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Post#1061 » by tleikheen » Fri May 19, 2023 1:27 am

Remember Rui shot 48 Percent as a Wizard and that wasnt good enough now he's the Black Samurai on the Lakers ....when do you make a name for yourself ....THE PLAYOFFS
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Post#1062 » by JWizmentality » Fri May 19, 2023 1:30 am

tleikheen wrote:Remember Rui shot 48 Percent as a Wizard and that wasnt good enough now he's the Black Samurai on the Lakers ....when do you make a name for yourself ....THE PLAYOFFS


Nothing Rui did was good enough for the fantasy GMs of this board.
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Post#1063 » by AFM » Fri May 19, 2023 2:07 am

JWizmentality wrote:Watching Rui continue to play excellent defense on Jokic and remembering some ridiculous garbage takes on this board.


Brother you know I've never been afraid to admit when I was wrong!

I'm very happy for Rui. Always liked him, even when I wanted us to trade him.
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Post#1064 » by payitforward » Fri May 19, 2023 2:13 am

Kanyewest wrote:...Morris did have a relatively solid season. But I think KCP would be more likely to net a better draft pick in a trade than Morris....

Absolutely!
There is no question about any of this. KCP was also paid 60% more money than Morris this year. He is a more valuable player than Morris. By definition.

But, we traded KCP for two players, not one player.
& the other player, Will Barton, earned a ton more money than Morris. In fact, he made just about the same $$ as KCP this last season.

If Barton had not collapsed -- which he did, totally -- the trade would have been fine. & that's what I wrote above. Period.
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Post#1065 » by prime1time » Fri May 19, 2023 5:16 am

At some point, there really isn't much to say.
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Post#1066 » by gambitx777 » Fri May 19, 2023 5:33 am

I defended Rui to the death, wanted him resigned. But to act like he's anything better than what he was here is sensationalized BS. He's exactly what he was here a decent bench scouring option who plays decent man to man defence but often gets lost on defence as a whole and isn't that dynamic.

He had another nice game, he did an ok job on jotic. Didn't slow him down that much and they didn't win the game. So why are we still talking about a former play who is exactly who we thought he was on an ok looser effort in a play off game?

He's gonna get over paid. Then about 5 weeks in he's gonna get a nagging what ever I jury or have another break down. Rui is who Rui is.

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Post#1067 » by tleikheen » Fri May 19, 2023 6:48 am

But to act like he's anything better than what he was here is sensationalized BS. He's exactly what he was here a decent bench scouring option who plays decent man to man defence but often gets lost on defence as a whole and isn't that dynamic.






1st series, (33-58 57 percent) (11-21 3P 52.4 percent)

2nd series (16-28 57 percent) (5-9 3P 55.6 percent)

3rd series (16-21 76.2 percent) (2-3 3P 66.7 percent)

Total ( 65-107 60.7 percent) (18-33 3P 54,8 percent)

What part of Rui's play in the playoffs which the Wizards after trying so hard under WUJ tryed to make is "sensationaized BS" .What is sensational is the name Rui is making for himself "IN FRONT " of millions of BB fans worldwide who know he was traded from the Wizards .Most of these fans cant name 1 Wizard player but know the Wizard player traded to the lakers.
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Post#1068 » by JWizmentality » Fri May 19, 2023 1:30 pm

gambitx777 wrote:I defended Rui to the death, wanted him resigned. But to act like he's anything better than what he was here is sensationalized BS. He's exactly what he was here a decent bench scouring option who plays decent man to man defence but often gets lost on defence as a whole and isn't that dynamic.

He had another nice game, he did an ok job on jotic. Didn't slow him down that much and they didn't win the game. So why are we still talking about a former play who is exactly who we thought he was on an ok looser effort in a play off game?

He's gonna get over paid. Then about 5 weeks in he's gonna get a nagging what ever I jury or have another break down. Rui is who Rui is.

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Enough with the defence BS. Him getting lost on defense doesn't happen nearly enough anymore to keep harping on it.

Rui wasn't the reason the Lakers lost and he wasn't the reason we lost. So your argument is Rui sucks because he tends to show up in big games while his teammates shrink. Thats a downside? Rui is who we thought he is?

