2022-2023 Magic Trade and Free Agency Idea Thread II

[Knightro]

I know it's blasphemy but headline says "POR may package #3 and Simons for a wing"...

POR sends #3(Scoot), Simons, #23 for Franz, Fultz, DEN 25 frp

[eyriq]

https://theathletic.com/4535111/2023/05/19/nba-draft-rumors-notes-hollinger?source=user-shared-article

My favorite fake trade, however, kills two birds with one stone by resolving the Magic’s backcourt issue. Orlando holds pick Nos. 6 and 11 and would likely be tempted to trade up and take Henderson if the Hornets select Miller at No. 2. Could some combination of the sixth and 11th picks and another asset allow the Magic to move up to No. 3?

[Knightro]

https://theathletic.com/4535111/2023/05/19/nba-draft-rumors-notes-hollinger?source=user-shared-article

My favorite fake trade, however, kills two birds with one stone by resolving the Magic’s backcourt issue. Orlando holds pick Nos. 6 and 11 and would likely be tempted to trade up and take Henderson if the Hornets select Miller at No. 2. Could some combination of the sixth and 11th picks and another asset allow the Magic to move up to No. 3?

This is the way (depending on what that other asset is).

[CarraT]

https://theathletic.com/4535111/2023/05/19/nba-draft-rumors-notes-hollinger?source=user-shared-article

My favorite fake trade, however, kills two birds with one stone by resolving the Magic’s backcourt issue. Orlando holds pick Nos. 6 and 11 and would likely be tempted to trade up and take Henderson if the Hornets select Miller at No. 2. Could some combination of the sixth and 11th picks and another asset allow the Magic to move up to No. 3?

This is the way (depending on what that other asset is).

Shouldn’t be much in my opinion. 6+11 is good value. But I’d be willing to package anything beside Franz/Paolo/WCJ (and maybe Suggs) for Scoot

[VFX]

https://theathletic.com/4535111/2023/05/19/nba-draft-rumors-notes-hollinger?source=user-shared-article

This is the way (depending on what that other asset is).

Shouldn’t be much in my opinion. 6+11 is good value. But I’d be willing to package anything beside Franz/Paolo/and Suggs for Scoot

Fify

[cedric76]

https://theathletic.com/4535111/2023/05/19/nba-draft-rumors-notes-hollinger?source=user-shared-article

My favorite fake trade, however, kills two birds with one stone by resolving the Magic’s backcourt issue. Orlando holds pick Nos. 6 and 11 and would likely be tempted to trade up and take Henderson if the Hornets select Miller at No. 2. Could some combination of the sixth and 11th picks and another asset allow the Magic to move up to No. 3?

2 birds with one stone???? What does adding Scott to our team solves?

He is not what our team needs

[Knightro]

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6, 11, Carter for 3, Nurkic

I'd probably do it.

Then you could flip Fultz for something (or cut him loose) and sign a center in free agency.

[Magic#1]

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6, 11, Carter for 3, Nurkic

I'd probably do it.

Then you could flip Fultz for something (or cut him loose) and sign a center in free agency.

I'd hate to lose Dell, but if Scoot is there at 3 and you have a Derek Rose-type grade on him, you take that deal.
According to WT it sounds like the Blazers are looking for more of an immediate All Star level type player. Outside of maybe Beal or Brown, I'm not sure who will be available. If I'm Portland, I wait to see what Charlotte does. If Miller is available, you take him and see what the current roster can do with him. If Scoot is there, as painful as it would be for that city, trading Dame and restarting with a crap ton of assets makes the most sense to me. Here's hoping they think it would be better to trade down for picks and assets.

[Audi]

https://theathletic.com/4535111/2023/05/19/nba-draft-rumors-notes-hollinger?source=user-shared-article

My favorite fake trade, however, kills two birds with one stone by resolving the Magic’s backcourt issue. Orlando holds pick Nos. 6 and 11 and would likely be tempted to trade up and take Henderson if the Hornets select Miller at No. 2. Could some combination of the sixth and 11th picks and another asset allow the Magic to move up to No. 3?

I don’t get it. If the team’s “backcourt issue” is 3pt shooting, how is Scoot the answer?

[eyriq]

https://theathletic.com/4535111/2023/05/19/nba-draft-rumors-notes-hollinger?source=user-shared-article

My favorite fake trade, however, kills two birds with one stone by resolving the Magic’s backcourt issue. Orlando holds pick Nos. 6 and 11 and would likely be tempted to trade up and take Henderson if the Hornets select Miller at No. 2. Could some combination of the sixth and 11th picks and another asset allow the Magic to move up to No. 3?

I don’t get it. If the team’s “backcourt issue” is 3pt shooting, how is Scoot the answer?

