show me one realistic Dame trade

[NotMyKawhi]

That works for both teams...


It's hard to find bc the blazers have Scoot, Sharpe and simmons so you need to find elite 4 or 5 prospects, match 50 million in salary and the other team has to stay championship level.

[soobias]

i feel like thats a loaded question , also unbalanced. 1 team will win other team will lose.
theres only a few real contenders in the league imo and those teams dont have the assets to give back to portland in a balanced/fair trade.

im in the camp of trading DAME. i would rather get younger and kinda grow together and try to get rid of most big contracts while the DEN,GSW,PHX, rule the west for the next cpl years.

[NotMyKawhi]

i feel like thats a loaded question , also unbalanced. 1 team will win other team will lose.
theres only a few real contenders in the league imo and those teams dont have the assets to give back to portland in a balanced/fair trade.

im in the camp of trading DAME. i would rather get younger and kinda grow together and try to get rid of most big contracts while the DEN,GSW,PHX, rule the west for the next cpl years.

again, find a trade that makes sense for both teams. You won't find it. It has to make sense for both teams. A team isn't going to blow all their young assets and picks to fight for the play-in. Better to wait it out and build from within

[zzaj]

i feel like thats a loaded question , also unbalanced. 1 team will win other team will lose.
theres only a few real contenders in the league imo and those teams dont have the assets to give back to portland in a balanced/fair trade.

im in the camp of trading DAME. i would rather get younger and kinda grow together and try to get rid of most big contracts while the DEN,GSW,PHX, rule the west for the next cpl years.

again, find a trade that makes sense for both teams. You won't find it. It has to make sense for both teams. A team isn't going to blow all their young assets and picks to fight for the play-in. Better to wait it out and build from within

I have a better question. Show me a RealGMer who is an actual GM of an NBA basketball team, and who would be able to ACTUALLY give you the answer you're looking for. This site is 90% speculation and hindsight. Embrace it...

[soobias]

for me im looking at the cap and how much DAME,player"X",GRANT,NURK,SIMONS would take up over the next 3-4 years and would they realyand honestly compete for a chip... the ONLY person i could see changing us to a real contender is ghannis(however you spell it).
not EMBID,BROWN,SIAKUM,CURRY,BRIDGES,BUTLER..... maybe LeBron only because the NBA's love and effection for him and getting him deep into the playoffs for $$$ reasons.
also the person has to be a good fit and PDX needs a good offense and defensive scheme.
thats why im for pushing the reload button and start sort of new.

[NotMyKawhi]

for me im looking at the cap and how much DAME,player"X",GRANT,NURK,SIMONS would take up over the next 3-4 years and would they realyand honestly compete for a chip... the ONLY person i could see changing us to a real contender is ghannis(however you spell it).
not EMBID,BROWN,SIAKUM,CURRY,BRIDGES,BUTLER..... maybe LeBron only because the NBA's love and effection for him and getting him deep into the playoffs for $$$ reasons.
also the person has to be a good fit and PDX needs a good offense and defensive scheme.
thats why im for pushing the reload button and start sort of new.

I agree that I'd rebuild too if I could trade Dame but you guys aren't answering the question. There's no trade that makes sense for both teams.


What abt Pascal and OG for sharpe, 3 and sign and trade grant?

dame
Simmons
OG
Pascal
Nurk

[soobias]

i wouldnt trade sharpe and probably wouldnt trade #3 unless i was blown away.
if i could move DAME it would prob be to BK for say CLAXTON,CAM,and maybe DFS and some picks.
then move NURK for expiring if i could let GRANT walk go after WOODS


SCOOT/SIMONS
SHARPE/SIMONS/THYBUL
CAM/THYBUL/VET
CLAX/WINSLOW/VET
WOODS/EUBANKS/VET

dont know if it could work but at least we're not mediocre lvl with high payroll and pressed to get under the tax apron every year lol.
then try and bring in a coach that teaches/preaches player and ball movement and start this young team off the right way and in cpl years i think we would be fine

[Norm2953]

It could very well end up with a trade with a lot of picks and pick swaps with guys on shorter
term deals.

