Atlanta Hawks Trade Proposal Thread -- Part IV

[Geaux_Hawks]

Trade away the Hawks' 2nd most valuable player for the 10th pick in a very very very weak draft..... no thanks, but i can see why PHX loves it.

I would trade John Collins and #15 for a 2nd round pick.

Wait, so we're using 15 just to dump Collins?! I'd rather just take on 2 smaller contracts than to do that.

[HMFFL]

Excellent time for Atlanta to shop the #15 pick to move up to #10. Dallas has shown interest in John Collins as we. We could possibly dump some established talent on them to move up to #10.

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[ocellatus921]

Collins & 15th pick to Detroit for Bagley & 31st.

[dms269]

Collins & 15th pick to Detroit for Bagley & 31st.

If Arlanta is using 15 to dump Collins (doubt they would), it wouldn't be to take back a negative contract in Bagley as well.

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[CP War Hawks]

Collins & 15th pick to Detroit for Bagley & 31st.

Collins for Bagley and future 1st is the best I'd do.

[atlantabbq99]

Collins & 15th pick to Detroit for Bagley & 31st.

I would rather you keep Bagley and ATL gets all the cap space.

[Jamaaliver]

This one at least makes me think...

[Jamaaliver]

This one seems too good to be true for us!

[dms269]

This one seems too good to be true for us!

Are you being sarcastic?

[jayu70]

This one at least makes me think...

The only thing I'm thinking is as soon as Porzy signs that extension he'll get injured and start missing games. Pass. (It'll also hard cap us).
I'll take Delon Wright and Gafford for CC and Sac 1st though.

[jayu70]

This one seems too good to be true for us!

If we are looking to cut future salary then that is all this is. It doesn't make us a better team on the court.

[Jamaaliver]

This one seems too good to be true for us!

Are you being sarcastic?

If we are looking to cut future salary then that is all this is. It doesn't make us a better team on the court.

I was being serious.


It clears out the logjam at Center, removes future salary from the books and gives us four (4) 1st round draft picks across two drafts to aggressively pursue a top player. The three players from Dallas are simply trade fodder, though Bullock is a solid wing defender and Tim Hardaway is a useful bench scorer in the interim.

[jayu70]

This one seems too good to be true for us!

Are you being sarcastic?

If we are looking to cut future salary then that is all this is. It doesn't make us a better team on the court.

I was being serious.


It clears out the logjam at Center, removes future salary from the books and gives us four (4) 1st round draft picks across two drafts to aggressively pursue a top player. The three players from Dallas are simply trade fodder, though Bullock is a solid wing defender and Tim Hardaway is a useful bench scorer in the interim.

1. Is it really a 'logjam' when it then leaves us with only 1 starting center?
2. We are already over the tax (this is getting us closer to the 2nd apron), and we are taking in more money than we are sending out.... this trade doesn't save us any money under the tax to get a viable backup.
3. It'll be 3 draft picks #10, #15, and one of the 2024 picks....can't trade both the 2024 picks since we owe SAS the 2025 pick.
4. Which top player would you like the Hawks to add?

[dms269]

This one seems too good to be true for us!

Are you being sarcastic?

If we are looking to cut future salary then that is all this is. It doesn't make us a better team on the court.

I was being serious.


It clears out the logjam at Center, removes future salary from the books and gives us four (4) 1st round draft picks across two drafts to aggressively pursue a top player. The three players from Dallas are simply trade fodder, though Bullock is a solid wing defender and Tim Hardaway is a useful bench scorer in the interim.

It seems extremely light for us giving up hunter and feels more like a salary dump of both of them. The trade leaves us without a starting SF and creates a logjam at SG now. We would actually only have 3 picks since we can't trade both 24s. I am just not sure what top SFs is available for 3 picks.

[King Ken]

This one seems too good to be true for us!

Are you being sarcastic?

If we are looking to cut future salary then that is all this is. It doesn't make us a better team on the court.

I was being serious.