Rui has had nagging injuries but I certainly wouldn't call him injury prone. And like always, the "mental health champions" on this board still has something to say about an incident they have no information about but likes to keep bashing the young man with. He's going to have another breakdown? Poverty franchise = Poverty fanbase.
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Post#1069 » by dcstanley » Fri May 19, 2023 2:31 pm

Rui is not the same player. He's been working hard with Lakers development coach Phil Handy to improve his shooting arc. Lakers commentator Stu Lantz often made mention of the flat arc on his shot when Rui first arrived in LA and the Lakers staff has made a concerted effort to correct that. He's a far more consistent and confident shooter as a result of the improved shooting arc . Obviously, small sample size theater and his scorching shooting in the playoffs won't sustain during the regular season but he's clearly improved as an offensive player.
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Post#1070 » by payitforward » Fri May 19, 2023 3:09 pm

dcstanley wrote:Rui is not the same player. He's been working hard with Lakers development coach Phil Handy to improve his shooting arc. Lakers commentator Stu Lantz often made mention of the flat arc on his shot when Rui first arrived in LA and the Lakers staff has made a concerted effort to correct that.....

This is interesting & may go some way towards explaining why, in his regular season stretch with the Lakers, his scoring got worse not better -- i.e. because he was working on some big changes.

dcstanley wrote:...he's clearly improved as an offensive player.

In the playoffs, certainly!
& assuming that these changes stick (why not?), then we can look forward to seeing a much improved season from Rui next year & henceforth. Good for him!
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Post#1071 » by DCZards » Fri May 19, 2023 4:06 pm

gambitx777 wrote:I d
He's gonna get over paid. Then about 5 weeks in he's gonna get a nagging what ever I jury or have another break down. Rui is who Rui is.

Would you please stop saying that. It’s a totally unnecessary cheap shot.
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Post#1072 » by DCZards » Fri May 19, 2023 4:16 pm

dcstanley wrote:Rui is not the same player. He's been working hard with Lakers development coach Phil Handy to improve his shooting arc. Lakers commentator Stu Lantz often made mention of the flat arc on his shot when Rui first arrived in LA and the Lakers staff has made a concerted effort to correct that. He's a far more consistent and confident shooter as a result of the improved shooting arc . Obviously, small sample size theater and his scorching shooting in the playoffs won't sustain during the regular season but he's clearly improved as an offensive player.

I’m not buying this narrative that somehow after 2-3 months with LA Rui is a markedly better shooter. He was a very good shooter and offensive player as a Zard.
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Post#1073 » by Kanyewest » Fri May 19, 2023 4:17 pm

Everything 4th quarter notes on Rui
The good

- Rui got to the free throw line and made both of them off transition
- Rui does a good job posting up Brown which leads to a double, Rui makes the correct pass and leads to Davis free throws.
- Good defense by Rui not allowing Porter to take a 3 off of a dribble handoff, Jokic ends up taking a terrible shot.

The bad

- Had a wide open 3, but instead took a dribble to get a mid range shot- Rui should probably take the 3 since he's shooting 55% from 3 this postseason
- Jeff Green drew an offensive foul on him
- Bad transition defense that leads to a Bruce Brown 3 (6:48)
-- Lakers put Rui on Jamaal Murray, Rui loses Murray on some screens which leads to a wide open 3 when Murray was already hot. Poor communication between Davis and Rui on the switch which leads to a Murray 3.
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Give it to Rui?
- With 3 minutes to go, perhaps LeBron could have passed the ball ahead to Rui who could have had the opportunity for a transition layup, but instead defers to an open Davis 3, who misses.
- In another crunch time possession, Schroeder chooses Davis over Rui (both were open) when driving to the basket- Davis is set up in one corner, and Rui in another. Davis misses the corner 3
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Post#1074 » by tleikheen » Fri May 19, 2023 7:27 pm

Every game Rui keeps shooting lights out in the PLAYOFFS should remind Wizard fans he did this for the one playoffs he played in with the Wizards. Playoff Rui keeps getting minimized by those who said he had a low BBIQ, was inconsistent while shooting 48 percent /35 percent 3P as a Wizard and couldnt play defense. Yet here we are watching Rui in the Western Conf Finals shooting Lights Out again.
The picture has been painted that Rui wanted out of DC while never mentioning Wes Unseld Jr didnt like him or play him in the 4th quarters no matter how good he was playing.

