show me one realistic Dame trade

[BlazersBroncos]

How far off is this...

Portland trades: Lillard & Little
Boston trades Brown & Bogdon

Portland trades: Simons
Orlando trades: Harris, #11

PG Bogdon / Scoot / Johnson / #43 Pick
SG Thybulle / Sharpe
SF Brown / #11 Pick
PF Grant / Watford / Walker
_C Nurkic / #23 Pick / Eubanks

If the Blazers end up with Miller instead of Scoot, they use the #11 pick on a PF.

I dont think that is off based on the Brown smoke - and especially if they dont make the finals. But IMO that builds PDX quite the treadmill team (Brown is a perennial #2 IMO due to his crap handle and creation). I would hope to reroute Brown elsewhere and get a prospect in the 23/24 and under range and picks.

[Jsun947]

How far off is this...

Portland trades: Lillard & Little
Boston trades Brown & Bogdon

Portland trades: Simons
Orlando trades: Harris, #11

PG Bogdon / Scoot / Johnson / #43 Pick
SG Thybulle / Sharpe
SF Brown / #11 Pick
PF Grant / Watford / Walker
_C Nurkic / #23 Pick / Eubanks

If the Blazers end up with Miller instead of Scoot, they use the #11 pick on a PF.

I think it would be infinitely better to make a deal like this a three way where we get younger. Guys 25-30 in their prime and on expiring or near expiring deals are likely to be a flight risk and don’t line up with the rest of our new core. Plus having cap flexibility with the new CBA rules would be nice.


Portland trades: Lillard, Little, Simons, Grant S&T
Portland receives: #4, Smith, Sengun, Porter Jr, S&T Williams

Boston trades: Brown & S&T Williams
Boston Receives: Lillard & Little

Portland trades: Simons
Orlando trades: Harris, #11

Houston Trades: #4, Smith, Sengun, Porter Jr
Houston Receives: Brown, S&T Grant, Nurkic, #11

End up with a core of something like

Amen Thompson
Sharpe
Miller
Smith
Sengun

If Houston really thinks they are getting Harden they end up with

Harden
Green
Brown
Grant
Nurkic
#11

Which is pretty good compared to where they are now. The deal might be a little rich on the Blazers end and I confess I don’t know wtf Houston supposedly wants Harden so bad.

[Pattycakes]

How far off is this...

Portland trades: Lillard & Little
Boston trades Brown & Bogdon

Portland trades: Simons
Orlando trades: Harris, #11

PG Bogdon / Scoot / Johnson / #43 Pick
SG Thybulle / Sharpe
SF Brown / #11 Pick
PF Grant / Watford / Walker
_C Nurkic / #23 Pick / Eubanks

If the Blazers end up with Miller instead of Scoot, they use the #11 pick on a PF.

I dont think that is off based on the Brown smoke - and especially if they dont make the finals. But IMO that builds PDX quite the treadmill team (Brown is a perennial #2 IMO due to his crap handle and creation). I would hope to reroute Brown elsewhere and get a prospect in the 23/24 and under range and picks.

Just quoting to say I’m starting shaedon over matisse 39 days a week, and Nurkic especially (Jerami a bit too) I don’t see with the remaining of that roster. If dame goes, nurk will be close.

[BlazersBroncos]

Portland trades: Lillard, Little, Simons, Grant S&T
Portland receives: #4, Smith, Sengun, Porter Jr, S&T Williams

Boston trades: Brown & S&T Williams
Boston Receives: Lillard & Little

Portland trades: Simons
Orlando trades: Harris, #11

Houston Trades: #4, Smith, Sengun, Porter Jr
Houston Receives: Brown, S&T Grant, Nurkic, #11

End up with a core of something like

Amen Thompson
Sharpe
Miller
Smith
Sengun

This is a great rebuild squad IMO. Length and size everywhere to compensate for Sengun, shooters 2-4, elite passers 1 & 5, super young. Only would worry about character - IE who is the leader. Thompsons came off well in their interview at the lotto so maybe he can be that guy.