Brooklyn could send out Dinwiddie, DFS and perhaps Royce O'Neal along with the picks and it
could get done. Brooklyn would retain their player assets and could compete with the big
boys in the east.

Philly could send out Tobias Harris and Maxey

Miami could send out a package built around Herro

Boston if they lose in the conference finals as well as the Knicks could do something if motivated

It all depends on what you define as a trade that works for both teams. Orlando conceivably could
get involved but most definitely it will be a team that feels adding Dame would put them over the
top.

[52-12-7]

for me im looking at the cap and how much DAME,player"X",GRANT,NURK,SIMONS would take up over the next 3-4 years and would they realyand honestly compete for a chip... the ONLY person i could see changing us to a real contender is ghannis(however you spell it).
not EMBID,BROWN,SIAKUM,CURRY,BRIDGES,BUTLER..... maybe LeBron only because the NBA's love and effection for him and getting him deep into the playoffs for $$$ reasons.
also the person has to be a good fit and PDX needs a good offense and defensive scheme.
thats why im for pushing the reload button and start sort of new.

I agree that I'd rebuild too if I could trade Dame but you guys aren't answering the question. There's no trade that makes sense for both teams.


What abt Pascal and OG for sharpe, 3 and sign and trade grant?

dame
Simmons
OG
Pascal
Nurk

Swap Simons for Sharpe and I would do that. Blazers will never get anywhere with Dame and Simons backcourt. Both are too small and terrible defenders. Simons needs to be included in just about any trade. Also, I would consider Sharpe to be near untouchable.

[Norm2953]

I think Portland has come to the realization that going young is their best bet for there is
no realistic win now move that will put them in contention short of Emblid/Giannis.

Let's see if any Dame trade will offer Portland some serviceable front court bodies for
23/24.

[Effigy]

The current model for a Dame trade is to trade him for a bunch of future firsts and pick swaps. Which is fine if we are rebuilding anyway. You won’t get a trade that makes us a contender by trading Dame, you will get future assets. I would love to make a trade where a team like the Knicks give us all their future picks for instance.

[NotMyKawhi]

The current model for a Dame trade is to trade him for a bunch of future firsts and pick swaps. Which is fine if we are rebuilding anyway. You won’t get a trade that makes us a contender by trading Dame, you will get future assets. I would love to make a trade where a team like the Knicks give us all their future picks for instance.

idk abt the knicks, bc they have brunson, but that's your only hope. But I'll add, w the new rules you can't trade as many of your own picks.

Are any of these young teams gonna risk the future for Dame? Bc only young teams have multiple picks. And again, you have to send back 50 million in salary as well.

I just don't see a trade that makes sense for both teams.... and dame doesn't even want to play w young guys. Tough situation

[BlazersBroncos]

Honestly, what about GSW? They could use a retool, have big contracts to leverage, have all their future picks (And the window will be small enough that those will have value as Steph and Co age out), have some youngsters.

Dame for Kuminga, Moody, lots of picks / swaps w/ Klay the salary ballast going out to a team w/ cap space like OKC (Who could use a vet stopgap of some sort IMO)

[NotMyKawhi]

Honestly, what about GSW? They could use a retool, have big contracts to leverage, have all their future picks (And the window will be small enough that those will have value as Steph and Co age out), have some youngsters.

Dame for Kuminga, Moody, lots of picks / swaps w/ Klay the salary ballast going out to a team w/ cap space like OKC (Who could use a vet stopgap of some sort IMO)

that kind of makes sense but w the new tax rules, dame making 50 million and you have to fill out the rest of the roster.... The owner will lose money each season.

And they prolly need a big more than a PG. Are you gonna play wiggins at the 4?

