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Hello Portlandians! Love Portland...have a daughter living there.
Any interest in Jordan Poole for the #3. He's an incredible talent but the Draymond BS has wrecked the chemistry and I don't see Jordan starting over Curry.
Poole + future pick for Portland's #3 pick?
Any interest in Jordan Poole for the #3. He's an incredible talent but the Draymond BS has wrecked the chemistry and I don't see Jordan starting over Curry.
Poole + future pick for Portland's #3 pick?
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Maybe we can sign poertl to the mle I play with his buddy?
Dame, Bridges,Grant, Siakam, Poertl. Nurkic, Little, Keon and 3 for Bridges. Simons and 4 firsts for Siakam. (Think we could do better here TBH).
Elite defense, plenty of scoring with Dame, Grant, Siakam and Bridges with Sharpe and Thybulle off the bench. Probably re-sign Winslow too.
I don't think we blow it up, I think that team is a contender with Sharpe and Bridges continuing to improve.
Dame, Bridges,Grant, Siakam, Poertl. Nurkic, Little, Keon and 3 for Bridges. Simons and 4 firsts for Siakam. (Think we could do better here TBH).
Elite defense, plenty of scoring with Dame, Grant, Siakam and Bridges with Sharpe and Thybulle off the bench. Probably re-sign Winslow too.
I don't think we blow it up, I think that team is a contender with Sharpe and Bridges continuing to improve.

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ILOVEIT wrote:Hello Portlandians! Love Portland...have a daughter living there.
Any interest in Jordan Poole for the #3. He's an incredible talent but the Draymond BS has wrecked the chemistry and I don't see Jordan starting over Curry.
Poole + future pick for Portland's #3 pick?
No, we have zero interest in that. That's actually one of the worst trades I've ever seen, I'm sorry.
You would have to add every gs first and swap y you have for the next 5 years to get to the right value and it's still bad... Aside from that, Portland isn't trading it's best asset for Poole who does nothing for this team when we have Simons and Sharpe at the same position. When we trade 3, it's going to be for an all star.

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I wouldn't mind at all if we just draft Scoot and keep him, then trade Lillard.
I just think the best case scenario is that if we package the #3 we may get out of the 1st round once or twice, but we're not building a contender unless there are some key injuries around the league. Then we end up with 35 year old Damian Bryant on a massive contract while we are stuck in mediocrity till he retires.
I just think the best case scenario is that if we package the #3 we may get out of the 1st round once or twice, but we're not building a contender unless there are some key injuries around the league. Then we end up with 35 year old Damian Bryant on a massive contract while we are stuck in mediocrity till he retires.
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Norm2953 wrote:It will be interesting how teams operate this off season for there are team that will have to
deal with the second tax apron that is coming in the new CBA.
How much salary will Jody Allen approve for the 2023-24 season for with Dame and likely
Grant around, how much salary will ownership agree to in these win now trade proposals,
knowing they also have to deal with the second tax apron
The solution to that is for Jody to sell the **** team. I'm not a fan of Phil Knight at all. He's a terrible person who made his money from sweatshops and his politics are trash as well. BUT as an owner, I think he'd spend as much money as possible to make this team a contender because he's old AF and you can't take it with you. I'm actually curious you see if Jody sells this summer after making the all in moves to up the price of the team. I can see it.

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How do Blazers fans feel about a trade centered around Zach LaVine for #3?
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HINrichPolice wrote:How do Blazers fans feel about a trade centered around Zach LaVine for #3?
Meh. He's not really at a position of need and I don't trust his health. Nice player and I know he'd love to play in Portland since he's from the area, but not sure what he solves for the Blazers.
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Case2012 wrote:Maybe we can sign poertl to the mle I play with his buddy?
Dame, Bridges,Grant, Siakam, Poertl. Nurkic, Little, Keon and 3 for Bridges. Simons and 4 firsts for Siakam. (Think we could do better here TBH).
Elite defense, plenty of scoring with Dame, Grant, Siakam and Bridges with Sharpe and Thybulle off the bench. Probably re-sign Winslow too.
I don't think we blow it up, I think that team is a contender with Sharpe and Bridges continuing to improve.
I am starting to realize that POR does not know who Bridges is. There is a reason Damian believes he is the best SF in the league right now. He is also on the most valuable of contracts for a Top 25 player in the league. I honestly do not see the Nets dealing him unless they were to get a) a Top 10 player or once in a generation prospect (they just got him as the main piece in a deal for a Top 10 player of all-time and would not let him go easily OR b) a boatload of unprotected 1st round picks and 2 potential All-Stars if they decided to just blow up the team (which they truly cannot because they do not have their own picks).
