2023 NBA Draft Thread 3

[Knightro]

I cooled on Scoot as the is past season progressed, but looking back at his scouting videos - yeah, that’s a guy you take a gamble on. He’s certainly more promise than proof right now, but if the package comes together it’s unstoppable. I see him as Anthony Edwards in a Donovan Mitchell size.

He could be in for a rough couple of first seasons but he’ll come good by the end of his rookie contract. He may even hit the ground running, who knows. I don’t have the same confidence in a Thompson twin, Whitmore, or other player fulfilling their potential the way I think Scoot is likely to.

If 6+11 gets him we should jump on it. I wouldn’t include any of WCJ, Paolo, Franz or Suggs, but most other players on the table within reason.

John Hollinger on The Athletic openly speculated that Scoot basically was in cruise control this whole season knowing that he was pretty much locked into being a top 3 pick regardless of how he did.

Not sure if that's true or not, but I could see him playing to not get hurt (of course the irony is that he got small injuries multiple times) in what amounts of meaningless G-League games.

[RookieStar]

Hot take, I think its a five player draft. Wemby, Scoot, Amen, Ausar, and Keyonte.

Whitemore is too small, Miller has too many off court red flags.

Whitmore too small?
Goerge is smaller.

They are both small-to- average at their size in their projected position. Which is 6'6 for a SF( if he was 6'5 barefoot) and 6'3ish ( he didnt measure ) for a SG

[Ralof]

Free Agent Point Guard
Brandon
Franz
Paolo
Wendell

Miller is not a guard.
making him guard way quicker guys since his nba day one would be a mistake imho,making more difficult for him since the beginning.

tbh,i really do not understand this general obsession to go big at all cost.
N.B:nothing personal,indeed

[Petre1978]

https://www.nba.com/magic/news/2023-nba-draft-class-filled-with-frontcourt-versatility-20230518

[Bensational]

I cooled on Scoot as the is past season progressed, but looking back at his scouting videos - yeah, that’s a guy you take a gamble on. He’s certainly more promise than proof right now, but if the package comes together it’s unstoppable. I see him as Anthony Edwards in a Donovan Mitchell size.

He could be in for a rough couple of first seasons but he’ll come good by the end of his rookie contract. He may even hit the ground running, who knows. I don’t have the same confidence in a Thompson twin, Whitmore, or other player fulfilling their potential the way I think Scoot is likely to.

If 6+11 gets him we should jump on it. I wouldn’t include any of WCJ, Paolo, Franz or Suggs, but most other players on the table within reason.

John Hollinger on The Athletic openly speculated that Scoot basically was in cruise control this whole season knowing that he was pretty much locked into being a top 3 pick regardless of how he did.

Not sure if that's true or not, but I could see him playing to not get hurt (of course the irony is that he got small injuries multiple times) in what amounts of meaningless G-League games.

That would be a bit of a red flag. He should still have the pride to want to take the Ignite to a championship and improve his game. Might have cost himself a spot to Miller if that’s what he did.

Either way, still worth the gamble. I can really see an Edwards/Mitchell type ability to get his shot off, he just needs to show he can finish as efficiently as they can.

Hot take: if we made this move I think he either starts at the 2 alongside Fultz or he comes off the bench as 6th man to run point. I don’t think we hand him playmaking reigns while we’re trying to be a competitive team until he shows he can handle it.

[Magic#1]

I cooled on Scoot as the is past season progressed, but looking back at his scouting videos - yeah, that’s a guy you take a gamble on. He’s certainly more promise than proof right now, but if the package comes together it’s unstoppable. I see him as Anthony Edwards in a Donovan Mitchell size.

He could be in for a rough couple of first seasons but he’ll come good by the end of his rookie contract. He may even hit the ground running, who knows. I don’t have the same confidence in a Thompson twin, Whitmore, or other player fulfilling their potential the way I think Scoot is likely to.

If 6+11 gets him we should jump on it. I wouldn’t include any of WCJ, Paolo, Franz or Suggs, but most other players on the table within reason.

John Hollinger on The Athletic openly speculated that Scoot basically was in cruise control this whole season knowing that he was pretty much locked into being a top 3 pick regardless of how he did.

