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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#621 » by MoneyBall » Mon May 22, 2023 11:18 pm

Clutch0z24 wrote:Bilal seems to be the favorite among the board so far....Which baffles me a bit because i watched alot of tape on him and his ceiling is literally OG ....We would be drafting him to hope he becomes maybe OG....When we have OG on the team already lol...

We do not need a player that we hope becomes OG cause we have this type of player already and we are struggling to make the playoffs year after year....We need guard depth and an elite guard....Its so obvious...

We had FVV/GTJR playing basically all the mins at both guard spots with no real backups who are NBA ready players.....We have 0 guards on the team with any upside if GTJR & FVV are out the door this offseason.

I think it would be a really big miskate if we do not go after one of these guards with potential....We legit need a guard with potential on this team...George or Bufkin ...One of them should be the pick at 13 for us.

I'm not sold on Bilal either. He looks clumsy and uncoordinated. His first step doesn't look particularly explosive. He's paper thin which means when he adds weight it'll slow him down some. He's super young and with impeccable work ethic he can become a solid player, but he just looks like a huge project with a mid level ceiling.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#622 » by C_Money » Mon May 22, 2023 11:19 pm

PRESTIGE wrote:

The more I watch this kid the more I’m intrigued. He definitely has that perimeter game the Raptors have been missing for the past few years. I think he could be a perennial All-Star.


I have a feeling he’ll be taken before 13.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#623 » by MoneyBall » Mon May 22, 2023 11:20 pm

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MoneyBall wrote:I know he's projected to go a spot or two ahead of 13 but I like Jordan Hawkins. He moves off the ball incredibly well. Reminds me of Rip Hamilton. Comes from a winning program at UCONN. Probably doesn't have Star potential but I'd say he's projected to be a solid NBA starter in his prime.


He likely will be there at 13. Hawkins will be a good one as long as he gets into the right system. The shooting is elite and he can run around like Korver. Sneaky athletic as well.

I have no idea if he'll drop to 13 (I'd be surprised if he did) but I completely agree with you that he has to be in the right system. If we end up with Atkins as HC I think they're a match made in heaven.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#624 » by tdotrep2 » Mon May 22, 2023 11:25 pm

i feel like george can be this years maxey
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#625 » by Reeko » Mon May 22, 2023 11:36 pm

This is the No Ceilings, Draft Deeper Mock draft: https://player.fm/series/no-ceilings-nba-draft/draft-deeper-2023-nba-mockposite-draft-70

Interesting notes:

- One of them drafted Ausar Thompson at 4, ahead of Amen.

- One of them drafted Brice Sensebaugh at 9, which blows my mind because I see him mocked late first round for the most part.

- Had us taking Jett Howard at 13. They say we really need his shooting and creation in the half court.

- Had Coulibaly going 14th.

- Gradey Dick was not selected in the lottery.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#626 » by HumbleRen » Mon May 22, 2023 11:40 pm

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PRESTIGE wrote:

The more I watch this kid the more I’m intrigued. He definitely has that perimeter game the Raptors have been missing for the past few years. I think he could be a perennial All-Star.


I have a feeling he’ll be taken before 13.


Paolo is really close with him. He might push for them to take Keyonte.
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Post#627 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Mon May 22, 2023 11:45 pm

Reeko wrote:This is the No Ceilings, Draft Deeper Mock draft: https://player.fm/series/no-ceilings-nba-draft/draft-deeper-2023-nba-mockposite-draft-70

Interesting notes:

- One of them drafted Ausar Thompson at 4, ahead of Amen.

- One of them drafted Brice Sensebaugh at 9, which blows my mind because I see him mocked late first round for the most part.

- Had us taking Jett Howard at 13. They say we really need his shooting and creation in the half court.

- Had Coulibaly going 14th.

- Gradey Dick was not selected in the lottery.