[The Sebastian Express]

If push comes to shove, I'd do that. I don't think Houston does it. Boston only does it if Brown wants to leave, imo.

I would pick Black over Thompson, though, I think. Also would reroute Sengun to a different team.

[BNM]

I think if BOS and/or MIA fails to win the title this year, they would be the most likely targets for a Dame trade.

MIA has the salaries to match in Lowry (1 year left) and Oladipo (player option). A larger package could include Herro for Nurk or Simons, or possibly a 3rd team getting Herro and throwing more draft picks at POR.

[BNM]

How far off is this...

Portland trades: Lillard & Little
Boston trades Brown & Bogdon

Portland trades: Simons
Orlando trades: Harris, #11

PG Bogdon / Scoot / Johnson / #43 Pick
SG Thybulle / Sharpe
SF Brown / #11 Pick
PF Grant / Watford / Walker
_C Nurkic / #23 Pick / Eubanks

If the Blazers end up with Miller instead of Scoot, they use the #11 pick on a PF.

That team is worse than the current team, so best case, if 100% healthy, a marginal play-in team. In that case, I would 100% go with the young guys and start Scoot over Brogdon and Sharpe over Thybulle. I'd also let Grant walk and look to move Nurk for more youth.

[zzaj]

Portland trades: Lillard, Little, Simons, Grant S&T
Portland receives: #4, Smith, Sengun, Porter Jr, S&T Williams

Boston trades: Brown & S&T Williams
Boston Receives: Lillard & Little

Portland trades: Simons
Orlando trades: Harris, #11

Houston Trades: #4, Smith, Sengun, Porter Jr
Houston Receives: Brown, S&T Grant, Nurkic, #11

End up with a core of something like

Amen Thompson
Sharpe
Miller
Smith
Sengun

This is a great rebuild squad IMO. Length and size everywhere to compensate for Sengun, shooters 2-4, elite passers 1 & 5, super young. Only would worry about character - IE who is the leader. Thompsons came off well in their interview at the lotto so maybe he can be that guy.

It'd be an exciting team to watch for sure...but who plays PG? Thompson? I feel like in today's NBA you basically HAVE to have a PG that can hit 3pters. The genesis of almost all offensive sets are based around PG triple threat from the 3pt line.

[BlazersBroncos]

Portland trades: Lillard, Little, Simons, Grant S&T
Portland receives: #4, Smith, Sengun, Porter Jr, S&T Williams

Boston trades: Brown & S&T Williams
Boston Receives: Lillard & Little

Portland trades: Simons
Orlando trades: Harris, #11

Houston Trades: #4, Smith, Sengun, Porter Jr
Houston Receives: Brown, S&T Grant, Nurkic, #11

End up with a core of something like

Amen Thompson
Sharpe
Miller
Smith
Sengun

This is a great rebuild squad IMO. Length and size everywhere to compensate for Sengun, shooters 2-4, elite passers 1 & 5, super young. Only would worry about character - IE who is the leader. Thompsons came off well in their interview at the lotto so maybe he can be that guy.

It'd be an exciting team to watch for sure...but who plays PG? Thompson? I feel like in today's NBA you basically HAVE to have a PG that can hit 3pters. The genesis of almost all offensive sets are based around PG triple threat from the 3pt line.

Amen has such a special first step, functional athleticism and court vision that I would roll the dice he can develop a shot. He is a freak with the ball in his hands in all facets of the game outside shooting - which granted is the most important aspect of a guard. But if he can become even a 32-35% guy from 3, his other traits make him worth it.

