjkvol]

Mark Jackson? Just shoot me.

Where did you hear this? Please don't scare us lol.

For whatever reason, his name is in the poll here. That name would have never occurred to me.

[Murray_17]

Mark Jackson? Just shoot me.

So he had info and that's why he left Jokic out of his ballot?