Official Trade Thread Part XLV

[Rafael122]

Brad for Harris and Melton. No picks involved, who says no?

Who says no? Are you kidding?

I know people are down on Beal...so am I. But getting rid of him for what amounts to useless junk doesn't make sense. Even the Sixers board wouldn't make that sort of one-sided offer.

He's got one of the worse contracts in the NBA. This isn't about Brad the person or player, it's the contract. It's terrible, NTC on top of that to boot. As Dat pointed out, there's probably a handful of trades out there that you can do and besides the one for Brown, you're getting scraps and maybe a pick or two back.

[pcbothwel]

Brad for Harris and Melton. No picks involved, who says no?

Who says no? Are you kidding?

I know people are down on Beal...so am I. But getting rid of him for what amounts to useless junk doesn't make sense. Even the Sixers board wouldn't make that sort of one-sided offer.

He's got one of the worse contracts in the NBA. This isn't about Brad the person or player, it's the contract. It's terrible, NTC on top of that to boot. As Dat pointed out, there's probably a handful of trades out there that you can do and besides the one for Brown, you're getting scraps and maybe a pick or two back.

Im with TGW. Brown is going to get a SuperMax 5/290M deal for ages 28-32. Is that really a better deal than Beal for 5/25M for ages 29-33?
Wait until Harden gets ANOTHER massive deal taking him to his late 30's, or when Kyrie gets 45-50M/year through his mid 30's.

How do you feel right now if you are the owner/GM of the Suns, Nets, 76ers, Mavs, Bucks, TWolves, Clippers or Warriors?
Some combination of old, expensive, no picks, underperforming, etc.

[FAH1223]

If I'm trading Brad, I need a 1st round pick!

[Rafael122]

Who says no? Are you kidding?

I know people are down on Beal...so am I. But getting rid of him for what amounts to useless junk doesn't make sense. Even the Sixers board wouldn't make that sort of one-sided offer.

He's got one of the worse contracts in the NBA. This isn't about Brad the person or player, it's the contract. It's terrible, NTC on top of that to boot. As Dat pointed out, there's probably a handful of trades out there that you can do and besides the one for Brown, you're getting scraps and maybe a pick or two back.

Im with TGW. Brown is going to get a SuperMax 5/290M deal for ages 28-32. Is that really a better deal than Beal for 5/25M for ages 29-33?
Wait until Harden gets ANOTHER massive deal taking him to his late 30's, or when Kyrie gets 45-50M/year through his mid 30's.

How do you feel right now if you are the owner/GM of the Suns, Nets, 76ers, Mavs, Bucks, TWolves, Clippers or Warriors?
Some combination of old, expensive, no picks, underperforming, etc.

Brown's 1st year of his deal coincides with Tatum's last year of his current deal, so in a roundabout way I'm saying that they're probably going to keep that core together for 2 more years and figure it out from there. At that point, Brad's got 1 year on his deal at $53 million and he'll be 32.

[jangles86]

How have the wizards had the number 1 worst contra t in the nba for over a decade?

[gambitx777]

How have the wizards had the number 1 worst contra t in the nba for over a decade?

Beal isn't the worst contract in the league. He just isn't it's large but unless he majorly decline or misses large chunk of time like seasons at a time he isn't the worst and his contract will get better as time go on if he stays healthy .

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[9 and 20]

With Doc getting fired and the disappointment in Philly, plus supposedly Beal almost went there before the Simmons/Harden trade - maybe that's a good option. Beal with Embiid should work well. Maxey and Tobias Harris for Beal and Monte Morris or Delon Wright makes sense to me.

[gambitx777]

With Doc getting fired and the disappointment in Philly, plus supposedly Beal almost went there before the Simmons/Harden trade - maybe that's a good option. Beal with Embiid should work well. Maxey and Tobias Harris for Beal and Monte Morris or Delon Wright makes sense to me.

They don't have the contracts to facilitate that unless we take more back and honestly I'd say they don't have the picks. I don't see them trading a young guy like Maxy for Beal, if harden stays. Yeah a harden Beal back court could work cuz they are both decent passers. But that's a lot of ego with out a lot of ball but Beal as the third option would be deadly. I would say no from the wizards perspective. I think Beal will be open to going anywhere with a real chance to win and NYK and Miami both have the contracts and young assets plus more pics to trade. Of the three teams Maxy is the best young player. But he's up for a contract and I can't see Philly wanting to move him.

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[Dark Faze]

The idea of another middling season is kind of vomit inducing to me. I'm ready to sell everything we can this off-season.

[Frichuela]

I have seen this trade on twitter and, per the Fanspo app works cap wise. Draft night and assuming Scoot Henderson drops to #3:

WAS trades Beal + #8 to POR for Simmons + Little + #3
POR trades Simmons + Little + #3 for Beal + #8

Thoughts?

[nate33]

I have seen this trade on twitter and, per the Fanspo app works cap wise. Draft night and assuming Scoot Henderson drops to #3:

WAS trades Beal + #8 to POR for Simmons + Little + #3
POR trades Simmons + Little + #3 for Beal + #8

Thoughts?

I'd absolutely do this, and I'm not really even a fan of Simons.

I'd like it better if Simons was flipped someplace else for more assets. I'm not a fan of undersized shooting guards who don't defend. Could we send Simons to Toronto for Anunoby?