Overall Ausar put up better numbers than Amen did. The one area Amen really had him was 2ptfg%, the key for Amen will be getting his 3pt% higher as he has much higher offensive upside if he manages to do it, while Ausar seems to be more well rounded with better defensive upside and less offensive upside. If you ultimately think they will both stink at shooting in the NBA then Ausar likely ends up with the better career. If they can both take huge leaps in their shooting then Amen likely has the better career. Everything with them comes down to shooting but Amen's finishing is elite and stronger than Ausar's.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#628 » by Reeko » Mon May 22, 2023 11:47 pm

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Reeko wrote:This is the No Ceilings, Draft Deeper Mock draft: https://player.fm/series/no-ceilings-nba-draft/draft-deeper-2023-nba-mockposite-draft-70

Interesting notes:

- One of them drafted Ausar Thompson at 4, ahead of Amen.

- One of them drafted Brice Sensebaugh at 9, which blows my mind because I see him mocked late first round for the most part.

- Had us taking Jett Howard at 13. They say we really need his shooting and creation in the half court.

- Had Coulibaly going 14th.

- Gradey Dick was not selected in the lottery.


Overall Ausar put up better numbers than Amen did. The one area Amen really had him was 2ptfg%, the key for Amen will be getting his 3pt% higher as he has much higher offensive upside if he manages to do it, while Ausar seems to be more well rounded with better defensive upside and less offensive upside. If you ultimately think they will both stink at shooting in the NBA then Ausar likely ends up with the better career. If they can both take huge leaps in their shooting then Amen likely has the better career. Everything with them comes down to shooting but Amen's finishing is elite and stronger than Ausar's.

Pretty much what they said. Another thing that was added is that Amen is a much better passer on the move than Ausar. But also that Amen has a tendency to ball watch when he doesn't have it.
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Post#629 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Mon May 22, 2023 11:51 pm

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Reeko wrote:This is the No Ceilings, Draft Deeper Mock draft: https://player.fm/series/no-ceilings-nba-draft/draft-deeper-2023-nba-mockposite-draft-70

Interesting notes:

- One of them drafted Ausar Thompson at 4, ahead of Amen.

- One of them drafted Brice Sensebaugh at 9, which blows my mind because I see him mocked late first round for the most part.

- Had us taking Jett Howard at 13. They say we really need his shooting and creation in the half court.

- Had Coulibaly going 14th.

- Gradey Dick was not selected in the lottery.


Overall Ausar put up better numbers than Amen did. The one area Amen really had him was 2ptfg%, the key for Amen will be getting his 3pt% higher as he has much higher offensive upside if he manages to do it, while Ausar seems to be more well rounded with better defensive upside and less offensive upside. If you ultimately think they will both stink at shooting in the NBA then Ausar likely ends up with the better career. If they can both take huge leaps in their shooting then Amen likely has the better career. Everything with them comes down to shooting but Amen's finishing is elite and stronger than Ausar's.

Pretty much what they said. Another thing that was added is that Amen is a much better passer on the move than Ausar. But also that Amen has a tendency to ball watch when he doesn't have it.


Yeah I didn't get a chance to listen but that's how I feel. Amen gravitates towards being more of an on-ball guy and Ausar an off-ball guy. The other issue is that Ausar's shooting is more advanced at this point so if someone is considering both of them and views the shooting as problematic they might see enough from Ausar to value him over Amen.

It's a tricky evaluation because they do insane things on the court and can play defense and pass and rebound and do too much well to completely fail. If these kids can just develop average shots they will make a lot of people look really dumb.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#630 » by C_Money » Mon May 22, 2023 11:51 pm

Surprised nobody’s talking about Rayan Rupert. He’s the type of player Masai would get a boner over.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#631 » by Reeko » Tue May 23, 2023 12:01 am

C_Money wrote:Surprised nobody’s talking about Rayan Rupert. He’s the type of player Masai would get a boner over.

