show me one realistic Dame trade

[BNM]

How far off is this...

Portland trades: Lillard & Little
Boston trades Brown & Bogdon

Portland trades: Simons
Orlando trades: Harris, #11

PG Bogdon / Scoot / Johnson / #43 Pick
SG Thybulle / Sharpe
SF Brown / #11 Pick
PF Grant / Watford / Walker
_C Nurkic / #23 Pick / Eubanks

If the Blazers end up with Miller instead of Scoot, they use the #11 pick on a PF.

That team is worse than the current team, so best case, if 100% healthy, a marginal play-in team. In that case, I would 100% go with the young guys and start Scoot over Brogdon and Sharpe over Thybulle. I'd also let Grant walk and look to move Nurk for more youth.

If we're assuming Dame is traded, we are worse. The greatest player in Portland history would be gone. Hence the term "rebuild".

Yeah that was my point. If you're going to rebuild, why resign Grant and play vets like Brogdon and Thybulle over Scoot and Sharpe? No more half measures!!! Pick a direction. Either go all in to win now (if possible) are fully commit to a rebuild around our young prospects.

Seriously, we threw away two seasons to draft Sharpe and Scoot (hopefully), and we're going to hand the keys to Brogdon and Thybulle? Makes no sense to me.

Oh, and either way FIRE CHAUNCEY!!!!

[BlazersBroncos]

If we go full rebuild I would try to retain Eubanks and Thybulle if reasonably priced. You need some vets around and both are low usage, high hustle glue guy types that wont take usage from the youngsters.

Grant on the other hand - hell no.

[Blazers98]

If Boston gets swept or loses to the Heat badly, Boston might have a rethink.
Brown, some 1st rounders, and filler for Dame?
If we could get Williams, even better.
Brown could be part of the timeline since he is 26.

[JasonStern]

Also dont see NYK as a suitor as IMO they should at least see Brunson as the one guy that didnt crap the bed 100% in the 2nd round.

You're not viewing the NBA as a business. Dame sells tickets and merch. Dame in New York gets you those coveted TV slots. Zero chance they pass on a marketable all-NBA player because they have Jalen Brunson.

[m0ng0]

If we go full rebuild I would try to retain Eubanks and Thybulle if reasonably priced. You need some vets around and both are low usage, high hustle glue guy types that wont take usage from the youngsters.

Grant on the other hand - hell no.

I would keep Walker also

[Norm2953]

Also dont see NYK as a suitor as IMO they should at least see Brunson as the one guy that didnt crap the bed 100% in the 2nd round.

You're not viewing the NBA as a business. Dame sells tickets and merch. Dame in New York gets you those coveted TV slots. Zero chance they pass on a marketable all-NBA player because they have Jalen Brunson.

SAS was pounding the table after the Knicks season ended for he was screaming for Dame but Thibs and Dame is a poor match.

[DusterBuster]

Also dont see NYK as a suitor as IMO they should at least see Brunson as the one guy that didnt crap the bed 100% in the 2nd round.

You're not viewing the NBA as a business. Dame sells tickets and merch. Dame in New York gets you those coveted TV slots. Zero chance they pass on a marketable all-NBA player because they have Jalen Brunson.

SAS was pounding the table after the Knicks season ended for he was screaming for Dame but Thibs and Dame is a poor match.

Thibs doesn't put butts in seats and no one is wearing Thibs jerseys. To JS's point, it's a business and Dame is a Top 75 All Time player that people will goto a game just to see him play.

[GEE]

Definitely a solid point to be taken when considering Dame's (overall) value to another team in trade. I was thinking the same with BKN, and how they must be hating it since KD and the others have left, now trying to sell those same season tickets with Bridges and a few good young guys, while also in the NYC. They would definitely benefit from Dame greatly. I could debate how good of a basket ball player Dame is, but what I absolutely can't argue is that Dame's brand and how he markets it, must be top-5 in the NBA. He would definitely stimulate and rake in the money for any potential suitor.

[cedric76]

I don't think a Simons for 11 trade happens if Dame is traded for Simons is actually a
great fit with Scoot for he'd get a ton of open looks, for Scoot is a guy who attacks the
basket at all times.

If Grant and Brown are the forwards with Scoot and Simons in the BC with Nurk at center,
that isn't a bad team. Portland likely just keeps 23 and allows the pick that goes to
Chicago to convey whenever Portland makes the playoffs.

Simons for #11 + Harris is a good trade

You could also do #11 for Simons straight up which would give you a 18 million trade exception

[DaVoiceMaster]

I don't think a Simons for 11 trade happens if Dame is traded for Simons is actually a
great fit with Scoot for he'd get a ton of open looks, for Scoot is a guy who attacks the
basket at all times.

If Grant and Brown are the forwards with Scoot and Simons in the BC with Nurk at center,
that isn't a bad team. Portland likely just keeps 23 and allows the pick that goes to
Chicago to convey whenever Portland makes the playoffs.

Simons for #11 + Harris is a good trade

You could also do #11 for Simons straight up which would give you a 18 million trade exception

Why only $18M if Simons makes $24M?

