Joel: unchained.

[Kobblehead]

Shaq was far less conditioned than Embiid and still dominated in the playoffs. The root of Embiid's playoff woes comes down to playstyle. Cosplaying as a scoring wing leads to missed field goals and turnovers and then he loses confidence and shells up.

I think the game is too different nowadays, you need to move much more on defense due to the 3pt threat, you can't just camp inside the paint all game and that's it.
I think Shaq would have some struggles on the defensive end, but on offense he would dominate for sure unlike Embiid.

Jokic and Brow play in the same league as Embiid and yet their numbers, even in losses, are way better than his. Embiid is just a bad playoff performer.

[Bum Adebayo]

Shaq was far less conditioned than Embiid and still dominated in the playoffs. The root of Embiid's playoff woes comes down to playstyle. Cosplaying as a scoring wing leads to missed field goals and turnovers and then he loses confidence and shells up.

I think the game is too different nowadays, you need to move much more on defense due to the 3pt threat, you can't just camp inside the paint all game and that's it.
I think Shaq would have some struggles on the defensive end, but on offense he would dominate for sure unlike Embiid.

Jokic and Brow play in the same league as Embiid and yet their numbers, even in losses, are way better than his. Embiid is just a bad playoff performer.

I was talking more about conditioning, but yeah you are right, Embiid has always been a beta loser, yeah Simmons was much worse and that masked Embiid's failures a bit but still.

[Ferry Avenue]

Shaq also had two of the best SG of all time (Wade and Kobe) who demanded the defense's attention. Joel has had Ben Simmons, Jimmy Butler, and James Harden. Ben was to be immediately dismissed on offense, Jimmy was in the shackles of Brett Brown and Ben's terrible offense, and Harden is simply not the scorer he once was.

If we had prime Kobe or Dwyane in this series, the Celtics would have been eviscerated on defense playing 2 centers to stop Joel.

That said, Joel should try to get that elusive DPOY award, become a 20-25ppg scorer on high efficiency, 15 rpg, and hand the offense to whoever Morey teams him up with.

But that in essence reflects the fact that Embiid is playing the wrong position to win in today’s NBA. Once again he’s the equivalent of a stud running back, when stud quarterbacks win.

[Negrodamus]

Shaq also had two of the best SG of all time (Wade and Kobe) who demanded the defense's attention. Joel has had Ben Simmons, Jimmy Butler, and James Harden. Ben was to be immediately dismissed on offense, Jimmy was in the shackles of Brett Brown and Ben's terrible offense, and Harden is simply not the scorer he once was.

If we had prime Kobe or Dwyane in this series, the Celtics would have been eviscerated on defense playing 2 centers to stop Joel.

That said, Joel should try to get that elusive DPOY award, become a 20-25ppg scorer on high efficiency, 15 rpg, and hand the offense to whoever Morey teams him up with.

But that in essence reflects the fact that Embiid is playing the wrong position to win in today’s NBA. Once again he’s the equivalent of a stud running back, when stud quarterbacks win.

Then get Adrian Peterson a quality QB, not decaying Brett Favre.

[phillynative]

Shaq also had two of the best SG of all time (Wade and Kobe) who demanded the defense's attention. Joel has had Ben Simmons, Jimmy Butler, and James Harden. Ben was to be immediately dismissed on offense, Jimmy was in the shackles of Brett Brown and Ben's terrible offense, and Harden is simply not the scorer he once was.

If we had prime Kobe or Dwyane in this series, the Celtics would have been eviscerated on defense playing 2 centers to stop Joel.

That said, Joel should try to get that elusive DPOY award, become a 20-25ppg scorer on high efficiency, 15 rpg, and hand the offense to whoever Morey teams him up with.

Speaking of guards Jamal Murray would be the second best player on this team.

[76thBearCub]

always been a beta loser, yeah

Yep

[Bum Adebayo]

Shaq also had two of the best SG of all time (Wade and Kobe) who demanded the defense's attention. Joel has had Ben Simmons, Jimmy Butler, and James Harden. Ben was to be immediately dismissed on offense, Jimmy was in the shackles of Brett Brown and Ben's terrible offense, and Harden is simply not the scorer he once was.

If we had prime Kobe or Dwyane in this series, the Celtics would have been eviscerated on defense playing 2 centers to stop Joel.