Morant is a 32% 3PT shooter over his career - Trae 35% - Fox 32% - Dejounte 33% - there is a path to a lead guard not being a great shooter if they excel in other facets of the game. And having Sharpe, Miller and Smith around said guard will make it even easier to make work (Smith is going to be a quality 3PT guy, just adjusting still IMO)

[Jsun947]

This is a great rebuild squad IMO. Length and size everywhere to compensate for Sengun, shooters 2-4, elite passers 1 & 5, super young. Only would worry about character - IE who is the leader. Thompsons came off well in their interview at the lotto so maybe he can be that guy.

It'd be an exciting team to watch for sure...but who plays PG? Thompson? I feel like in today's NBA you basically HAVE to have a PG that can hit 3pters. The genesis of almost all offensive sets are based around PG triple threat from the 3pt line.

Amen has such a special first step, functional athleticism and court vision that I would roll the dice he can develop a shot. He is a freak with the ball in his hands in all facets of the game outside shooting - which granted is the most important aspect of a guard. But if he can become even a 32-35% guy from 3, his other traits make him worth it.

Morant is a 32% 3PT shooter over his career - Trae 35% - Fox 32% - Dejounte 33% - there is a path to a lead guard not being a great shooter if they excel in other facets of the game. And having Sharpe, Miller and Smith around said guard will make it even easier to make work (Smith is going to be a quality 3PT guy, just adjusting still IMO)

Ya, I don’t think this is a huge problem unless you can’t surround the point guard with spacing or offensive play making at other positions. His athleticism and passing is off the charts.

This type of deal would also leave us with 50-60 million in cap space basically the next 3 years (or 80-90 mil if we moved on from Porter & Williams) and we’d be bad enough short term to have opportunities to upgrade the roster via the draft.

Frankly I think there’s going to be a lot of demand for taking contracts in exchange for draft picks as the new CBA gets more restrictive to tax paying teams.

[zzaj]

This is a great rebuild squad IMO. Length and size everywhere to compensate for Sengun, shooters 2-4, elite passers 1 & 5, super young. Only would worry about character - IE who is the leader. Thompsons came off well in their interview at the lotto so maybe he can be that guy.

It'd be an exciting team to watch for sure...but who plays PG? Thompson? I feel like in today's NBA you basically HAVE to have a PG that can hit 3pters. The genesis of almost all offensive sets are based around PG triple threat from the 3pt line.

Amen has such a special first step, functional athleticism and court vision that I would roll the dice he can develop a shot. He is a freak with the ball in his hands in all facets of the game outside shooting - which granted is the most important aspect of a guard. But if he can become even a 32-35% guy from 3, his other traits make him worth it.

Morant is a 32% 3PT shooter over his career - Trae 35% - Fox 32% - Dejounte 33% - there is a path to a lead guard not being a great shooter if they excel in other facets of the game. And having Sharpe, Miller and Smith around said guard will make it even easier to make work (Smith is going to be a quality 3PT guy, just adjusting still IMO)

Cool, yeah...I love a lot of his game. He did shoot .2333pt and 64% from the foul line. I'm not sure that's going to translate to 35% in the NBA, even with improvement. Additionally, there is probably no bigger leap that players have to take--PG in the NBA.

Anyway, just interesting to think about is all. I do wonder how teams will utilize Amen from day one. With his brother it's a little clearer...

[KL78192020]

Dame for Ja? If Memphis feels hes toxic for them, although I doubt it, to young to give up on.

[DusterBuster]

Dame for Ja? If Memphis feels hes toxic for them, although I doubt it, to young to give up on.

I'd just as soon trade Dame for free to Miami.

[mighty_duck]

I fear the extension we signed Dame to is going to tank his trade value. As good as he was this year, the thought of paying him 60m a year in years 3 and 4 will scare away some trading partners, or cause the price they are willing to pay to drop.

In terms of actual deals. Besides the Nets (Simmons + picks) or Miami (Lowry +picks), we may need to do a three team deal.
Min may be ready to move on from their failed twin tower experiment, and move either KAT or Gobert. A few teams could use one of those big men, and owns draft capital.