Not sure if that's true or not, but I could see him playing to not get hurt (of course the irony is that he got small injuries multiple times) in what amounts of meaningless G-League games.

The reason I'm so high on Scoot is that he's a self-described dawg, and that's just what this team needs. We need someone who has that killer competitive streak. Shooting is a skill that can be found in free agency. Even with our improvement I still that this team is one potential great all-star level player away from eventually contending. Scoot is the one who fits on the team the best. You put him on our current roster and everyone gets immediately better. I agree I wouldn't give up WCJ (maybe), Paolo, Franz or Suggs, but I'd go 6,11, any other players and at least two future picks. It really depends on what Portland is planning to do if we can make a deal.

[RookieStar]

I cooled on Scoot as the is past season progressed, but looking back at his scouting videos - yeah, that’s a guy you take a gamble on. He’s certainly more promise than proof right now, but if the package comes together it’s unstoppable. I see him as Anthony Edwards in a Donovan Mitchell size.

He could be in for a rough couple of first seasons but he’ll come good by the end of his rookie contract. He may even hit the ground running, who knows. I don’t have the same confidence in a Thompson twin, Whitmore, or other player fulfilling their potential the way I think Scoot is likely to.

If 6+11 gets him we should jump on it. I wouldn’t include any of WCJ, Paolo, Franz or Suggs, but most other players on the table within reason.

John Hollinger on The Athletic openly speculated that Scoot basically was in cruise control this whole season knowing that he was pretty much locked into being a top 3 pick regardless of how he did.

Not sure if that's true or not, but I could see him playing to not get hurt (of course the irony is that he got small injuries multiple times) in what amounts of meaningless G-League games.

The reason I'm so high on Scoot is that he's a self-described dawg, and that's just what this team needs. We need someone who has that killer competitive streak. Shooting is a skill that can be found in free agency. Even with our improvement I still that this team is one potential great all-star level player away from eventually contending. Scoot is the one who fits on the team the best. You put him on our current roster and everyone gets immediately better. I agree I wouldn't give up WCJ (maybe), Paolo, Franz or Suggs, but I'd go 6,11, any other players and at least two future picks. It really depends on what Portland is planning to do if we can make a deal.

It has to be a 3 team if we trade with POR unless we give up Franz/Paolo/WCJ. They wanna win now. Two more rookies wont help Dame.

[RookieStar]

I cooled on Scoot as the is past season progressed, but looking back at his scouting videos - yeah, that’s a guy you take a gamble on. He’s certainly more promise than proof right now, but if the package comes together it’s unstoppable. I see him as Anthony Edwards in a Donovan Mitchell size.

He could be in for a rough couple of first seasons but he’ll come good by the end of his rookie contract. He may even hit the ground running, who knows. I don’t have the same confidence in a Thompson twin, Whitmore, or other player fulfilling their potential the way I think Scoot is likely to.

If 6+11 gets him we should jump on it. I wouldn’t include any of WCJ, Paolo, Franz or Suggs, but most other players on the table within reason.

John Hollinger on The Athletic openly speculated that Scoot basically was in cruise control this whole season knowing that he was pretty much locked into being a top 3 pick regardless of how he did.

Not sure if that's true or not, but I could see him playing to not get hurt (of course the irony is that he got small injuries multiple times) in what amounts of meaningless G-League games.

That would be a bit of a red flag. He should still have the pride to want to take the Ignite to a championship and improve his game. Might have cost himself a spot to Miller if that’s what he did.

Either way, still worth the gamble. I can really see an Edwards/Mitchell type ability to get his shot off, he just needs to show he can finish as efficiently as they can.

Hot take: if we made this move I think he either starts at the 2 alongside Fultz or he comes off the bench as 6th man to run point. I don’t think we hand him playmaking reigns while we’re trying to be a competitive team until he shows he can handle it.

I think this is all the fault of Sharpe. The dude didnt even play 1 game in college but hanged around the UK team and practiced with them. He both got injiry-free compared to guys like whitehead (now) and preserved his high school status without showing weaknesses. He got rewarded woth the 6th pick.

Scoot is basically semi-following that. When the 3pt percentage shooting goes down, he immediately shut it down while his stock is still up. Instead he is *working* with Curry amd etc

Similarities much?

[basketballRob]

Hot take, I think its a five player draft. Wemby, Scoot, Amen, Ausar, and Keyonte.