[GEE]

i wouldnt trade sharpe and probably wouldnt trade #3 unless i was blown away.
if i could move DAME it would prob be to BK for say CLAXTON,CAM,and maybe DFS and some picks.
then move NURK for expiring if i could let GRANT walk go after WOODS


SCOOT/SIMONS
SHARPE/SIMONS/THYBUL
CAM/THYBUL/VET
CLAX/WINSLOW/VET
WOODS/EUBANKS/VET

dont know if it could work but at least we're not mediocre lvl with high payroll and pressed to get under the tax apron every year lol.
then try and bring in a coach that teaches/preaches player and ball movement and start this young team off the right way and in cpl years i think we would be fine

One will find (if one reads the Dame thread a little) that most people around here want to keep Dame and continue to build around him, so there's that. But I'm the minority and have been advocating for a similar trade as the one above, for some time now... My version: Dame / Nurkic / Keon <<<--->>> Simmons / Claxton / Dinwiddie / 2 FRPs & 3 Swaps. Not getting into the reasons why for either team, because I've gone into great detail why I think both teams benefit greatly, on the Dame thread.

Like soobias, Nurkic for a Woods S&T (2+1) interest me too, but I think BKN and Dame may want him in the deal It works either way for me. Keon, Nurkic and Dinwiddie can easily be removed:

Simons / Dinwiddie
Sharpe / Thybulle
Grant / Little / Knox
Simmons / Watford
Claxton / Eubanks / Walker

Or This (I'm happy with both)

Simons / Keon
Sharpe / Thybulle
Grant / Little / Knox
Simmons / Woods / Watford
Claxton / Eubanks / Walker

Portland would have #3, NYK pick, BKN picks, and others going forward, to improve on either roster above.

[Sinobas]

This assumes we trade Scoot, and will only trade Dame to a contender.

Dame and Nurk to Phoenix for Ayton and Paul

Why Portland does it:
We get an upgrade at center, whose age fits with our young core, and he's signed for 3 more years. We get out of Nurk's contract.
We could get a lot of picks from a contender, but they may end up being low 1sts and we never get a player of Ayton's quality anyway.



Paul would be an expensive backup (but good mentor) for a year, and would be needed to make the salaries work.

Why Phoenix does it:
They are in win now mode because of the Durant trade, and there is some bad blood now with Ayton.

[ebott]

The bigger thing if you're the Blazers is looking good by sending Dame somewhere that ends up benefitting Dame now and the Blazers in the far future. Is there any current playoff team that needs a pointguard, has control of their draft picks and has a HUGE expiring contract they could send to the Blazers?

The closest I can get is Dame to Miami for Kyle Lowry, Victor Oladipo and a ton of future picks.

[Norm2953]

My problem with Ayton would be I wouldn't want him anywhere near Sharpe/Scoot. I do like the idea of a mentor but Paul would not like being on a noncontender, and would ask out befote the start of the season

[Jsun947]

That works for both teams...


It's hard to find bc the blazers have Scoot, Sharpe and simmons so you need to find elite 4 or 5 prospects, match 50 million in salary and the other team has to stay championship level.

If Orlando wanted to make a jump there’s framework around expirings & draft picks

Same with OKC Brooklyn, & Miami

Minny around Towns

If Boston falls apart around Brown

But ya, these are somewhere between bad and a stretch. It would be really tough to find a package where both teams feel good about it which means we’d be the ones getting the short end if the stick.

[DaVoiceMaster]

How far off is this...

Portland trades: Lillard & Little
Boston trades Brown & Bogdon

Portland trades: Simons
Orlando trades: Harris, #11

PG Bogdon / Scoot / Johnson / #43 Pick
SG Thybulle / Sharpe
SF Brown / #11 Pick
PF Grant / Watford / Walker
_C Nurkic / #23 Pick / Eubanks

If the Blazers end up with Miller instead of Scoot, they use the #11 pick on a PF.