2023 Draft Discussion Part 5

[Loso04]

OG to Indiana for #7, #26, Nemhard and future 1st.

Draft Coulibaly and Hawkins

Nemhard
Hawkins
Barnes
Pascal
Poeltl

[HumbleRen]

[metafisical]

From the Wiretap:

“ Lowe doubts No. 3 and Anfernee Simons would be enough for the Blazers to acquire either Mikal Bridges or OG Anuonby.”

WTF??? I think most of us would do that trade in a hearbeat.

There's no way he's being serious about this. Masai would and should do this in a heartbeat

Masai's asking price is probably 3 unprotected firsts, including 2023, 3 pick swaps, Sharpe, and filler.

[OakleyDokely]

He's got that jamal murray twitch for sure.

Thing is, Jamal put up splits of 45/40/78 as a freshman so he was more of a sure thing.

[HumbleRen]

He's got that jamal murray twitch for sure.

Thing is, Jamal put up splits of 45/40/78 as a freshman so he was more of a sure thing.

I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and believe the talk around town that he was playing injured during the season.

[WuTang_CMB]

trade him where?

Before you answer, remember they'd have scoot and shape in the backcourt. Simmons too. They'd want a 4 or 5 elite prospect. Find this trade. And he makes a lot of money so you gotta match salary. It has to work for both teams. Make something make sense

Put him on the market and teams will be aggressive for him. Had a very good season last year. Houston could be a player, same with Pelicans. BRK as well with the Bridges connection.

I can't see Houston. Not unless Harden actually goes there and even if he does, they don't have the salary to make a trade work for Lillard.

Sane with Brooklyn. The only guys they have under contract that have enough salary to make deal work is Bridges, Simmons and Finney-Smith. If they have to move Bridges, it defeats the purpose and while they could sign and trade some of their FAs instead, I don't see a team where your best players are Lillard and Bridges being a contender.

Pelicans have the assets but they'd have to be willing to move Ingram, Nance, one of Herb/Daniels/Murphy and some picks PLUS you'd be back to the Lillard/McCollum backcourt which didn't work the first time

I think the Heat would be a phenomenal destination but Portland would have to be willing to take two of Herro and either Lowry or Robinson plus picks.

So really just the Heat and the Pels have offers that would give Portland reasonable return. If Portland doesn't care too much about what they get back then maybe options open up a little more but even then, he's really expensive (both now and in the future), he's already 33 and there aren't many teams that are just a Dame away from contending. Lastly, matching his salary is difficult as most times it will involve moving key pieces you'd want to keep around to help you win with him.

Pelicans can do it plus BRK only doing it to keep Bridges. But they got all PHX picks plus joe harris, simmons, dinwiddie. Nba lanscape has changed. Anyone thinks they can win rightly or wrongly. Look what miami just pulled off.There wont be a ton of suitors but there will be some that can make it work. Going back to my original point, POR should just draft scoot/miller which is what i think they do.

[Rapsfan07]

Put him on the market and teams will be aggressive for him. Had a very good season last year. Houston could be a player, same with Pelicans. BRK as well with the Bridges connection.

I can't see Houston. Not unless Harden actually goes there and even if he does, they don't have the salary to make a trade work for Lillard.

Sane with Brooklyn. The only guys they have under contract that have enough salary to make deal work is Bridges, Simmons and Finney-Smith. If they have to move Bridges, it defeats the purpose and while they could sign and trade some of their FAs instead, I don't see a team where your best players are Lillard and Bridges being a contender.

Pelicans have the assets but they'd have to be willing to move Ingram, Nance, one of Herb/Daniels/Murphy and some picks PLUS you'd be back to the Lillard/McCollum backcourt which didn't work the first time

I think the Heat would be a phenomenal destination but Portland would have to be willing to take two of Herro and either Lowry or Robinson plus picks.

So really just the Heat and the Pels have offers that would give Portland reasonable return. If Portland doesn't care too much about what they get back then maybe options open up a little more but even then, he's really expensive (both now and in the future), he's already 33 and there aren't many teams that are just a Dame away from contending. Lastly, matching his salary is difficult as most times it will involve moving key pieces you'd want to keep around to help you win with him.

Pelicans can do it plus BRK only doing it to keep Bridges. But they got all PHX picks plus joe harris, simmons, dinwiddie. Nba lanscape has changed. Anyone thinks they can win rightly or wrongly. Look what miami just pulled off.There wont be a ton of suitors but there will be some that can make it work. Going back to my original point, POR should just draft scoot/miller which is what i think they do.

I definitely agree with this part. I never believed Siakam was going to be able to net us #3 in the first place tbh.

I am still holding out hope that he can net us a Simons and Sharpe package though.

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He's got that jamal murray twitch for sure.

Thing is, Jamal put up splits of 45/40/78 as a freshman so he was more of a sure thing.

I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and believe the talk around town that he was playing injured during the season.

I guess at least he shot 79% FT's so that indicates he's likely better than 37% shooting. Perhaps shot-selection was just poor.

[Psubs]

I can't see Houston. Not unless Harden actually goes there and even if he does, they don't have the salary to make a trade work for Lillard.

Sane with Brooklyn. The only guys they have under contract that have enough salary to make deal work is Bridges, Simmons and Finney-Smith. If they have to move Bridges, it defeats the purpose and while they could sign and trade some of their FAs instead, I don't see a team where your best players are Lillard and Bridges being a contender.

