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Re: The Naz Reid Thread 

Post#181 » by Klomp » Tue May 2, 2023 9:06 pm

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minimus wrote:Despite everything Connelly said about Naz Reid extension, why FO is still waiting? If I remember correctly we can resign Reid at any point giving him an amount of money regardless our cap situation, correct? The only reason why MIN have not done it yet, because Reid wants to test FA market? But then if he gets an offer from let's say OKC he will decide whether communicate with MIN in order to get a better deal or he can just straightforward sign OKC deal?

It very easily could be Naz who is waiting.


100%.

The longer they wait the more potential customers to get an offer from (less teams will be in the playoffs).

Other teams can't negotiate with him until July.
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Re: The Naz Reid Thread 

Post#182 » by urinesane » Tue May 2, 2023 10:01 pm

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Klomp wrote:It very easily could be Naz who is waiting.


100%.

The longer they wait the more potential customers to get an offer from (less teams will be in the playoffs).

Other teams can't negotiate with him until July.


Then they won't have a deal until at least mid July. No reason for Naz to let the Wolves set the price (unless they do the max, which doesn't make sense to the Wolves), let other teams get into a bidding war for him and then see if the Wolves will match.
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Post#183 » by Pelon chingon » Wed May 3, 2023 1:34 am

Kings fan coming in peace but also going to 100% honest. I would love to sign him via UFA. Kings Can have some cap space if we let Barnes walk and stretch Holmes. Maybe 15M gets it done?
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Re: The Naz Reid Thread 

Post#184 » by shrink » Wed May 3, 2023 2:26 am

Pelon chingon wrote:Kings fan coming in peace but also going to 100% honest. I would love to sign him via UFA. Kings Can have some cap space if we let Barnes walk and stretch Holmes. Maybe 15M gets it done?

$15 is starting to look like the right number. I would never have gone that high at the start of the season.
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Re: The Naz Reid Thread 

Post#185 » by TimberKat » Wed May 3, 2023 3:12 am

shrink wrote:
Pelon chingon wrote:Kings fan coming in peace but also going to 100% honest. I would love to sign him via UFA. Kings Can have some cap space if we let Barnes walk and stretch Holmes. Maybe 15M gets it done?

$15 is starting to look like the right number. I would never have gone that high at the start of the season.

Would you care for a sign and trade? Barnes (or Huerter depending on salary) + Holmes for Naz + Prince?
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Post#186 » by younggunsmn » Wed May 3, 2023 3:14 am

It's pretty clearly in Naz's best interest to hit unrestricted free agency.
The max we can offer until July 1 on an extension is not enough to get it done.

We can offer Naz bigger year to year raises than other teams.
But the bidding will start with the full MLE.

I honestly feel the only way he is back is if we overpay a little bit, but if he gets a similar offer with more playing time I would take that if I were him.
Luckily not a lot of teams have cap space this summer and it won't be the year of awful Mozgov deals again, but all it takes is one team to really like him.

It will be nice in future years teams will get an exclusive window from the draft until the opening of free agency to negotiate with their own free agents. How useful that is, time will tell.
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Re: The Naz Reid Thread 

Post#187 » by Pelon chingon » Wed May 3, 2023 3:52 am

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Pelon chingon wrote:Kings fan coming in peace but also going to 100% honest. I would love to sign him via UFA. Kings Can have some cap space if we let Barnes walk and stretch Holmes. Maybe 15M gets it done?

$15 is starting to look like the right number. I would never have gone that high at the start of the season.

Would you care for a sign and trade? Barnes (or Huerter depending on salary) + Holmes for Naz + Prince?


Yeah we could do a sign and trade with Barnes I actually wrote my first proposal with that in mind but deleted it before pressing submit.
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Re: The Naz Reid Thread 

Post#188 » by TimberKat » Wed May 3, 2023 4:01 am

Pelon chingon wrote:
TimberKat wrote:
shrink wrote:$15 is starting to look like the right number. I would never have gone that high at the start of the season.

Would you care for a sign and trade? Barnes (or Huerter depending on salary) + Holmes for Naz + Prince?


Yeah we could do a sign and trade with Barnes I actually wrote my first proposal with that in mind but deleted it before pressing submit.

Done. It's easy to be a GM :D
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Re: The Naz Reid Thread 

Post#189 » by wolves_89 » Wed May 3, 2023 5:13 am

shrink wrote:
Pelon chingon wrote:Kings fan coming in peace but also going to 100% honest. I would love to sign him via UFA. Kings Can have some cap space if we let Barnes walk and stretch Holmes. Maybe 15M gets it done?

$15 is starting to look like the right number. I would never have gone that high at the start of the season.


What's frustrating is that around the trade deadline there were rumors from fairly reputable sources that Naz was looking for a deal averaging around $10M/year. I think if Connelly would have offered an extension in the ballpark of $30M/3 years (or $40M/4 years) they could have finalized a deal. Now I'm far less confident that will get it done.
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Post#190 » by urinesane » Thu May 4, 2023 12:12 am

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Pelon chingon wrote:Kings fan coming in peace but also going to 100% honest. I would love to sign him via UFA. Kings Can have some cap space if we let Barnes walk and stretch Holmes. Maybe 15M gets it done?

$15 is starting to look like the right number. I would never have gone that high at the start of the season.


What's frustrating is that around the trade deadline there were rumors from fairly reputable sources that Naz was looking for a deal averaging around $10M/year. I think if Connelly would have offered an extension in the ballpark of $30M/3 years (or $40M/4 years) they could have finalized a deal. Now I'm far less confident that will get it done.


