Trade Thread, 2023-24 – (Offseason)

[hugepatsfan]

Come on,
You all know what time it is.
Time to bring back Theis...

Nah. Not for $9 mil a year he has guaranteed on his contract for next season.

Why pay him that much, when we already have Muscala, Gallo, Griffin and Kornet as much cheaper options?

Or we could acquire some other big man, via trade or free agency who makes less than Theis.

Eh, if Grant does leave, it makes sense. IND is a very logical landing spot. If they're willing to pay him more than we are willing to, working out a S&T over an offer sheet makes some sense. They'd be more than willing to send out his salary.

Preserving salary slots is huge in the NBA. Letting guys go outright cuts your legs off for any future deals. And in the meantime, he definitely offers more serviceable minutes at the 5 than Kornet, Blake, or Gallo (who's a 4, not 5). Not special, but it's marginal improvement and leaves the door open for some future trades.

[Hal14]

Come on,
You all know what time it is.
Time to bring back Theis...

Nah. Not for $9 mil a year he has guaranteed on his contract for next season.

Why pay him that much, when we already have Muscala, Gallo, Griffin and Kornet as much cheaper options?

Or we could acquire some other big man, via trade or free agency who makes less than Theis.

Eh, if Grant does leave, it makes sense. IND is a very logical landing spot. If they're willing to pay him more than we are willing to, working out a S&T over an offer sheet makes some sense. They'd be more than willing to send out his salary.

Preserving salary slots is huge in the NBA. Letting guys go outright cuts your legs off for any future deals. And in the meantime, he definitely offers more serviceable minutes at the 5 than Kornet, Blake, or Gallo (who's a 4, not 5). Not special, but it's marginal improvement and leaves the door open for some future trades.

I don't see how it makes sense to trade Grant for Theis. That's a clear downgrade, imo.

Theis only played in 7 games this season. He's getting old, and less effective on both ends of the floor. And getting to be injury prone. Shot 18% from 3 in those 7 games this season, after shooting 30% from 3 the year before that. And is an undersized center.

Grant meanwhile, is much younger, much more durable (never gets hurt, pretty much never misses a game) is a more versatile/switchable defender and WAY better shooter.

I'm confident we can get a deal done with Grant this offseason, that works for both parties. If not, I sure as hell hope we can get something better in return for Grant than Theis.

[Larry_Russell]

Pritchard and Grant sign and trade to Detroit for Burkes and Stewart.

Call it a day.

Smart/Brogs
Brown/White
Tatum/Burkes
Stewart/Gallo
Timelord/Horford

Pistons project to have $38M of cap space. Why wouldn't they just sign Grant to a FA deal and keep Stewart/Burks?

Stewart also isn't a PF. Swap him and Horford here, if it does come to fruition.

They do it to maintain 38M in capspace so they can add FAs.

Why blow you load on just Grant Williams while keeping Burks and Stewart (3rd center)

[playa-hater]

PP for the 33rd (SAS) .. they could use him not another rookie. And Boston can get the 33rd and 35th pick. Use for a trade up or get 2 young 1st RD talent types. It is a win win..

[hugepatsfan]

Nah. Not for $9 mil a year he has guaranteed on his contract for next season.

Why pay him that much, when we already have Muscala, Gallo, Griffin and Kornet as much cheaper options?

Or we could acquire some other big man, via trade or free agency who makes less than Theis.

Eh, if Grant does leave, it makes sense. IND is a very logical landing spot. If they're willing to pay him more than we are willing to, working out a S&T over an offer sheet makes some sense. They'd be more than willing to send out his salary.

Preserving salary slots is huge in the NBA. Letting guys go outright cuts your legs off for any future deals. And in the meantime, he definitely offers more serviceable minutes at the 5 than Kornet, Blake, or Gallo (who's a 4, not 5). Not special, but it's marginal improvement and leaves the door open for some future trades.

I don't see how it makes sense to trade Grant for Theis. That's a clear downgrade, imo.

Theis only played in 7 games this season. He's getting old, and less effective on both ends of the floor. And getting to be injury prone. Shot 18% from 3 in those 7 games this season, after shooting 30% from 3 the year before that. And is an undersized center.

Grant meanwhile, is much younger, much more durable (never gets hurt, pretty much never misses a game) is a more versatile/switchable defender and WAY better shooter.

I'm confident we can get a deal done with Grant this offseason, that works for both parties. If not, I sure as hell hope we can get something better in return for Grant than Theis.

I'm certainly not advocating for a swap on the basis of their on-court merits. I'm saying if Grant is allowed to walk out the door because we don't want to pay him, it's a fine option to consider for me.

If Grant leaves I doubt we'll get anything better than Theis in return because that's not how losing a FA works. If anything, we'd have to give something up to have his new team facilitate the deal in a way that somewhat helps us.