I thought so too. I think Coulibaly has taken away of some of his shine.
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Post#632 » by TNRaps4life » Tue May 23, 2023 12:15 am

Reeko wrote:So apparently Cason Wallace had a back injury that is fairly rare among young players. Might cause him to fall.



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Post#633 » by BoyzNTheHood » Tue May 23, 2023 12:15 am

C_Money wrote:Surprised nobody’s talking about Rayan Rupert. He’s the type of player Masai would get a boner over.

We did. He’s not impressive imo. The measurables are good but his game isn’t there yet. I don’t see more than a 3+D guy at best long term
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#634 » by Kevin Willis » Tue May 23, 2023 12:18 am

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Clutch0z24 wrote:Bilal seems to be the favorite among the board so far....Which baffles me a bit because i watched alot of tape on him and his ceiling is literally OG ....We would be drafting him to hope he becomes maybe OG....When we have OG on the team already lol...

We do not need a player that we hope becomes OG cause we have this type of player already and we are struggling to make the playoffs year after year....We need guard depth and an elite guard....Its so obvious...

We had FVV/GTJR playing basically all the mins at both guard spots with no real backups who are NBA ready players.....We have 0 guards on the team with any upside if GTJR & FVV are out the door this offseason.

I think it would be a really big miskate if we do not go after one of these guards with potential....We legit need a guard with potential on this team...George or Bufkin ...One of them should be the pick at 13 for us.

I'm not sold on Bilal either. He looks clumsy and uncoordinated. His first step doesn't look particularly explosive. He's paper thin which means when he adds weight it'll slow him down some. He's super young and with impeccable work ethic he can become a solid player, but he just looks like a huge project with a mid level ceiling.


- Bilal is around 6'7" - 200lbs. That is the same range as the following- Dick, Thompson twins, Max Lewis, Black, Rupert, GG
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Coulibaly relies on hesitations to get to his spots and will pull out combo moves. With his improved skill and agile physical profile, he’s become a more difficult player to guard. He keeps his dribble alive when pressured by opposing players or when offensive sets are blown up. The handle is still loose, leading to turnovers when slashing through traffic.

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It’s his first year as a pro, so we had to go slowly,” explains Collet. “Everything looks easy when you watch him play. He is graceful. Bilal has been blessed with superior athletic abilities. He learns fast, he is smart, he feels the game, you tell him something once and he gets it. Bilal has a ways to go but he is gifted.


https://www.slamonline.com/the-magazine/bilal-coulibaly/

https://www.sportsbusinessclassroom.com/scouting-boulogne-levallois-wing-bilal-coulibaly/

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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#635 » by Kevin Willis » Tue May 23, 2023 12:20 am

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C_Money wrote:Surprised nobody’s talking about Rayan Rupert. He’s the type of player Masai would get a boner over.

I thought so too. I think Coulibaly has taken away of some of his shine.


Not as athletic as thought with combine results. His offense is weaker.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#636 » by MoneyBall » Tue May 23, 2023 12:26 am

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Clutch0z24 wrote:Bilal seems to be the favorite among the board so far....Which baffles me a bit because i watched alot of tape on him and his ceiling is literally OG ....We would be drafting him to hope he becomes maybe OG....When we have OG on the team already lol...

We do not need a player that we hope becomes OG cause we have this type of player already and we are struggling to make the playoffs year after year....We need guard depth and an elite guard....Its so obvious...

We had FVV/GTJR playing basically all the mins at both guard spots with no real backups who are NBA ready players.....We have 0 guards on the team with any upside if GTJR & FVV are out the door this offseason.

I think it would be a really big miskate if we do not go after one of these guards with potential....We legit need a guard with potential on this team...George or Bufkin ...One of them should be the pick at 13 for us.

I'm not sold on Bilal either. He looks clumsy and uncoordinated. His first step doesn't look particularly explosive. He's paper thin which means when he adds weight it'll slow him down some. He's super young and with impeccable work ethic he can become a solid player, but he just looks like a huge project with a mid level ceiling.


