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#6 pick - early predictions

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With the #6 pick, the Magic take:

Ausar Thompson
26
34%
Cam Whitmore
11
14%
Jarace Walker
4
5%
Anthony Black
5
6%
Taylor Hendricks
17
22%
Gradey Dick
6
8%
Nick Smith
1
1%
Cason Wallace
4
5%
Jordan Hawkins
1
1%
Keyonte George
2
3%
 
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Re: #6 pick - early predictions 

Post#121 » by Skin » Thu May 18, 2023 7:37 pm

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basketballRob wrote:Jarace Walker resembles Draymond a lot. The reason I'd prefer him over Hendricks is that he seems more nimble. Hendricks seems more upright at not being able to get low to defend SFs. Hendricks reminds me of Christian Wood.

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Hendricks today has:
size of PF
Weight of SF
skillset of C

But also:
has no versitality on offense to play PF
has no ballhandling to play SF
struggles to finish around rim to play C


He is talented, but bit of robotic and not very versitale imo. Like, he is very good straight lines cutter, but how many of those are in nba in playoff games aveliable? Can he put ball on the floor and make play? Today, he can't.

He will probably be better defender than Christian Wood, but that's very low bar to pass.

jarace Walker has games where he doesn't show up especially on offense and is definition of limited role player on offense in general.

On Magic, roster vise, they really make no sense to me. I don't know.

You always do this. You try to expose flaws and detract everyone from liking a guy. The only players I ever heard you like during the predraft process were Mario Hezonja and Aaron Nesmith. Every player has flaws and at #6, you're definitely not gonna find the perfect player. Hell, we had the #1 pick last year and we drafted a big who doesn't play great low post defense or shoot from long range. The point is not to find the perfect player. The point is to build a collection of players that build a successful TEAM. That means having players that have strengths that correct other's flaws.

We already have 3 players who can make things happen by putting the ball on the floor and making a play in Paolo, Franz, and Markelle. What we need are players who can compliment them. Adding another guy who needs the ball in his hands is counter productive. Hendricks is the perfect compliment for our team because he adds long range shooting AND interior defense. That is exactly the kind of fit that we need.

I don't care that it's a high pick. Hell, we're trying to salvage Suggs who we drafted at the 5th pick. All he is after 2 years is a defensive specialist who can sometimes get hot off the bench, but has zero consistency. Hendricks fills the needs that we have with his size, shooting, and defense. Things that can consistently be relied upon.

Walker Kessler was passed a lot in the draft because of so many apparent weaknesses, but if the draft had a redo he would go higher because he gave the Jazz what they needed and contributed to their success in a season where many thought they would be in the bottom of the league.

We have to look at the draft beyond individual grades in a vacuum.
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Re: #6 pick - early predictions 

Post#122 » by yoyojw17 » Thu May 18, 2023 7:59 pm

Skin wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
basketballRob wrote:Jarace Walker resembles Draymond a lot. The reason I'd prefer him over Hendricks is that he seems more nimble. Hendricks seems more upright at not being able to get low to defend SFs. Hendricks reminds me of Christian Wood.

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Hendricks today has:
size of PF
Weight of SF
skillset of C

But also:
has no versitality on offense to play PF
has no ballhandling to play SF
struggles to finish around rim to play C


He is talented, but bit of robotic and not very versitale imo. Like, he is very good straight lines cutter, but how many of those are in nba in playoff games aveliable? Can he put ball on the floor and make play? Today, he can't.

He will probably be better defender than Christian Wood, but that's very low bar to pass.

jarace Walker has games where he doesn't show up especially on offense and is definition of limited role player on offense in general.

On Magic, roster vise, they really make no sense to me. I don't know.

You always do this. You try to expose flaws and detract everyone from liking a guy. The only players I ever heard you like during the predraft process were Mario Hezonja and Aaron Nesmith. Every player has flaws and at #6, you're definitely not gonna find the perfect player. Hell, we had the #1 pick last year and we drafted a big who doesn't play great low post defense or shoot from long range. The point is not to find the perfect player. The point is to build a collection of players that build a successful TEAM. That means having players that have strengths that correct other's flaws.