PG Henderson/Morris
SG Kispert
SF AnunobyAvdija
PF Kuzma/Avdija
C Porzingis/Gafford

[tacosman]

I have seen this trade on twitter and, per the Fanspo app works cap wise. Draft night and assuming Scoot Henderson drops to #3:

WAS trades Beal + #8 to POR for Simmons + Little + #3
POR trades Simmons + Little + #3 for Beal + #8

Thoughts?

There is absolutely no way Portland would consider that. This is a 3 player draft, and portland is sitting pretty at #3. They are going to get some really good offers for #3, and the idea that they would give up #3 plus another asset in Simons(even if you don't like him he does have some value) to take on beal and his contract is insane.......

[NatP4]

I have seen this trade on twitter and, per the Fanspo app works cap wise. Draft night and assuming Scoot Henderson drops to #3:

WAS trades Beal + #8 to POR for Simmons + Little + #3
POR trades Simmons + Little + #3 for Beal + #8

Thoughts?

I'd absolutely do this, and I'm not really even a fan of Simons.

I'd like it better if Simons was flipped someplace else for more assets. I'm not a fan of undersized shooting guards who don't defend. Could we send Simons to Toronto for Anunoby?

PG Henderson/Morris
SG Kispert
SF AnunobyAvdija
PF Kuzma/Avdija
C Porzingis/Gafford

That team maxes out at 30 wins. I don’t think Henderson will be anywhere close to as good as Bradley Beal.

I’d rather try and trade Beal straight up for one of 3/4/5/6/7 and take both of the Thompson twins.

I can see Indiana thinking Haliburton/Beal/Turner can compete in the east.

[nate33]

I have seen this trade on twitter and, per the Fanspo app works cap wise. Draft night and assuming Scoot Henderson drops to #3:

WAS trades Beal + #8 to POR for Simmons + Little + #3
POR trades Simmons + Little + #3 for Beal + #8

Thoughts?

I'd absolutely do this, and I'm not really even a fan of Simons.

I'd like it better if Simons was flipped someplace else for more assets. I'm not a fan of undersized shooting guards who don't defend. Could we send Simons to Toronto for Anunoby?

PG Henderson/Morris
SG Kispert
SF AnunobyAvdija
PF Kuzma/Avdija
C Porzingis/Gafford

That team maxes out at 30 wins. I don’t think Henderson will be anywhere close to as good as Bradley Beal.

I’d rather try and trade Beal straight up for one of 3/4/5/6/7 and take both of the Thompson twins.

I can see Indiana thinking Haliburton/Beal/Turner can compete in the east.

Sure. If I could trade Beal straight up for a high lotto pick, I'd do it in a heartbeat. It would be better to acquire draft picks rather than guys who are already established players. That we land a few more high picks before bottoming out.

I disagree on Henderson, though.

[NatP4]

Yeah I would call Houston and Portland and offer Beal, and offer to take back whatever bad contracts.

Minnesota and Phoenix both made huge all in trades that will hurt them for years down the road, I wouldn’t be shocked to see Portland do the same to atleast give it a shot with Dame.

[NatP4]

I would assume it would be Simons+Grant+3 for Beal.

But then I’m taking Amen at 3 and Ausar at 8.

[joshuacf]

I would assume it would be Simons+Grant+3 for Beal.

But then I’m taking Amen at 3 and Ausar at 8.

That trade would get us laughed off the phone.

[bsilver]

I would assume it would be Simons+Grant+3 for Beal.

But then I’m taking Amen at 3 and Ausar at 8.

That's all you want? Maybe they can throw in some future firsts.

Interesting names. I get Amen, but didn't know Ausar is also known as Osiris:
Osiris, an Egyptian god, usually identified as the god of the afterlife, the underworld and the dead.

[NatP4]

I would assume it would be Simons+Grant+3 for Beal.

But then I’m taking Amen at 3 and Ausar at 8.

That trade would get us laughed off the phone.

Maybe? What is Portland going to do with that pick? Who else are they going to go out and get to make them competitive? Scoot/Miller aren’t changing anything with that roster.

Teams overpay for “star” players all the time. Especially when they have pressure from the aging face of the franchise.

Didn’t a 34 year old Durant just got for Bridges+Johnson and four unprotected 1st round picks?

30 year old Gobert went for 4 first round picks, a pick swap, and Vanderbilt, Beasley, and Kessler.

Grant and Simons are just filler. It’s Beal for 3rd overall.

[joshuacf]

I would assume it would be Simons+Grant+3 for Beal.

But then I’m taking Amen at 3 and Ausar at 8.

That trade would get us laughed off the phone.

Maybe? What is Portland going to do with that pick? Who else are they going to go out and get to make them competitive? Scoot/Miller aren’t changing anything with that roster.

Teams overpay for “star” players all the time. Especially when they have pressure from the aging face of the franchise.

Didn’t a 34 year old Durant just got for Bridges+Johnson and four unprotected 1st round picks?

30 year old Gobert went for 4 first round picks, a pick swap, and Vanderbilt, Beasley, and Kessler.

Grant and Simons are just filler. It’s Beal for 3rd overall.

Yeah, and the Gobert trade is aging super well. The Blazers are not giving up the 3rd pick for the privilege of swapping a:

23-year-old 21ppg scorer making 24 million.
29-year-old 23ppg scorer making 47 million.

Simons is just simply not filler.