[TheBookOfIsaiah]

Come on,
You all know what time it is.
Time to bring back Theis...

I could see Pritchard and Muscala to Indiana for Theis

[Larry_Russell]

Brown to Portland
#3 (portland), #23 (Portland), Pritchard to Utah
Markannen, Simmons or sharpe and #16 (utah) to Boston

Draft Leonard Miller at #16

Fire Joe


Or just trade Brown for Simons, #3 and #23

[Larry_Russell]

Brown to Portland

Simons to Chicago

#3, Pritchard and Kornet to Utah

Derozan, Markannen, #16 to Boston

Smart/Brogdon
Demar/White
Tatum/#16
Markannen/Grant
Timelord/Horford

[chrisab123]

No trading for 1st rounders. They need glue guys. Someone like a Jae Crowder but not Jae for multiple reasons mainly that he isn't going to accept coming off the bench for anyone. Especially Jaylen Brown. PJ Tucker would be perfect.

Ideally though you sign and trade Grant Williams for someone that can fill that Tucker role. The team itself doesn't need much other than a head coach.

[chrisab123]

Brown to Portland

Simons to Chicago

#3, Pritchard and Kornet to Utah

Derozan, Markannen, #16 to Boston

Smart/Brogdon
Demar/White
Tatum/#16
Markannen/Grant
Timelord/Horford

That would certainly make Tatum ask out. Have to make this team competitve for a title. If Brown asks out thats different.

[Hal14]

No trading for 1st rounders. They need glue guys. Someone like a Jae Crowder but not Jae for multiple reasons mainly that he isn't going to accept coming off the bench for anyone. Especially Jaylen Brown. PJ Tucker would be perfect.

Ideally though you sign and trade Grant Williams for someone that can fill that Tucker role. The team itself doesn't need much other than a head coach.

Agreed with the bold part.

Some options:

Kyle Anderson
Royce O'Neal
Dorian Finney-Smith
Larry Nance Jr
Isaiah Stewart
Cam Johnson
Jae'Sean Tate
Taurean Prince

I think you keep the top 7 guys you have now and add 1 of these guys in.

Sign and trade with Grant is probably the only way to do it, I'm assuming..

[Larry_Russell]

Brown to Portland

Simons to Chicago

#3, Pritchard and Kornet to Utah

Derozan, Markannen, #16 to Boston

Smart/Brogdon
Demar/White
Tatum/#16
Markannen/Grant
Timelord/Horford

That would certainly make Tatum ask out. Have to make this team competitve for a title. If Brown asks out thats different.

I assumed he would

[bucknersrevenge]

Brown to Portland

Simons to Chicago

#3, Pritchard and Kornet to Utah

Derozan, Markannen, #16 to Boston

Smart/Brogdon
Demar/White
Tatum/#16
Markannen/Grant
Timelord/Horford

I respect the persistence of your highly unlikely Markannen pipedream. I'd love Evan Mobley here myself.

[Larry_Russell]

Brown and 35 to portland
Smart, horford and simons to toronto

#3, #23, pascal siakam and gary trent jr to Boston
Draft scoot

Scoot/brogdon
White/trent
Tatum
Siakam/grant
Timelord

Mle, #23, for backup center and sf

[Larry_Russell]

Brown to portland

Simons, #3, #23 to OKC

Smart and 35 to Dallas

SGA, #10 and Kleber to boston

SGA/pritchard
White/brogdon
Tatum/#10
Kleber/grantw
Timelord/horford

[Johnny Tomala]

Brown, picks, filler for Towns.

[Patsfan1081]

Brown would be crazy to ask out before getting the supermax, which would keep him here for at least another year. I cant see him leaving till then. Yes they need glue guys but they also need cheap young talent, if PP goes they have no rookie contracts on the books and still no answer for the 4/5 longterm. Im all for picking up another second or trading up into the first. This is a perfect year to do so as teams have multiple picks, its the hardest its ever been to evaluate talent with more kids choosing to play outside of college, and it seeming to be a deep draft for big men. Gallo will also potentally be back.

[bigboi]

Brown and 35 to portland
Smart, horford and simons to toronto

#3, #23, pascal siakam and gary trent jr to Boston
Draft scoot

Scoot/brogdon
White/trent
Tatum
Siakam/grant
Timelord

Mle, #23, for backup center and sf

You're insane if you think Toronto is trading the third pick and Siakim for Simons and scraps. Delusional

[bigboi]

Brown, pick, and Horford for Mitchell and Allen

[playa-hater]

With the Hope that our first priority happens (a new coach) I feel Boston needs more than a "little trade"

I can't keep watching the same old thing for the last 4? seasons..