- Bilal is around 6'7" - 200lbs. That is the same range as the following- Dick, Thompson twins, Max Lewis, Black, Rupert, GG
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Coulibaly relies on hesitations to get to his spots and will pull out combo moves. With his improved skill and agile physical profile, he’s become a more difficult player to guard. He keeps his dribble alive when pressured by opposing players or when offensive sets are blown up. The handle is still loose, leading to turnovers when slashing through traffic.

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It’s his first year as a pro, so we had to go slowly,” explains Collet. “Everything looks easy when you watch him play. He is graceful. Bilal has been blessed with superior athletic abilities. He learns fast, he is smart, he feels the game, you tell him something once and he gets it. Bilal has a ways to go but he is gifted.


https://www.slamonline.com/the-magazine/bilal-coulibaly/

https://www.sportsbusinessclassroom.com/scouting-boulogne-levallois-wing-bilal-coulibaly/

;ab_channel=LockedOnFantasyBasketball

I've read scouting reports and seen many clips of him already. I'm not particularly impressed by anything he does on the court. He measures great though, and he's super young. I don't think his ceiling is nearly as high as many others think here. Just my opinion.
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Post#637 » by Psubs » Tue May 23, 2023 12:27 am

Reeko wrote:
C_Money wrote:Surprised nobody’s talking about Rayan Rupert. He’s the type of player Masai would get a boner over.

I thought so too. I think Coulibaly has taken away of some of his shine.


Exactly, they swapped places in mocks from mid and late 1st . Coulibaly measures longer and show more potential on offense, while Rupert is currently the better defender.
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Post#638 » by Psubs » Tue May 23, 2023 12:31 am

TNRaps4life wrote:
Reeko wrote:So apparently Cason Wallace had a back injury that is fairly rare among young players. Might cause him to fall.



Back spasm


or gasm!!! All that extra shooting practice, took it's toll. Please let him drop to #13! :pray:
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#639 » by Clutch0z24 » Tue May 23, 2023 2:03 am

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Clutch0z24 wrote:Bilal seems to be the favorite among the board so far....Which baffles me a bit because i watched alot of tape on him and his ceiling is literally OG ....We would be drafting him to hope he becomes maybe OG....When we have OG on the team already lol...

We do not need a player that we hope becomes OG cause we have this type of player already and we are struggling to make the playoffs year after year....We need guard depth and an elite guard....Its so obvious...

We had FVV/GTJR playing basically all the mins at both guard spots with no real backups who are NBA ready players.....We have 0 guards on the team with any upside if GTJR & FVV are out the door this offseason.

I think it would be a really big miskate if we do not go after one of these guards with potential....We legit need a guard with potential on this team...George or Bufkin ...One of them should be the pick at 13 for us.

I'm not sold on Bilal either. He looks clumsy and uncoordinated. His first step doesn't look particularly explosive. He's paper thin which means when he adds weight it'll slow him down some. He's super young and with impeccable work ethic he can become a solid player, but he just looks like a huge project with a mid level ceiling.


- Bilal is around 6'7" - 200lbs. That is the same range as the following- Dick, Thompson twins, Max Lewis, Black, Rupert, GG
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Coulibaly relies on hesitations to get to his spots and will pull out combo moves. With his improved skill and agile physical profile, he’s become a more difficult player to guard. He keeps his dribble alive when pressured by opposing players or when offensive sets are blown up. The handle is still loose, leading to turnovers when slashing through traffic.

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It’s his first year as a pro, so we had to go slowly,” explains Collet. “Everything looks easy when you watch him play. He is graceful. Bilal has been blessed with superior athletic abilities. He learns fast, he is smart, he feels the game, you tell him something once and he gets it. Bilal has a ways to go but he is gifted.


https://www.slamonline.com/the-magazine/bilal-coulibaly/

https://www.sportsbusinessclassroom.com/scouting-boulogne-levallois-wing-bilal-coulibaly/

;ab_channel=LockedOnFantasyBasketball


Bilal is interesting but my reason i do not want him .....We have OG/Barnes on the team....OG still young, Barnes our future....Adding Bilal does nothing for the team overall cause he is ways away from being able to contribute for us and also will not be good enough to replace either Barnes/OG in our starting lineup....So that hinders his development with no real minutes being available for him.