[Norm2953]

Let's see who emerges from the ECF. If Boston survives, Miami might just pull the trigger on a
package built around Tyler Herro and a bunch of picks/swaps.

Not a trade I would particularly like but they could send out Dame, Jimmy and Bam as their big3
to terrorize the EC and Portland perhaps could spin Herro elsewhere, for he's a 20ppg scorer.

[GEE]

IMHO, Some form of a Brown for Dame trade would be be amazing, feesible and would ABSOLUTELY get this team off the treadmill. Several variations and ways to make the $'s work.

Brooklyn was my pick as the most likely landing spot for Dame, but considering how the C's just went down O-2 by losing both in the Garden, and now facing a potential sweep... I think Dame's potential market just got flaming hot.

As for the secondary suggested trades... Easy Pass. If we could somehow offload the load of crap that is Nurkic by including him in the Beantown trade, and fleece the C's of Pritchard and Timelord with some pick compensation... I'd call that a HOMERUN and would be calling for Cronin to get GMoty.

[King Ken]

Pelicans

[GEE]

How far off is this...

Portland trades: Lillard & Little
Boston trades Brown & Bogdon

Portland trades: Simons
Orlando trades: Harris, #11

PG Bogdon / Scoot / Johnson / #43 Pick
SG Thybulle / Sharpe
SF Brown / #11 Pick
PF Grant / Watford / Walker
_C Nurkic / #23 Pick / Eubanks

If the Blazers end up with Miller instead of Scoot, they use the #11 pick on a PF.

I dont think that is off based on the Brown smoke - and especially if they dont make the finals. But IMO that builds PDX quite the treadmill team (Brown is a perennial #2 IMO due to his crap handle and creation). I would hope to reroute Brown elsewhere and get a prospect in the 23/24 and under range and picks.

- I like the idea of a simple Dame for Brown swap, but again... I'd be in love if we could also include Nurkic in the deal and somehow snatch up Timelord and Prtchard in the process. I'd also strongly consider not resigning Grant in this case.

- If I could do the above without using up more than a couple 2nds to sweeten the deal, I would turn my focus to the PF position, assuming we draft Scoot (hypothetical and have no personal preference who we take at #3), I'd be left with that NYK pick to send to the Bulls, which I'd be in favor of.

- At this point, if done, I now have access to my future picks to use in trade, but still no PF. Like always, my way is to identify the target you want, and then use whatever assets it takes to get THE GUY you want, if at all possible and within reason. At PF, for our Trailblazers I think the target at the top of my list would be RUI!!! I'd start the bidding to the Lakers at Little or Keon and a future FRP, then add as many 2nds as needed. Hopefully that would do it, and I think it might as I think the Lakers might love getting that pick (and a 2nd or two/they don't have many picks iirc) over keeping RUI, beleiving he's replaceable because they are so smart having found him in the first place, they can surely just find another Diamond in the Rough. Their arrogance maybe wins us the day.

Nothing above strikes me as unfeesible or unrealistic and THE RESULT:

Simons / Scoot / Pritchard
Sharpe / Thybulle
Brown / Knox
RUI / Watford / Walker
Timelord / Eubanks / #43

TEAM REBUILT!!! Bigger / Stronger / Younger / Faster... RIP CITY BABY!!!

[JordanMars]

how bout tyrese maxey and tobias harris?

[GEE]

how bout tyrese maxey and tobias harris?

Respectfully, I think that if and when Harden heads south, Moreys very first call might be similar to what you are offering. It's not terrible, but I think that Dame could easily have a BIDDING WAR, if he make himself available, and when he eventually provides his list, it's no smaller than 3 teams and is at least willing to listen to as many as 6.

I think this is going to be THE year though, and fairly soon after the playoffs are over. If Dame wants to go, now's the time as his value can't get better, and his' market WILL be bananas, and should be done before the draft, which ain't that far away. Gonna start gettin' hot!