We already have 3 players who can make things happen by putting the ball on the floor and making a play in Paolo, Franz, and Markelle. What we need are players who can compliment them. Adding another guy who needs the ball in his hands is counter productive. Hendricks is the perfect compliment for our team because he adds long range shooting AND interior defense. That is exactly the kind of fit that we need.

I don't care that it's a high pick. Hell, we're trying to salvage Suggs who we drafted at the 5th pick. All he is after 2 years is a defensive specialist who can sometimes get hot off the bench, but has zero consistency. Hendricks fills the needs that we have with his size, shooting, and defense. Things that can consistently be relied upon.

Walker Kessler was passed a lot in the draft because of so many apparent weaknesses, but if the draft had a redo he would go higher because he gave the Jazz what they needed and contributed to their success in a season where many thought they would be in the bottom of the league.

We have to look at the draft beyond individual grades in a vacuum.




- switchable defender
- great shot blocker
- shoots the 3 well
- and dunks the ball

even if that is all he does.... that's a very helpful player in this league. I'm not really seeing the issue.

Oh... and it's not like he was playing on a top team either. Those i've talked to about him that watch the games said how much of an impact he had on the team.
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Re: #6 pick - early predictions 

Post#123 » by eyriq » Thu May 18, 2023 8:48 pm

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Re: #6 pick - early predictions 

Post#124 » by KillMonger » Thu May 18, 2023 9:02 pm

The way I see it there is no need to downplay prospects that other people like.... It's pointless.... This isn't life or death.... We already got our cornerstones, anybody we get now is to compliment the TEAM.... We got needs but I think we just need talent, if you watched enough film on the prospects in our range then you know that every one of them can help us in one way or another... I'm just happy that we're going to land a player that's going to make us better

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Post#125 » by Knightro » Thu May 18, 2023 9:14 pm

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Such a sleeper that he'll never wake up :lol:
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Re: #6 pick - early predictions 

Post#126 » by eyriq » Thu May 18, 2023 9:24 pm

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eyriq wrote:
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Sleeper at 6


Such a sleeper that he'll never wake up
I'm staking major board swag on this kid. Lol
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Re: #6 pick - early predictions 

Post#127 » by Petre1978 » Thu May 18, 2023 9:30 pm

Skin wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
basketballRob wrote:Jarace Walker resembles Draymond a lot. The reason I'd prefer him over Hendricks is that he seems more nimble. Hendricks seems more upright at not being able to get low to defend SFs. Hendricks reminds me of Christian Wood.

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Hendricks today has:
size of PF
Weight of SF
skillset of C

But also:
has no versitality on offense to play PF
has no ballhandling to play SF
struggles to finish around rim to play C


He is talented, but bit of robotic and not very versitale imo. Like, he is very good straight lines cutter, but how many of those are in nba in playoff games aveliable? Can he put ball on the floor and make play? Today, he can't.

He will probably be better defender than Christian Wood, but that's very low bar to pass.

jarace Walker has games where he doesn't show up especially on offense and is definition of limited role player on offense in general.

On Magic, roster vise, they really make no sense to me. I don't know.

You always do this. You try to expose flaws and detract everyone from liking a guy. The only players I ever heard you like during the predraft process were Mario Hezonja and Aaron Nesmith. Every player has flaws and at #6, you're definitely not gonna find the perfect player. Hell, we had the #1 pick last year and we drafted a big who doesn't play great low post defense or shoot from long range. The point is not to find the perfect player. The point is to build a collection of players that build a successful TEAM. That means having players that have strengths that correct other's flaws.

We already have 3 players who can make things happen by putting the ball on the floor and making a play in Paolo, Franz, and Markelle. What we need are players who can compliment them. Adding another guy who needs the ball in his hands is counter productive. Hendricks is the perfect compliment for our team because he adds long range shooting AND interior defense. That is exactly the kind of fit that we need.

I don't care that it's a high pick. Hell, we're trying to salvage Suggs who we drafted at the 5th pick. All he is after 2 years is a defensive specialist who can sometimes get hot off the bench, but has zero consistency. Hendricks fills the needs that we have with his size, shooting, and defense. Things that can consistently be relied upon.