POR needs to realize this. It seems like most of POR's fanbase understands that but I am seeing offers like this (you are not the only one so please do not feel like I am picking on you).
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JKiddy wrote:Case2012 wrote:Maybe we can sign poertl to the mle I play with his buddy?
Dame, Bridges,Grant, Siakam, Poertl. Nurkic, Little, Keon and 3 for Bridges. Simons and 4 firsts for Siakam. (Think we could do better here TBH).
Elite defense, plenty of scoring with Dame, Grant, Siakam and Bridges with Sharpe and Thybulle off the bench. Probably re-sign Winslow too.
I don't think we blow it up, I think that team is a contender with Sharpe and Bridges continuing to improve.
I am starting to realize that POR does not know who Bridges is. There is a reason Damian believes he is the best SF in the league right now. He is also on the most valuable of contracts for a Top 25 player in the league. I honestly do not see the Nets dealing him unless they were to get a) a Top 10 player or once in a generation prospect (they just got him as the main piece in a deal for a Top 10 player of all-time and would not let him go easily OR b) a boatload of unprotected 1st round picks and 2 potential All-Stars if they decided to just blow up the team (which they truly cannot because they do not have their own picks).
POR needs to realize this. It seems like most of POR's fanbase understands that but I am seeing offers like this (you are not the only one so please do not feel like I am picking on you).
Let everyone brainstorm. God you're annoying. OK, you don't like our offers and we don't like you're offers of Dame for scraps. Cool, nothing more for you to discuss here, go away.
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JKiddy wrote:Case2012 wrote:Maybe we can sign poertl to the mle I play with his buddy?
Dame, Bridges,Grant, Siakam, Poertl. Nurkic, Little, Keon and 3 for Bridges. Simons and 4 firsts for Siakam. (Think we could do better here TBH).
Elite defense, plenty of scoring with Dame, Grant, Siakam and Bridges with Sharpe and Thybulle off the bench. Probably re-sign Winslow too.
I don't think we blow it up, I think that team is a contender with Sharpe and Bridges continuing to improve.
I am starting to realize that POR does not know who Bridges is. There is a reason Damian believes he is the best SF in the league right now. He is also on the most valuable of contracts for a Top 25 player in the league. I honestly do not see the Nets dealing him unless they were to get a) a Top 10 player or once in a generation prospect (they just got him as the main piece in a deal for a Top 10 player of all-time and would not let him go easily OR b) a boatload of unprotected 1st round picks and 2 potential All-Stars if they decided to just blow up the team (which they truly cannot because they do not have their own picks).
POR needs to realize this. It seems like most of POR's fanbase understands that but I am seeing offers like this (you are not the only one so please do not feel like I am picking on you).
My man.
This is what you suggested Portland should take for Dame:
"Lillard for Simmons + D. Sharpe + 2 unprotected 1st round picks + 1 lottery protected 1st."
Damian Lillard is a top seventy-five player all time. He is a seven time all-star, a seven time All-NBA player. He is an elite scorer. A great floor general. An exceptional leader. He just came off the best statistical year of his career.
So for you to come here and to try to lecture Portland fans, on our board no less, that we do not understand the value of another player - and by suggesting Mikal Bridges - who I absolutely love - should be getting two potential all-stars as well as unprotected firsts of the 'boatload' numerical value, is insulting.
If you don't want to trade Bridges for the third, I get that. I do. I absolutely understand. But trying to tell Portland to shovel manure into our mouths and down our throat so you can get what you want for our franchise's best all time player who is still playing an -elite- level while saying your guy who you have had for three months deserves a better haul..
Maybe keep it to the Nets board if that's your play.
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Starting to think that Brooklyn fans think Bridges is worth more than prime MJ.
The 3rd pick in a deep draft where there are almost certain to be a few all stars is not a bad deal value wise especially considering BRK is rebuilding. Were you expecting Wemby for Bridges? Joker? Giannis?
Bridges is not an all star and you expect an mvp level return.
The 3rd pick in a deep draft where there are almost certain to be a few all stars is not a bad deal value wise especially considering BRK is rebuilding. Were you expecting Wemby for Bridges? Joker? Giannis?
Bridges is not an all star and you expect an mvp level return.

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I do not think you are understanding what I am saying.
First of all, the decision to trade any player will not come down to fans of either team.
I am just letting you know that the Nets won't trade Bridges for the 3rd pick.
In all likelihood none of these deals will come to fruition.
The Blazers are going to shop the 3rd pick to get someone Dame could possibly approve of being his Robin. I think Dame is great. I also think KD is great. But, aging veterans are not on the Nets timeline to succeed. BK does not own its own lottery picks so to rebuild and tank for future lotteries is not even a remote possibility.