The backcourt issues are lack of a floor general, ball security, and three point shooting. Scoot solves two of three, and his shot is far from broken.

[Knightro]

The backcourt issues are lack of a floor general, ball security, and three point shooting. Scoot solves two of three, and his shot is far from broken.

Bingo.

The lack of 3PT shooting is a huge issue, probably the biggest one ultimately, but it's not the only issue.

As you said, the Magic need more playmaking/fewer turnovers from their lead guard on top of more shooting.

[RookieStar]

Regarding that Nurkic trade, I was glad to know my estimate of Dell averaging only 60 games a season was right in justifying signing Vuc (lol)

But more worrisome is Nurkic probably averages more missed games no?

[Skybox]

How about…
ORL sends #6 and Okeke
ATL sends AJ Griffin and #15 (ORL takes Lively)

ORL sends Fultz and #11 to TOR
TOR sends OG to POR
POR sends Simons and #23 to ORL (ORL takes Whitehead or Podzmieski)

ORL sends Cole Anthony
MIN sends Kyle Anderson

Simons/Suggs
Griffin/Whitehead
Franz/Kyle Anderson/Houstan
Paolo/Isaac/M. Wagner
WCJ/Lively/Goga

[Skybox]

Good news, I’ve solved all of our problems (again):

Simple…

Draft Hendricks at #6, Lively at #11
Waive Harris, Bol, Goga to clear cap space
Sign FVV
Trade Fultz & ORL 24 frp (top 3), DEN 25 frp to SAS FOR Vassell & McBuckets (they need a PG and I’m told Fultz is good)

FVV/Cole
Vassell/Suggs/Houstan
Franz/Hendricks/McDermott
Paolo/Isaac/ M. Wagner
WCJ/Lively

Much improved defense (insane if Isaac healthy), shooting from deep, PnR play…lots of positional versatility & looks

[RichCollab]

Good news, I’ve solved all of our problems (again):

Simple…

Draft Hendricks at #6, Lively at #11
Waive Harris, Bol, Goga to clear cap space
Sign FVV
Trade Fultz & ORL 24 frp (top 3), DEN 25 frp to SAS FOR Vassell & McBuckets (they need a PG and I’m told Fultz is good)

FVV/Cole
Vassell/Suggs/Houstan
Franz/Hendricks/McDermott
Paolo/Isaac/ M. Wagner
WCJ/Lively

Much improved defense (insane if Isaac healthy), shooting from deep, PnR play…lots of positional versatility & looks

Hendricks isn’t a 3. He is pretty much a 4 only.

[Skybox]

Good news, I’ve solved all of our problems (again):

Simple…

Draft Hendricks at #6, Lively at #11
Waive Harris, Bol, Goga to clear cap space
Sign FVV
Trade Fultz & ORL 24 frp (top 3), DEN 25 frp to SAS FOR Vassell & McBuckets (they need a PG and I’m told Fultz is good)

FVV/Cole
Vassell/Suggs/Houstan
Franz/Hendricks/McDermott
Paolo/Isaac/ M. Wagner
WCJ/Lively

Much improved defense (insane if Isaac healthy), shooting from deep, PnR play…lots of positional versatility & looks

Hendricks isn’t a 3. He is pretty much a 4 only.

All of the forwards are pretty versatile. I know Hendricks is a help rim- protector but he looks about 150 lbs. As big as Isaac is, his biggest defensive impact is on the perimeter, so PF/SF in name only (really for all of them). I don’t disagree with you though, especially long term, the team above is almost TOO deep, things will shake out as the rooks get their feet under them.

[thelead]

6 for AJ Griffen? Are you a Hawks fan?

[Skybox]

6 for AJ Griffen? Are you a Hawks fan?

AJ Griffin AND Lively…I’m a high volume 3pt shooting, physical defending, rim protecting, addressing our glaring weaknesses fan.

Everyone at 6 is a bit of a crapshoot, imo.

I guess I look like a Duke fan too…Paolo & Griffin had great chemistry last season, gravity down low and kicking out for open makes.

[thelead]

6 for AJ Griffen? Are you a Hawks fan?

AJ Griffin AND Lively…I’m a high volume 3pt shooting, physical defending, rim protecting, addressing our glaring weaknesses fan.

Everyone at 6 is a bit of a crapshoot, imo.

I guess I look like a Duke fan too…Paolo & Griffin had great chemistry last season, gravity down low and kicking out for open makes.

I like AJ but there is no way that a kid that didn’t even play in the playoffs is worth the 6th pick even if you’re throwing the 15th pick in too.

[3ddman23]

Strus, B. brown, reeves or Trent Jr. Sign one of these guys and plug them right into the sg spot( ideally strus or b. Brown). With Suggs as a marcus smart clone of the bench.