Walker Kessler was passed a lot in the draft because of so many apparent weaknesses, but if the draft had a redo he would go higher because he gave the Jazz what they needed and contributed to their success in a season where many thought they would be in the bottom of the league.

We have to look at the draft beyond individual grades in a vacuum.

That is what he is doing all the time.
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Re: #6 pick - early predictions 

Post#128 » by Petre1978 » Thu May 18, 2023 9:32 pm

eyriq wrote:
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Sleeper at 6

He really looks in great shape!!
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Post#129 » by RookieStar » Thu May 18, 2023 9:55 pm

He is my early favorite. I know people might say it is a reach, but I wouldn't get mad. Just watch that sweet-shooting stroke
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Post#130 » by Def Swami » Thu May 18, 2023 10:04 pm

I'm inclined to think Taylor Hendricks will be the pick. He's also who I'd use #6 on.

Honest question: Is Hendricks a better prospect coming out of UCF than Jonathan Isaac out of FSU?
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Post#131 » by RookieStar » Thu May 18, 2023 10:25 pm

Def Swami wrote:I'm inclined to think Taylor Hendricks will be the pick. He's also who I'd use #6 on.

Honest question: Is Hendricks a better prospect coming out of UCF than Jonathan Isaac out of FSU?


In this modern NBA where Hendricks can shoot 3s? Then yeah probably.
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Post#132 » by davey_wavy » Thu May 18, 2023 10:53 pm

Petre1978 wrote:
eyriq wrote:
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Sleeper at 6

He really looks in great shape!!


He's worked out with Paolo a few times since the off-season started. George to ORL confirmed
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Post#133 » by basketballRob » Thu May 18, 2023 11:08 pm

George could have a promise from the Magic at 11. He didn't measure at the combine. He participated at the Lift Pro Day, but that could've been to help draw attention for the other players.

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Post#134 » by eyriq » Thu May 18, 2023 11:11 pm

Def Swami wrote:I'm inclined to think Taylor Hendricks will be the pick. He's also who I'd use #6 on.

Honest question: Is Hendricks a better prospect coming out of UCF than Jonathan Isaac out of FSU?


That is a good question. I think Isaac was a clearly better prospect. Bigger, better defender, and more efficient on offense.

Size
Taylor 6'9'' | 7'0'' W/S
Isaac 6'11'' | 7'1 W/S

Box Score
Taylor 15.1 PTS | 7.0 TRB | 1.4 AST | 53.5 2P% | 39.4 3P% | 78.2 FT%
Isaac 12.0 PTS | 7.8 TRB | 1.2 AST | 59.3 2P% | 34.8 3P% | 78.0 FT%

Efficiency
Taylor 55.7 eFG% | 58.9 TS%
Isaac 56.8 eFG% | 61.4 TS%

Box Score Plus/Minus
Taylor 3.4 OBPM | 4.0 DBPM | 7.4 BPM
Isaac 3.6 OBPM | 5.3 DBPM | 8.9 BPM

Advanced
Taylor 20.4 USG% | 8.1 ORB% | 16.2 DRB% | 8.6 AST% | 5.9 BLK% | 1.6 STL% | 28.6 FTR
Isaac 20.0 USG% | 7.7 ORB% | 25.0 DRB% | 7.5 AST% | 6.2 BLK% | 2.4 STL% | 46.1 FTR
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Post#135 » by Skin » Thu May 18, 2023 11:33 pm

basketballRob wrote:George could have a promise from the Magic at 11. He didn't measure at the combine. He participated at the Lift Pro Day, but that could've been to help draw attention for the other players.

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A promise this early is a disservice to the process. He didn't measure because his measureables are not good.
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Post#136 » by Ralof » Thu May 18, 2023 11:38 pm

If I was sure that Hendricks in a pair of years would be

-75% of the defender peak Isaac could be in nba

-a reliable spot-up shooter,let's say 37-38% from deep

would be my pic at #6 in an heartbit
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Re: #6 pick - early predictions 

Post#137 » by RookieStar » Fri May 19, 2023 12:00 am

eyriq wrote:
Def Swami wrote:I'm inclined to think Taylor Hendricks will be the pick. He's also who I'd use #6 on.

Honest question: Is Hendricks a better prospect coming out of UCF than Jonathan Isaac out of FSU?