In leaving his last words were , he wanted to play for a team that wanted him and liked his game .
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Post#1075 » by payitforward » Sat May 20, 2023 1:45 am

In the playoffs so far, Rui has scored 172 points on 107 shots & 28 FTs.

That's a TS% of .721 -- just utterly & unbelievably great!
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Post#1076 » by gambitx777 » Sat May 20, 2023 1:29 pm

DCZards wrote:
gambitx777 wrote:I d
He's gonna get over paid. Then about 5 weeks in he's gonna get a nagging what ever I jury or have another break down. Rui is who Rui is.

Would you please stop saying that. It’s a totally unnecessary cheap shot.
I will not, it's a fair criticism.
The the man played 151 games, around half of the games he could have.

I never once here said Rui sucks. I've said he's had nice games. But I'm tired of the dick riding, all in the #thatssowizards spirit. He had stretches like this for us at times where he looked like a world bater for 10-15 games then went back to the norm, or got hurt, or just mentally quit. I'm calling It like I see it. Just like I did with Ben Simmons. The reported contract we offered him was fair. He turned his nose up at it and he is gonna get over paid and it's not gonna be great.

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Post#1077 » by DCZards » Sat May 20, 2023 2:15 pm

gambitx777 wrote:
DCZards wrote:
gambitx777 wrote:I d
He's gonna get over paid. Then about 5 weeks in he's gonna get a nagging what ever I jury or have another break down. Rui is who Rui is.

Would you please stop saying that. It’s a totally unnecessary cheap shot.
I will not, it's a fair criticism.
The the man played 151 games, around half of the games he could have.

Talking about injuries is one thing. But making light of someone’s mental health struggles is cruel, imo.

But you do you, bro.
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Post#1078 » by closg00 » Sat May 20, 2023 2:44 pm

Rui Hachimura trade details, explained: Revisiting Lakers-Wizards deadline deal

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/news/rui-hachimura-trade-details-lakers-wizards/ilbqqgmzq24apa5xqjftamsy

It will be interesting to see what kind of contract Rui will earn.
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Post#1079 » by badinage » Sat May 20, 2023 4:42 pm

He was really good in the second half of last year as a shooter — particularly hitting the 3.

And his shot looks even better now. He’s definitely slimmer, and it’s helping him. And the Lakers clearly see him as a 3, so his need to rebound and play help D is minimized, a good thing for him.

What bothers me is this —

This team was exceedingly patient with him when he was out of commission for, I think, 55 games — out of commission for what, we still don’t know. What was it? Speculation is that he had depression, or that it was some battle with mental illness. But — we don’t know that. No one has reported the reason. I want to know. Why? Why did he miss a majority of the season? Why was it just written off in the media as not a big deal, and something that no one should be looking into? Why?

More important than my wanting to know is this — that the team stuck by him. Let him play in the Olympics. Defended and shielded him when he came back and went missing. Paid him. It was essentially a lost year. An entire lost year. For a developing player — and a player who needed the time to work on skills. And this team invested in him. And cosseted him. And kept the media at bay for him.

And for what? For him to turn on the team and say — trade me. Diminishing our chance to maximize a return. Sowing ill feelings.

His turning on them, plus his disappearing act (however justified, and maybe it was; or maybe it wasn’t — we don’t know), tanked his value. That stings.
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Post#1080 » by payitforward » Sat May 20, 2023 6:03 pm

Huh! I'd never thought of this, badinage....

Thing is... we don't really know what was going on behind the curtain.... Maybe Rui's agent figured out that his client really wasn't in the team's long term plans -- in that case, it would be incumbent on him to ask for a trade.

I don't see a whole lot of benefit in speculating on this. & I definitely don't see any benefit in dissing Rui for... anything!

Rui wasn't a very good player for us over almost 4 seasons. & even tho he was better in the regular season with LA, he wasn't better by a whole lot.

OTOH, he has simply shot lights out in the playoffs! I mean... his shooting performance has been absolutely phenomenal! A .721 TS% over 312 minutes is truly exceptional.

Give him credit & wish him well!

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