Therefore, it seems like if POR and BK were to make a deal, these things would have to be considered.
No one is talking down to anyone.
First of all, the decision to trade any player will not come down to fans of either team.
I am just letting you know that the Nets won't trade Bridges for the 3rd pick.
In all likelihood none of these deals will come to fruition.
The Blazers are going to shop the 3rd pick to get someone Dame could possibly approve of being his Robin. I think Dame is great. I also think KD is great. But, aging veterans are not on the Nets timeline to succeed. BK does not own its own lottery picks so to rebuild and tank for future lotteries is not even a remote possibility.
Therefore, it seems like if POR and BK were to make a deal, these things would have to be considered.
No one is talking down to anyone.
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Case2012 wrote:Starting to think that Brooklyn fans think Bridges is worth more than prime MJ.
The 3rd pick in a deep draft where there are almost certain to be a few all stars is not a bad deal value wise especially considering BRK is rebuilding. Were you expecting Wemby for Bridges? Joker? Giannis?
Bridges is not an all star and you expect an mvp level return.
Bridges is valued as an All-Star level player by current NBA GMs. Will he be one? Maybe. Is he currently one of, if not the best two way player, at his position, in the NBA? Probably.
But, the thing that gives him such value is his team friendly contract and age. He is 26! He likely will be an unreal #2 and the Nets are looking for the #1 to step in this summer or next. I do not know who they will be. But, I do know that BK is stockpiling draft capital to make a play for that player. Will it be Dame? I am not so sure. They might want to find someone who is under 30 to just build a team for like 4-5 years to see if they can all grow together.
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Bridges is not an all star, it doesn’t matter if you think nba GMs think he is an all star level player. He’s very good, obviously. He’s an elite defender that’s showed he can score on a mediocre team as a first option. That doesn’t give him omega level trade value IMO. The 3rd pick is extremely valuable, more so than Bridges because the team that uses that pick probably gets a player as good as bridges or better on a rookie deal plus the right to match on his next deal.
BRK is not getting Dame for scraps. The Blazers have already formally announced their intentions of trading the pick and building a contender.
I would consider Sharpe and salary for Bridges with no picks as well. I’m open to trading him but most blazer fans say he’s untouchable, and for good reason. Sharpe could be as good as Bridges next year if he starts and that’s not an exaggeration but I don’t think we should start him yet. We need veterans in the starting line up.
BRK is not getting Dame for scraps. The Blazers have already formally announced their intentions of trading the pick and building a contender.
I would consider Sharpe and salary for Bridges with no picks as well. I’m open to trading him but most blazer fans say he’s untouchable, and for good reason. Sharpe could be as good as Bridges next year if he starts and that’s not an exaggeration but I don’t think we should start him yet. We need veterans in the starting line up.

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If we are trading Dame it’s gotta be for high picks or a young all NBA guy. I wouldn’t mind making a play at Jaylen Brown for Dame if Boston poops the bed Vs the Heat and retooling and hoping Sharpe and the 3rd pick are good by the time Brown is in his prime.
Brown Scoot Sharpe and trading Grant, Nurk and Simons for front court talent.
Brown Scoot Sharpe and trading Grant, Nurk and Simons for front court talent.
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The Sebastian Express wrote:JKiddy wrote:Case2012 wrote:Maybe we can sign poertl to the mle I play with his buddy?
Dame, Bridges,Grant, Siakam, Poertl. Nurkic, Little, Keon and 3 for Bridges. Simons and 4 firsts for Siakam. (Think we could do better here TBH).
Elite defense, plenty of scoring with Dame, Grant, Siakam and Bridges with Sharpe and Thybulle off the bench. Probably re-sign Winslow too.
I don't think we blow it up, I think that team is a contender with Sharpe and Bridges continuing to improve.
I am starting to realize that POR does not know who Bridges is. There is a reason Damian believes he is the best SF in the league right now. He is also on the most valuable of contracts for a Top 25 player in the league. I honestly do not see the Nets dealing him unless they were to get a) a Top 10 player or once in a generation prospect (they just got him as the main piece in a deal for a Top 10 player of all-time and would not let him go easily OR b) a boatload of unprotected 1st round picks and 2 potential All-Stars if they decided to just blow up the team (which they truly cannot because they do not have their own picks).
POR needs to realize this. It seems like most of POR's fanbase understands that but I am seeing offers like this (you are not the only one so please do not feel like I am picking on you).
My man.