[cedric76]

I don't think a Simons for 11 trade happens if Dame is traded for Simons is actually a
great fit with Scoot for he'd get a ton of open looks, for Scoot is a guy who attacks the
basket at all times.

If Grant and Brown are the forwards with Scoot and Simons in the BC with Nurk at center,
that isn't a bad team. Portland likely just keeps 23 and allows the pick that goes to
Chicago to convey whenever Portland makes the playoffs.

Simons for #11 + Harris is a good trade

You could also do #11 for Simons straight up which would give you a 18 million trade exception

Why only $18M if Simons makes $24M?

You are right, I was thinking that 11 cost 6 millions, but this trade would happen before 11 sign his contract

So Simons for 11 + 24M exception sounds even better for Portland

[Goldbum]

Simons for #11 + Harris is a good trade

You could also do #11 for Simons straight up which would give you a 18 million trade exception

Why only $18M if Simons makes $24M?

You are right, I was thinking that 11 cost 6 millions, but this trade would happen before 11 sign his contract

So Simons for 11 + 24M exception sounds even better for Portland

I saw a trade on Redditt that I like. Simons goes to ORL, Nurk+Harris+Okeke +Bol goes to PHO. #11 and Ayton go to Portland. I know a lot of people want to stay away from Ayton but Ayton+Cason Wallace for Nurk and Ant sounds pretty good.

[tester551]

Why only $18M if Simons makes $24M?

You are right, I was thinking that 11 cost 6 millions, but this trade would happen before 11 sign his contract

So Simons for 11 + 24M exception sounds even better for Portland

I saw a trade on Redditt that I like. Simons goes to ORL, Nurk+Harris+Okeke +Bol goes to PHO. #11 and Ayton go to Portland. I know a lot of people want to stay away from Ayton but Ayton+Cason Wallace for Nurk and Ant sounds pretty good.

This is one of the few Ayton trades Id be game for.

Although, I'm not sure Orlando goes for it. They need more value.
Also, I'm not sure Phoenix goes for it. It feels very slanted towards Portland.

[cedric76]

Why only $18M if Simons makes $24M?

You are right, I was thinking that 11 cost 6 millions, but this trade would happen before 11 sign his contract

So Simons for 11 + 24M exception sounds even better for Portland

I saw a trade on Redditt that I like. Simons goes to ORL, Nurk+Harris+Okeke +Bol goes to PHO. #11 and Ayton go to Portland. I know a lot of people want to stay away from Ayton but Ayton+Cason Wallace for Nurk and Ant sounds pretty good.

I think it s a bit overpay for Orlando but as a magic fan I d do it.

Very solid trade for Phoenix, they get deeper

[Goldbum]

The consensus on Redditt was Portland wouldn't do it, but I like the deal. PHX needs depth, Ant is perfect for Orlando (my opinion of course) and Ayton + Wallace gets Portland a PG that's a lot like what we though we where getting with GP2 and a center we've been interested in.

[Blazers77]

NYK: Brunson, Barrett, best of 2024 Dallas/Detroit/NY/Washington 1st.
A stopgap, a prospect, and likely a lotto pick. Solid haul.

I would do that

That's a solid deal. I also think the Knicks would be motivated to do it. I don't think the LeBron rumors are true, but if there's any chance they are, then I could see this being even more realistic.

[DeBlazerRiddem]

I'll just chime in, Carson Wallace would be a fantastic pick up for us at 11 if we don't take Scoot at 3. Dog off the bench, potentially in time a Marcus Smart type perimeter defender.


Wish this draft had more legit big man options tho. Lively is alright but not as good as Kessler and Williams last year.

[Patsfan1081]

If Boston gets swept or loses to the Heat badly, Boston might have a rethink.
Brown, some 1st rounders, and filler for Dame?
If we could get Williams, even better.
Brown could be part of the timeline since he is 26.

I understand how much Dame means to Portland, however with his age(33), the amount of games he’s missed the past few years, and with that gigantic extension of near 37% of a teams cap space I cant see Bos adding Williams let a lone picks on top. Any team trading for him is going to need cheap resources to add to their team as Dame and their other star will prob account for near 60-70% of their cap space.

[The Sebastian Express]

The numbers of games missed is exaggerated. If Portland hadn't tanked he would've played over 69 games this year, recovering faster from a calf strain that his younger counterparts did this year.

Last year he did have the abdominal surgery in January, which has fully recovered.

People forget we were in shortened seasons in 2019-2020 and 2020-2021, in which he played nearly every game.

[JKiddy]

I think the hold up on a Lillard trade is the amount of money is owed. It is astronomical. With the new rules being finalized for the Cap Implications and the penalties for having two plus max players with the tax apron that $60+ M a season when he is at the end of his career is going to be painful for whichever franchise he is on.

Am I saying any team would not want him today? No. I am saying 2-3 seasons from now it might be a massive burden which could ruin that franchises chances from winning/avoiding the penalties.

If I am POR I trade him this offseason to avoid that and to rebuild. I just don't know how much you can get back as the contract will not be friendly when he is 35+ years old.