We would basically be drafting Bilal to try and reach OG level which im not convinced he will even be on an OG level of player.

I think we need a guard too bad on our team and there are some great prospect guards at the 13th spot for us to pass up on one....

If we traded OG/Siakam this offseason ....Siakam to the Blazers for Simons + 3 and trade OG for more young assets + draft picks or w/e you can get for OG than Drafting Bilal opens up at 13 ....And id be fine reaching for him at that point but if we stand pat at 13 makes little to no sense to draft him.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#640 » by PhilBlackson » Tue May 23, 2023 2:12 am

Clutch0z24 wrote:
Kevin Willis wrote:
MoneyBall wrote:I'm not sold on Bilal either. He looks clumsy and uncoordinated. His first step doesn't look particularly explosive. He's paper thin which means when he adds weight it'll slow him down some. He's super young and with impeccable work ethic he can become a solid player, but he just looks like a huge project with a mid level ceiling.


- Bilal is around 6'7" - 200lbs. That is the same range as the following- Dick, Thompson twins, Max Lewis, Black, Rupert, GG
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Coulibaly relies on hesitations to get to his spots and will pull out combo moves. With his improved skill and agile physical profile, he’s become a more difficult player to guard. He keeps his dribble alive when pressured by opposing players or when offensive sets are blown up. The handle is still loose, leading to turnovers when slashing through traffic.

-
It’s his first year as a pro, so we had to go slowly,” explains Collet. “Everything looks easy when you watch him play. He is graceful. Bilal has been blessed with superior athletic abilities. He learns fast, he is smart, he feels the game, you tell him something once and he gets it. Bilal has a ways to go but he is gifted.


https://www.slamonline.com/the-magazine/bilal-coulibaly/

https://www.sportsbusinessclassroom.com/scouting-boulogne-levallois-wing-bilal-coulibaly/

;ab_channel=LockedOnFantasyBasketball


Bilal is interesting but my reason i do not want him .....We have OG/Barnes on the team....OG still young, Barnes our future....Adding Bilal does nothing for the team overall cause he is ways away from being able to contribute for us and also will not be good enough to replace either Barnes/OG in our starting lineup....

We would basically be drafting Bilal to try and reach OG level which im not convinced he will even be on an OG level of player.

I think we need a guard too bad on our team and there are some great prospect guards at the 13th spot for us to pass up on one....

If we traded OG/Siakam this offseason ....Siakam to the Blazers for Simons + 3 and trade OG for more young assets + draft picks or w/e you can get for OG than Drafting Bilal opens up at 13 ....And id be fine reaching for him at that point but if we stand pat at 13 makes little to no sense to draft him.


Won't try to sell you on wanting to pick Bilal but I just can't get with continued assertion that you're making that "OG is Bilal's ceiling" when that's just flatly wrong imo.

Bilal is ALREADY a better ballhandler than OG. OG can not rip & run (rebound then take the ball coast to coast) and he can not drive to the basket off the dribble, he is flat out too uncoordinated and clumsy. He at times looks like a child trying to control the ball by watching himself dribble lol. If he gets to the paint it's usually a result of backing down his man, not blowing by them etc. Bilal is already showing he can do those things to some degree...

But the level of fluidity just in his body's coordination, is just clearly much better than OG and if OG had the ability to rip & run or drive to the basket, he'd be a completely different level of player --- OG with better handles and fluidity would be one of the best SFs in the league tbh and that to me is what Bilal's potential is. You don't like him as a prospect, cool, I'm sure there's prospects you like that I don't either but I just flat out don't agree that OG is his ceiling.
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