This is what you suggested Portland should take for Dame:
"Lillard for Simmons + D. Sharpe + 2 unprotected 1st round picks + 1 lottery protected 1st."
Damian Lillard is a top seventy-five player all time. He is a seven time all-star, a seven time All-NBA player. He is an elite scorer. A great floor general. An exceptional leader. He just came off the best statistical year of his career.
So for you to come here and to try to lecture Portland fans, on our board no less, that we do not understand the value of another player - and by suggesting Mikal Bridges - who I absolutely love - should be getting two potential all-stars as well as unprotected firsts of the 'boatload' numerical value, is insulting.
If you don't want to trade Bridges for the third, I get that. I do. I absolutely understand. But trying to tell Portland to shovel manure into our mouths and down our throat so you can get what you want for our franchise's best all time player who is still playing an -elite- level while saying your guy who you have had for three months deserves a better haul..
Maybe keep it to the Nets board if that's your play.
TY!!! Dude is on my ignore list from here on out, I just can't.
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GreenRiddler wrote:If we are trading Dame it’s gotta be for high picks or a young all NBA guy. I wouldn’t mind making a play at Jaylen Brown for Dame if Boston poops the bed Vs the Heat and retooling and hoping Sharpe and the 3rd pick are good by the time Brown is in his prime.
Brown Scoot Sharpe and trading Grant, Nurk and Simons for front court talent.
Yeah, I would do Dame for Brown too. Honestly, I think the only way Brown gets moved is if he demands out. I think Boston is going to be willing to pay his bill when the time comes to keep their championship window open with Tatum and Brown, the only thing that would change that is a trade demand I would think.
Brown seems pretty unhappy in Boston, so we'll see how that works out, but I wouldn't hold my breath if they're going to continue to rack up ECF and Finals appearances.
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the best thing would be not to read or listen to anything trail blazers fans are writing/saying (some of the things they write and say is nothing short of being an idiot), just tune in on the draft night and see what your team does and if they **** up, just say goodbye until better times and im really nervous about our front office and their will to build a contender around dame lillard
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Case2012 wrote:Norm2953 wrote:It will be interesting how teams operate this off season for there are team that will have to
deal with the second tax apron that is coming in the new CBA.
How much salary will Jody Allen approve for the 2023-24 season for with Dame and likely
Grant around, how much salary will ownership agree to in these win now trade proposals,
knowing they also have to deal with the second tax apron
The solution to that is for Jody to sell the **** team. I'm not a fan of Phil Knight at all. He's a terrible person who made his money from sweatshops and his politics are trash as well. BUT as an owner, I think he'd spend as much money as possible to make this team a contender because he's old AF and you can't take it with you. I'm actually curious you see if Jody sells this summer after making the all in moves to up the price of the team. I can see it.
I think its less to do with Jody but the realites of new CBA for lets say they got OG/Siakum and kept Dame/Grant. How can any team afford to pay those 4 guys long term? Those 4 guys might up with $150 million with total team payroll exceeding $200 million
It'll be interesting to see if the GSW/LAC end up cutting salaries to get under the second tax apron.
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Case2012 wrote:Bridges is not an all star, it doesn’t matter if you think nba GMs think he is an all star level player. He’s very good, obviously. He’s an elite defender that’s showed he can score on a mediocre team as a first option. That doesn’t give him omega level trade value IMO. The 3rd pick is extremely valuable, more so than Bridges because the team that uses that pick probably gets a player as good as bridges or better on a rookie deal plus the right to match on his next deal.
BRK is not getting Dame for scraps. The Blazers have already formally announced their intentions of trading the pick and building a contender.
I would consider Sharpe and salary for Bridges with no picks as well. I’m open to trading him but most blazer fans say he’s untouchable, and for good reason. Sharpe could be as good as Bridges next year if he starts and that’s not an exaggeration but I don’t think we should start him yet. We need veterans in the starting line up.
Yep, I love Bridges potential as much as everyone. But he's not an All Star / All NBA player until he's an All Star / All NBA players. Until then, he's just that "All Star Caliber" player. I think the 3rd pick in this years and Bridges project out to be pretty similar quality players. If Bridges isn't super stoked on Brooklyn and wants not (not saying this is the case), then the #3 makes sense for them. Otherwise, if Miller is available at 3, I think both he and Bridges ceilings are pretty comparable - but Miller will be on a rookie deal for the next 4 years and only be 19yo. By the time he's ready for his first extension, Bridges will be nearing 30yo.
So this is a long way to say JKiddy can go pound sand about telling us how Dame is work some trash he found outside the Barkley center, but they would only trade Bridges for Wemby and a time machine delivered prime MJ... gtfoh my man.
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