That is a good question. I think Isaac was a clearly better prospect. Bigger, better defender, and more efficient on offense.

Size
Taylor 6'9'' | 7'0'' W/S
Isaac 6'11'' | 7'1 W/S

Box Score
Taylor 15.1 PTS | 7.0 TRB | 1.4 AST | 53.5 2P% | 39.4 3P% | 78.2 FT%
Isaac 12.0 PTS | 7.8 TRB | 1.2 AST | 59.3 2P% | 34.8 3P% | 78.0 FT%

Efficiency
Taylor 55.7 eFG% | 58.9 TS%
Isaac 56.8 eFG% | 61.4 TS%

Box Score Plus/Minus
Taylor 3.4 OBPM | 4.0 DBPM | 7.4 BPM
Isaac 3.6 OBPM | 5.3 DBPM | 8.9 BPM

Advanced
Taylor 20.4 USG% | 8.1 ORB% | 16.2 DRB% | 8.6 AST% | 5.9 BLK% | 1.6 STL% | 28.6 FTR
Isaac 20.0 USG% | 7.7 ORB% | 25.0 DRB% | 7.5 AST% | 6.2 BLK% | 2.4 STL% | 46.1 FTR


You sure JI was measure.6'11 in FSU? All i remembered was he was one of those 6'9 PFs that they seem to love. He grew while on the Magic but in college he was supposedly 6'9
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Post#138 » by The-Stallion70 » Fri May 19, 2023 12:01 am

It seems like the top guys available are forwards, which we are more than set already at those positions.

I like Jarace as a small ball 5 but not sure if his rebounding is up to snuff.

We need shooting and/and or a stud point guard. The 6th pick is a less than optimal outcome for the Magic.

My top choice is still a trade, maybe something like what Minnesota did to get Gobert last year. It's not going to win us a championship but it would likely get us in the playoffs.
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Post#139 » by eyriq » Fri May 19, 2023 12:01 am

RookieStar wrote:
eyriq wrote:
Def Swami wrote:I'm inclined to think Taylor Hendricks will be the pick. He's also who I'd use #6 on.

Honest question: Is Hendricks a better prospect coming out of UCF than Jonathan Isaac out of FSU?


That is a good question. I think Isaac was a clearly better prospect. Bigger, better defender, and more efficient on offense.

Size
Taylor 6'9'' | 7'0'' W/S
Isaac 6'11'' | 7'1 W/S

Box Score
Taylor 15.1 PTS | 7.0 TRB | 1.4 AST | 53.5 2P% | 39.4 3P% | 78.2 FT%
Isaac 12.0 PTS | 7.8 TRB | 1.2 AST | 59.3 2P% | 34.8 3P% | 78.0 FT%

Efficiency
Taylor 55.7 eFG% | 58.9 TS%
Isaac 56.8 eFG% | 61.4 TS%

Box Score Plus/Minus
Taylor 3.4 OBPM | 4.0 DBPM | 7.4 BPM
Isaac 3.6 OBPM | 5.3 DBPM | 8.9 BPM

Advanced
Taylor 20.4 USG% | 8.1 ORB% | 16.2 DRB% | 8.6 AST% | 5.9 BLK% | 1.6 STL% | 28.6 FTR
Isaac 20.0 USG% | 7.7 ORB% | 25.0 DRB% | 7.5 AST% | 6.2 BLK% | 2.4 STL% | 46.1 FTR


You sure JI was measure.6'11 in FSU? All i remembered was he was one of those 6'9 PFs that they seem to love. He grew while on the Magic but in college he was supposedly 6'9


Oh, good call, could be.
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Re: #6 pick - early predictions 

Post#140 » by Knightro » Fri May 19, 2023 12:02 am

Def Swami wrote:I'm inclined to think Taylor Hendricks will be the pick. He's also who I'd use #6 on.

Honest question: Is Hendricks a better prospect coming out of UCF than Jonathan Isaac out of FSU?


I don't think so, no.

Hendricks is a better 3PT shooter at the same age, but that's it.

Isaac was a better defender, better finisher, better interior presence overall, better rebounder and played tougher competition.

They're pretty similar prospects from a style of play perspective though.

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