Trade Thread, 2023-24 – (Offseason)

[Curmudgeon]

They need players adept at creating shots for teammates, not just for themselves.

Names?

Domantas Sabonis, Draymond Green, Scottie Barnes, James Harden among the wings. Plenty of guards, but guards are not the Celtics' problem. Smart was by far the Celtics' leader in assists per 36 minutes (19th overall in the NBA). The two best passing guards (Paul and Conley) are on the wrong side of 35.

Jokic, Doncic, LeBron, Holiday and Adebayo are probably not available.

[165bows]

They need players adept at creating shots for teammates, not just for themselves.

Names?

Domantas Sabonis, Draymond Green, Scottie Barnes, James Harden among the wings. Plenty of guards, but guards are not the Celtics' problem. Smart was by far the Celtics' leader in assists per 36 minutes (19th overall in the NBA). The two best passing guards (Paul and Conley) are on the wrong side of 35.

Jokic, Doncic, LeBron, Holiday and Adebayo are probably not available.

Sengun maybe.

[hugepatsfan]

Smart or White (one or the other)
Hauser
24/26/28/30 1st rounders (unprotected, after top 1 protected SA swap rights in '28)
unprotected swap rights in 24/26/28
Pritchard
Gallo or Muscala/Kornet (salary filler)

is that a compelling offer to TOR for Siakam? He seems a clunky fit with Barnes and maybe they want to rebuild? I'd say this is comparable to the Gobert trade in terms of volume based pick package.

Not sure we can afford to keep Tatum/Brown/Siakam and not sure how their games mesh, but on paper it's certainly a great SG/SF/PF group.

[Cricket23]

Smart or White (one or the other)
Hauser
24/26/28/30 1st rounders (unprotected, after top 1 protected SA swap rights in '28)
unprotected swap rights in 24/26/28
Pritchard
Gallo or Muscala/Kornet (salary filler)

is that a compelling offer to TOR for Siakam? He seems a clunky fit with Barnes and maybe they want to rebuild? I'd say this is comparable to the Gobert trade in terms of volume based pick package.

Not sure we can afford to keep Tatum/Brown/Siakam and not sure how their games mesh, but on paper it's certainly a great SG/SF/PF group.

I think Smart has to stay if they're not bringing in a true PG. Toronto wanted Brogdon but he chose Boston.

[playa-hater]

Maybe find a way to get Embiid and team with Tatum?

A few people keep suggesting something like this. Both players are great individuals.. But would fit bad together IMO. Neither wants to be Robin next to Batman.

[Larry_Russell]

Just playing around....


Brown, grant williams sign and traded to portland
Simons, #3, j. Grant out

Smart to dallas
#10 and bullock out

Brogdon and horford and #10 to toronto
Siakam out

#3 to detroit for #5 and stewart

Simons/pritch
Tatum/white
Grant/bullock
Siakam/gallo
Timelord/stewart

[playa-hater]

Boston is in a fairly unique position in that they have a guy going into his prime that they are basically forced to pay the supermax, even though he's not quite worth it. Perhaps they could use it as an opportunity. This offseason, maybe they could trade one of the guards along with however many picks they have that are available and needed, and get themselves a starting forward. Teams don't want to trade all of their picks like that, but my thinking is that they either construct a dominant team, or they replenish the picks in a year or 2 by trading Brown, hopefully for a Donovan Mitchell type package. The guard I would trade is Brogdon who has good value after having an award winning and healthy year. I see him being healthy this past year as fools good, and I know everyone gets an erection over the way he presents himself, but I'm not a big fan. Surprisingly, he's not an especially smart player or decision maker. He's a solid bucket getter, but those points can be replaced by whoever comes back in trade. The obvious dream target is Bridges.

Fully agree with moving a guard for a forward. Add picks as needed depending on the guy. I’ve posted on the trade board for instance and Derrick White for Finney-Smith straight up is considered fair. White plus picks for OG got lukewarm acknowledgment as something they could possibly work. Just for examples.

I’d really rather trade White or Smart than Brogdon though. It’s just about diversification of skill set. I think it’s really important that when one or both of Tatum or Brown are sitting you still have someone who can be a primary scoring option type. Smart and White are much more duplicative than Brogdon. He checks boxes on the team that no one else does.

agree with both above.

[playa-hater]

OK these trades are all over the place, some very far out. But it is interesting and entertaining for sure.

[165bows]

Someone floated the idea of a Zion trade. It's the ultimate "high-risk, high-reward" move (not the fake kinds that people usually use that phrase for) but if it panned out I like it a lot better than most ideas pitched up until now.