That said, Joel should try to get that elusive DPOY award, become a 20-25ppg scorer on high efficiency, 15 rpg, and hand the offense to whoever Morey teams him up with.

Speaking of guards Jamal Murray would be the second best player on this team.

In playoffs he would actually be our best player.

[ankle420breaker]

I've deliberated this extensively, I've taken pilgrimage to the Mecca, I've meditated with the Llama, I even did a Forrest Gump run of self reflection across the country....

I've come to terms with turning the page on Embiid. I'm just not a believer that he has the toughness and fortitude to advance us deeper into the playoffs and I'd pursue trades now while he's the reigning MVP at peak value.

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[ExplosionsInDaSky]

Shaq was far less conditioned than Embiid and still dominated in the playoffs. The root of Embiid's playoff woes comes down to playstyle. Cosplaying as a scoring wing leads to missed field goals and turnovers and then he loses confidence and shells up.

I think the game is too different nowadays, you need to move much more on defense due to the 3pt threat, you can't just camp inside the paint all game and that's it.
I think Shaq would have some struggles on the defensive end, but on offense he would dominate for sure unlike Embiid.

Embiid has led the league in scoring two years in a row. What are you talking about?

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

Boy this is getting ridiculous

[phifans]

Man It's 2023 nobody would be cheated by pure points averaged anymore especially for some guys who don't offer much else beside scores

[phillynative]

Shaq also had two of the best SG of all time (Wade and Kobe) who demanded the defense's attention. Joel has had Ben Simmons, Jimmy Butler, and James Harden. Ben was to be immediately dismissed on offense, Jimmy was in the shackles of Brett Brown and Ben's terrible offense, and Harden is simply not the scorer he once was.

If we had prime Kobe or Dwyane in this series, the Celtics would have been eviscerated on defense playing 2 centers to stop Joel.

That said, Joel should try to get that elusive DPOY award, become a 20-25ppg scorer on high efficiency, 15 rpg, and hand the offense to whoever Morey teams him up with.

Speaking of guards Jamal Murray would be the second best player on this team.

In playoffs he would actually be our best player.

Enlightening

[Bum Adebayo]

Shaq was far less conditioned than Embiid and still dominated in the playoffs. The root of Embiid's playoff woes comes down to playstyle. Cosplaying as a scoring wing leads to missed field goals and turnovers and then he loses confidence and shells up.

I think the game is too different nowadays, you need to move much more on defense due to the 3pt threat, you can't just camp inside the paint all game and that's it.
I think Shaq would have some struggles on the defensive end, but on offense he would dominate for sure unlike Embiid.

Embiid has led the league in scoring two years in a row. What are you talking about?

That's only in regular season, when the real basketball emerges, he folds like a cheap tent unlike Shaq.

[phillynative]

Has Joel's trainer said anything since his underwhelming exit from the playoffs? He usually on social media vouching for him and his wing like offensive abilities

[GoSixersBro]

My prediction is 75% of "Trade Embiid"ers will be back on his side come late September. Just like after December 2020.

[Mik317]

Has Joel's trainer said anything since his underwhelming exit from the playoffs? He usually on social media vouching for him and his wing like offensive abilities

Tatum putting up stinkers probably means he keeps quiet lol.

[Mik317]

My prediction is 75% of "Trade Embiid"ers will be back on his side come late September. Just like after December 2020.

most of them are dudes who never liked him in the first place it seems

so they will simply go awol like normal until the bad times return or for some find a new gimmick

[Arsenal]

Joel's rebounding has become very poor. Consistent decline over the years. He's nowhere near stud rebounders like Jokic and Davis, which is a huge problem.

Hopefully he focuses on that this offseason.

[phillynative]

Joel's rebounding has become very poor. Consistent decline over the years. He's nowhere near stud rebounders like Jokic and Davis, which is a huge problem.

Hopefully he focuses on that this offseason.

Sixers need to scale back his offensive load to help him focus back more on the basics like rebounding and finishing. Like most of us have agreed its time for him to have some help defending the paint as well. I think dropping some weight as he has gotten older and the injuries pile up should be mandatory this offseason as well.

[Mik317]

the rebounding issues is about him not liking to jump in traffic, contesting a lot in the drop, being spoiled that Ben was the rebound guy lol, and a general lack of focus on that aspect. He had this one game in which he made a point to attack the glass...and then just stopped lo.