Whitemore is too small, Miller has too many off court red flags.

Whitmore too small?
Goerge is smaller.

The point there is that Whitemore is too small for a forward. 6'6 with a 6'8 wingspan is pretty bad.

It works for Jimmy Butler.

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[eyriq]

Whitmore too small?
Goerge is smaller.

The point there is that Whitemore is too small for a forward. 6'6 with a 6'8 wingspan is pretty bad.

It works for Jimmy Butler.

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Hmm, they are pretty much the same size. Good call. I guess I wouldn't hate the pick as I could def get behind that hype train, haha

[NYG]

Is it wrong to assume Orlando goes BPA at 6 even if it's Ausar then fit at 11?

The front office will 100% tell us whoever they picked at 6 was the player they considered to be the best player available.

Not a Blazers fan, but just curious... if Simons and 23 for 11 were offered, would you take it? If so, who would you send as outgoing salary?

[Bensational]

Is it wrong to assume Orlando goes BPA at 6 even if it's Ausar then fit at 11?

The front office will 100% tell us whoever they picked at 6 was the player they considered to be the best player available.

Not a Blazers fan, but just curious... if Simons and 23 for 11 were offered, would you take it? If so, who would you send as outgoing salary?

I’d jump all over that. We can absorb his salary if need be, otherwise we could send any of Isaac or Harris back.

[Residual-Heat]

The front office will 100% tell us whoever they picked at 6 was the player they considered to be the best player available.

Not a Blazers fan, but just curious... if Simons and 23 for 11 were offered, would you take it? If so, who would you send as outgoing salary?

I’d jump all over that. We can absorb his salary if need be, otherwise we could send any of Isaac or Harris back.

Yeah id do it too, probably would try to draft Lively with 23 or even try to package that pick with #36 to move up a few spots for a better chance at drafting him.

[eyriq]

Is it wrong to assume Orlando goes BPA at 6 even if it's Ausar then fit at 11?

The front office will 100% tell us whoever they picked at 6 was the player they considered to be the best player available.

Not a Blazers fan, but just curious... if Simons and 23 for 11 were offered, would you take it? If so, who would you send as outgoing salary?

Sending Jonathan Isaac, Okeke, &11 for Simons & 23 seems super interesting.

[NYG]

The front office will 100% tell us whoever they picked at 6 was the player they considered to be the best player available.

Not a Blazers fan, but just curious... if Simons and 23 for 11 were offered, would you take it? If so, who would you send as outgoing salary?

Sending Jonathan Isaac, Okeke, &11 for Simons & 23 seems super interesting.

Im not a Magic, Raptors or Blazers fan but my idea is

OG, 11 and 13 to Portland

Isaac and 3 to Toronto

Simons and 23 to Orlando

[eyriq]

Not a Blazers fan, but just curious... if Simons and 23 for 11 were offered, would you take it? If so, who would you send as outgoing salary?

Sending Jonathan Isaac, Okeke, &11 for Simons & 23 seems super interesting.

Im not a Magic, Raptors or Blazers fan but my idea is

OG, 11 and 13 to Portland

Isaac and 3 to Toronto

Simons and 23 to Orlando

That is an amazing framework. Great job!

[mattdelray1220]

Sending Jonathan Isaac, Okeke, &11 for Simons & 23 seems super interesting.

Im not a Magic, Raptors or Blazers fan but my idea is

OG, 11 and 13 to Portland

Isaac and 3 to Toronto

Simons and 23 to Orlando

That is an amazing framework. Great job!

If JI is Harris and Bol - I am in. I do however believe the FO thinks Suggs is the future SG.

[Skybox]

Is it wrong to assume Orlando goes BPA at 6 even if it's Ausar then fit at 11?

The front office will 100% tell us whoever they picked at 6 was the player they considered to be the best player available.

Not a Blazers fan, but just curious... if Simons and 23 for 11 were offered, would you take it? If so, who would you send as outgoing salary?

Fultz…$17m expiring and Okeke

[basketballRob]

The great thing about drafting 6th is that Anthony Black will be there.

Watch on YouTube

[Ralof]

periodic reminder:when you talk about draft or trade for a shooting guard,remember next season has to be the year Jalen Suggs should explode.