Having no scoring out of the true bigs is a real Achilles heal of this team and one they were looking to address with Gallo too bad he blew up early.

[hugepatsfan]

Someone floated the idea of a Zion trade. It's the ultimate "high-risk, high-reward" move (not the fake kinds that people usually use that phrase for) but if it panned out I like it a lot better than most ideas pitched up until now.

Having no scoring out of the true bigs is a real Achilles heal of this team and one they were looking to address with Gallo too bad he blew up early.

Gallo was a nice regular season signing. Doubt he'd have been able to stick in a playoff rotation even if he was healthy. Just too poor a defender.

[fallguy]

Someone floated the idea of a Zion trade. It's the ultimate "high-risk, high-reward" move (not the fake kinds that people usually use that phrase for) but if it panned out I like it a lot better than most ideas pitched up until now.

Having no scoring out of the true bigs is a real Achilles heal of this team and one they were looking to address with Gallo too bad he blew up early.

Gallo was a nice regular season signing. Doubt he'd have been able to stick in a playoff rotation even if he was healthy. Just too poor a defender.

Joe doesn't care if you can defend.

He cares about three point shots.

Gallo would play.

[hugepatsfan]

Someone floated the idea of a Zion trade. It's the ultimate "high-risk, high-reward" move (not the fake kinds that people usually use that phrase for) but if it panned out I like it a lot better than most ideas pitched up until now.

Having no scoring out of the true bigs is a real Achilles heal of this team and one they were looking to address with Gallo too bad he blew up early.

Gallo was a nice regular season signing. Doubt he'd have been able to stick in a playoff rotation even if he was healthy. Just too poor a defender.

Joe doesn't care if you can defend.

He cares about three point shots.

Gallo would play.

haha fair point, not exactly confidence inspiring though haha

[165bows]

Someone floated the idea of a Zion trade. It's the ultimate "high-risk, high-reward" move (not the fake kinds that people usually use that phrase for) but if it panned out I like it a lot better than most ideas pitched up until now.

Having no scoring out of the true bigs is a real Achilles heal of this team and one they were looking to address with Gallo too bad he blew up early.

Gallo was a nice regular season signing. Doubt he'd have been able to stick in a playoff rotation even if he was healthy. Just too poor a defender.

Obviously different levels of player I am talking about there - point being it's a big need that they attempted to address.

[Curmudgeon]

Stevens will be constrained financially (that 2nd apron) and by what other teams and free agents are willing to do. He should trade Brown, but he probably won't. I said the same thing last year.

One guy we haven't discussed is Rudy Gobert. The twin towers didn't work out too well in MN so maybe Gobert would be available. He would solve some problems, starting with the Embiid problem. And he wouldn't take shots away from other players.

I'd also like to take a flyer on some of the young talent on teams like Houston, Orlando, OKC and Detroit, offering Brogdon in return.

[Captain_Caveman]

Jaylen
White
2024 pick
2025 swap
2026 pick
2027 swap
2028 pick (lesser of Celtics or Spurs unless #1)
2029 swap
2030 pick

for

Curry

[Hal14]

Names?

Domantas Sabonis, Draymond Green, Scottie Barnes, James Harden among the wings. Plenty of guards, but guards are not the Celtics' problem. Smart was by far the Celtics' leader in assists per 36 minutes (19th overall in the NBA). The two best passing guards (Paul and Conley) are on the wrong side of 35.

Jokic, Doncic, LeBron, Holiday and Adebayo are probably not available.

Sengun maybe.

No thanks. Sengun can't defend, can't shoot. Holds onto the ball to much on offense, too much dribbling.

[BK_2020]

Jaylen
White
2024 pick
2025 swap
2026 pick
2027 swap
2028 pick (lesser of Celtics or Spurs unless #1)
2029 swap
2030 pick

for

Curry

This is a good trade. The Dubs need to blow it up, Jaylen gets to go back to the Bay Area to mingle with fellow intellectuals. We get a guy who can score things slow down and teams start throwing double teams at Tatum.

[Curmudgeon]

Why not offer Brown and some goodies for LeBron? Same idea.

[Captain_Caveman]

Why not offer Brown and some goodies for LeBron? Same idea.

Curry is younger, better, and a better fit. Plus, LeBron is 100% going to sign with whoever drafts Bronny.

[CelticsPride18]

Why not offer Brown and some goodies for LeBron? Same idea.

Curry is younger, better, and a better fit. Plus, LeBron is 100% going to sign with whoever drafts Bronny.

Curry is unavailable as well.