Tough to retroactively know how important he would end up being post deadline.
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Re: The Naz Reid Thread 

Post#191 » by wolves_89 » Thu May 4, 2023 2:37 am

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shrink wrote:$15 is starting to look like the right number. I would never have gone that high at the start of the season.


What's frustrating is that around the trade deadline there were rumors from fairly reputable sources that Naz was looking for a deal averaging around $10M/year. I think if Connelly would have offered an extension in the ballpark of $30M/3 years (or $40M/4 years) they could have finalized a deal. Now I'm far less confident that will get it done.


Tough to retroactively know how important he would end up being post deadline.


I was perfectly fine giving him that type of extension at the trade deadline and believe I said so at the time. My reasoning was that at $10M/year Naz would still be tradable while giving the team some flexibility with respect to moving Towns or Gobert if the right offer materializes.
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Re: The Naz Reid Thread 

Post#192 » by urinesane » Thu May 4, 2023 5:13 pm

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What's frustrating is that around the trade deadline there were rumors from fairly reputable sources that Naz was looking for a deal averaging around $10M/year. I think if Connelly would have offered an extension in the ballpark of $30M/3 years (or $40M/4 years) they could have finalized a deal. Now I'm far less confident that will get it done.


Tough to retroactively know how important he would end up being post deadline.


I was perfectly fine giving him that type of extension at the trade deadline and believe I said so at the time. My reasoning was that at $10M/year Naz would still be tradable while giving the team some flexibility with respect to moving Towns or Gobert if the right offer materializes.


You know moving KAT or Gobert was never the plan though and without being able to guarantee him a decent role when KAT inevitably came back, why would Naz take that deal rather than bet on himself in free agency? It goes both ways.

Also, rumors are just that. Unless someone is actually plugged into negotiations we are talking about a number that was not confirmed . Maybe Naz didn't want that number from the Wolves knowing that the plan was to play KAT/Gobert together as much as they could?

Now after what they saw from him, they understand how important he could be and will carve out a better role for him (and end up paying him more). Nobody knew (maybe outside of Naz) what he was capable of until he showed up big time in big games for the Wolves this season. He stepped up to the occasion in a contract year and deserves more than the $10 million/year.

I know we are fans of the team, but Naz is an amazing story, so I'd like him to get paid well, even if it's not with the Wolves (though obviously I'd prefer if he stays in MN).
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Post#193 » by Folklore » Sun May 7, 2023 5:54 pm

So a friend of mine just told me that he knows Nas and Jaden and talks to them on the phone.. I missed his call not too long ago while he was with Nas but he sent a photo of them as proof. I haven't called back yet because I'm shocked.

What should I ask both Naz and Jaden when I speak to them?
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Re: The Naz Reid Thread 

Post#194 » by shrink » Sun May 7, 2023 8:43 pm

Folklore wrote:So a friend of mine just told me that he knows Nas and Jaden and talks to them on the phone.. I missed his call not too long ago while he was with Nas but he sent a photo of them as proof. I haven't called back yet because I'm shocked.

What should I ask both Naz and Jaden when I speak to them?

Cool! Ask Naz how he felt when the Timberwolves took a chance on him as an undrafted rookie?

Maybe he’ll get sentimental, and it will help him decide to stay! :lol:
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Re: The Naz Reid Thread 

Post#195 » by minimus » Tue May 16, 2023 6:52 am

Cap space Teams that can offer Naz big deal:

1. HOU: $61M
2. SAS: $40-$48
3. UTA: $31-$45
4. ORL: $22-$58
5. CHA: $27-$37
6. OKC: $31
7. DET: $30
8. IND: $28

Full MLE: SAC, NYK, MIN, POR
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Post#196 » by FrenchMinnyFan » Tue May 16, 2023 10:36 am

I think NAZ will leave. Some teams will be interested,,like Utah. And i think he may not be that interested to remain option number 3 after KAT and Rudy. It wil be sad but if he can get a better salary and play more, totally understandable.
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Post#197 » by NebWolvesFan » Tue May 16, 2023 3:36 pm

The problem with NAZ isn't all money. He will want to be in a situation where he can play. I could see a team offering him a starting spot or at least a legit chance at a starter's spot and that holding more weight with Naz than if Minnesota offers the biggest contract.

Minnesota really needs to sign him before draft night or he's gone.
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Re: The Naz Reid Thread 

Post#198 » by Domejandro » Tue May 16, 2023 3:56 pm

NebWolvesFan wrote:The problem with NAZ isn't all money. He will want to be in a situation where he can play. I could see a team offering him a starting spot or at least a legit chance at a starter's spot and that holding more weight with Naz than if Minnesota offers the biggest contract.

Minnesota really needs to sign him before draft night or he's gone.

I generally agree with the rest of the post, but the last sentence is not accurate. Currently, Naz Reid has absolutely no incentive to sign any deal before free-agency begins. Whether or not he is extended before that period has no bearing on whether or not he will stay in Minnesota; I think he likely goes for whatever team enables him to make the most amount of money possible.
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Post#199 » by Klomp » Tue May 16, 2023 6:34 pm

MLE is likely the offer he signs from another team. Does that come from anyone that can offer a starting spot for a playoff contender?
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Post#200 » by Klomp » Tue May 16, 2023 7:29 pm

The hot talking point for us has been "it's Naz or the MLE, but probably not both"

My counter to that is, who is on the free agent market for the MLE who you would rather have over a 6'10" F/C averaging 22.5/9.6 per36 and will be only 24 years old next season and is both a locker room and fan favorite?



For me, Naz Reid is my first priority this offseason along with extensions for Edwards and McDaniels..
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