Pelicans have the assets but they'd have to be willing to move Ingram, Nance, one of Herb/Daniels/Murphy and some picks PLUS you'd be back to the Lillard/McCollum backcourt which didn't work the first time

I think the Heat would be a phenomenal destination but Portland would have to be willing to take two of Herro and either Lowry or Robinson plus picks.

So really just the Heat and the Pels have offers that would give Portland reasonable return. If Portland doesn't care too much about what they get back then maybe options open up a little more but even then, he's really expensive (both now and in the future), he's already 33 and there aren't many teams that are just a Dame away from contending. Lastly, matching his salary is difficult as most times it will involve moving key pieces you'd want to keep around to help you win with him.

Pelicans can do it plus BRK only doing it to keep Bridges. But they got all PHX picks plus joe harris, simmons, dinwiddie. Nba lanscape has changed. Anyone thinks they can win rightly or wrongly. Look what miami just pulled off.There wont be a ton of suitors but there will be some that can make it work. Going back to my original point, POR should just draft scoot/miller which is what i think they do.

I definitely agree with this part. I never believed Siakam was going to be able to net us #3 in the first place tbh.

I am still holding out hope that he can net us a Simons and Sharpe package though.

Likely Simons for salary but not Sharpe. #3, Simons, Nurkic and future 1st pick is likely the max. I'd give Pascal and Flynn.

[Rapsfan07]

Pelicans can do it plus BRK only doing it to keep Bridges. But they got all PHX picks plus joe harris, simmons, dinwiddie. Nba lanscape has changed. Anyone thinks they can win rightly or wrongly. Look what miami just pulled off.There wont be a ton of suitors but there will be some that can make it work. Going back to my original point, POR should just draft scoot/miller which is what i think they do.

I definitely agree with this part. I never believed Siakam was going to be able to net us #3 in the first place tbh.

I am still holding out hope that he can net us a Simons and Sharpe package though.

Likely Simons for salary but not Sharpe. #3, Simons, Nurkic and future 1st pick is likely the max. I'd give Pascal and Flynn.

I'd take that too. If they'd rather stick with the proven talent and keep Sharpe over #3, I'd take that as well.

But it'd need to be a much bigger deal as we have no need for Nurkic

The issue with the Trailblazers is that they have more than a few holes but they don't want to trade their assets to fill those holes...well, their fans don't anyway. Who knows what their actually front office is willing to do.

Portland needs a defensive-minded C, a starting SG, a co-star for Lillard and viable backup PG.

I'm not sure getting all of those things are possible with just Simons and #3. Most of their salary is expired and they don't want to trade Sharpe. So...idk.

[WuTang_CMB]

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Can we have them both playing for the 905 next year!

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I definitely agree with this part. I never believed Siakam was going to be able to net us #3 in the first place tbh.

I am still holding out hope that he can net us a Simons and Sharpe package though.

Likely Simons for salary but not Sharpe. #3, Simons, Nurkic and future 1st pick is likely the max. I'd give Pascal and Flynn.

I'd take that too. If they'd rather stick with the proven talent and keep Sharpe over #3, I'd take that as well.

But it'd need to be a much bigger deal as we have no need for Nurkic

The issue with the Trailblazers is that they have more than a few holes but they don't want to trade their assets to fill those holes...well, their fans don't anyway. Who knows what their actually front office is willing to do.

Portland needs a defensive-minded C, a starting SG, a co-star for Lillard and viable backup PG.

I'm not sure getting all of those things are possible with just Simons and #3. Most of their salary is expired and they don't want to trade Sharpe. So...idk.

I was thinking Nurkic to Dallas for Bertans? 1 year less and Dallas can let Dwight Powell walk to help pay to re-sign Kyrie.

Actually, I think Tim Hardaway Jr might be better? Or send THJr to Indiana for Hield or NY for expiring Fournier?

[Indeed]

For gods sake please draft a true hooper. None of the intangibles shiiit like length and height.

I need a player who can just hoop. Ball handling/Play making/finishing at the rim/shooting....please

Malachi Flynn
Without length and height, it is hard to finish though

[Psubs]

For gods sake please draft a true hooper. None of the intangibles shiiit like length and height.

I need a player who can just hoop. Ball handling/Play making/finishing at the rim/shooting....please

Malachi Flynn
Without length and height, it is hard to finish though

Sounds like Bufkin. I think he does a little bit of all of that above average.

[JShuttlesworth]

OG to Indiana for #7, #26, Nemhard and future 1st.

Draft Coulibaly and Hawkins

Nemhard
Hawkins
Barnes
Pascal
Poeltl

I don't think anyone is giving up 3 FRP's and a prospect for OG -- Salaries don't match either

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[JShuttlesworth]

Keyonte George, Nick Smith Jr, or Jordan Hawkins

I think we're going to end up with one of those three with the 13th pick

[Psubs]

OG to Indiana for #7, #26, Nemhard and future 1st.

Draft Coulibaly and Hawkins

Nemhard
Hawkins
Barnes
Pascal
Poeltl

I don't think anyone is giving up 3 FRP's and a prospect for OG -- Salaries don't match either

Probably have to instead of Nembhard do Hield (for salary), #7, #26 and 2024 2nd pick

[Indeed]

For gods sake please draft a true hooper. None of the intangibles shiiit like length and height.

I need a player who can just hoop. Ball handling/Play making/finishing at the rim/shooting....please

Malachi Flynn
Without length and height, it is hard to finish though

Sounds like Bufkin. I think he does a little bit of all of that above average.

Above average for SG wing, above average for PG combo guard.
His lane agility is a concern to me, not sure if it is accurate.