It clears out the logjam at Center, removes future salary from the books and gives us four (4) 1st round draft picks across two drafts to aggressively pursue a top player. The three players from Dallas are simply trade fodder, though Bullock is a solid wing defender and Tim Hardaway is a useful bench scorer in the interim.

[Jamaaliver]

It seems extremely light for us giving up hunter and feels more like a salary dump of both of them. The trade leaves us without a starting SF and creates a logjam at SG now. We would actually only have 3 picks since we can't trade both 24s. I am just not sure what top SFs is available for 3 picks.

1. It is absolutely a salary dump. Our salary cap situation is fairly precarious moving forward.

Spoiler:

Read on Twitter

2. We'd have ample players to man that SF spot - Bogdan at 6'8", Saddiq at 6'7", Bullock at 6'6", AJ Griffin at a chiseled 6'6" among the obvious options.

3. This allows us to seriously take a run at extending DeJounte, Okongwu or Saddiq.

[dms269]

It seems extremely light for us giving up hunter and feels more like a salary dump of both of them. The trade leaves us without a starting SF and creates a logjam at SG now. We would actually only have 3 picks since we can't trade both 24s. I am just not sure what top SFs is available for 3 picks.

1. It is absolutely a salary dump. Our salary cap situation is fairly precarious moving forward.

Spoiler:

Read on Twitter

2. We'd have ample players to man that SF spot - Bogdan at 6'8", Saddiq at 6'7", Bullock at 6'6", AJ Griffin at a chiseled 6'6" among the obvious options.

3. This allows us to seriously take a run at extending DeJounte, Okongwu or Saddiq.

1. I am aware of the salary situation, just adamantly disagree about how we should go about lowering our salary.
2. Which one of those players do you feel are able to start? Because each one that you mentioned has a fairly major flaw, which is why they have been backups.
3. Saddiq is wanting Hunter type money, so are you okay with giving him that when he is a net-negative defender?

The Murray-Trae experiment isn't working. We need to cut our losses while he still has enough value to get us back a better piece.

[jayu70]

It seems extremely light for us giving up hunter and feels more like a salary dump of both of them. The trade leaves us without a starting SF and creates a logjam at SG now. We would actually only have 3 picks since we can't trade both 24s. I am just not sure what top SFs is available for 3 picks.

1. It is absolutely a salary dump. Our salary cap situation is fairly precarious moving forward.

Spoiler:

Read on Twitter

2. We'd have ample players to man that SF spot - Bogdan at 6'8", Saddiq at 6'7", Bullock at 6'6", AJ Griffin at a chiseled 6'6" among the obvious options.

3. This allows us to seriously take a run at extending DeJounte, Okongwu or Saddiq.

Bogi is 6'-5", 6'-6" at best.

[Jamaaliver]

1. I am aware of the salary situation, just adamantly disagree about how we should go about lowering our salary.
2. Which one of those players do you feel are able to start? Because each one that you mentioned has a fairly major flaw, which is why they have been backups.
3. Saddiq is wanting Hunter type money, so are you okay with giving him that when he is a net-negative defender?

The Murray-Trae experiment isn't working. We need to cut our losses while he still has enough value to get us back a better piece.

We gave up 3 first round picks and a pick swap for D Murray. I'm willing to give it more than 1 season...especially since we just got a new coaching staff and offensive guru aboard.

If it doesn't work, we can always sign & trade, but I won't sell low on a talented player after one sub-par season. (Though expiring Dejounte and #15 for expiring Siakam could be appealing to TOR.)

I've lost hope in DeAndre Hunter. 4 seasons, and it appears like he's regressed.

No one is giving Saddiq $20 million per year. But with Hunter off the books, we'll have the flexibility to match a more reasonable offer in RFA next summer.

In this hypothetical, I'd probably start Reggie Bullock at SF for defense with the goal of moving Griffin into a starting role at some point in the season. I'd also be open to starting a rookie at SF if the right one falls in the draft.

[Jamaaliver]

Bogi is 6'-5", 6'-6" at best.

Noted. But he's also 220+ pounds with a 6'11" wingspan.

I do believe he can hold his own at SF for 15+ minutes per game.