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Re: Fake Trade Thread #5 

Post#361 » by LofJ » Sat May 13, 2023 8:47 pm

Braggins wrote:I like the players in the 6-8 range in this draft better than Kuminga tbh.


Yep, I like a lot of the players in this year's draft; and not just in the lottery. I think this will end up being one of the best draft classes in a while top to bottom. Short of pulling off a trade for a young star that fits like Jaylen Brown I have no interest in trading our pick.

I'd trade Cody Martin, 27, and 34 for Kuminga, but heck no to trading our lottery pick.
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Post#362 » by HornetJail » Sat May 13, 2023 10:53 pm

JDR720 wrote:Per Wiretap, Suns are interested in Terry.

Paul would be involved. But they don't have any more assets since they spent them all on KD.

they could trade a 2026 or 2030 swap if it came to that.

I don't believe that CP3 won't be in demand from multiple playoff teams, though. Think it's more likely that we send a couple of our 2nds.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #5 

Post#363 » by JMAC3 » Sun May 14, 2023 1:30 am

Yeah, no interest in CP3. He is too old to try and play 60 games for a playin team with no real title hopes.

I would much rather take a swing on Jordan Poole at age 23 then 38 yr old Chris Paul. Regardless of how bad the fit is.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #5 

Post#364 » by HornetJail » Sun May 14, 2023 9:57 pm

JMAC3 wrote:Yeah, no interest in CP3. He is too old to try and play 60 games for a playin team with no real title hopes.

I would much rather take a swing on Jordan Poole at age 23 then 38 yr old Chris Paul. Regardless of how bad the fit is.

CP3 is essentially an expiring contract and LaMelo could learn a ton from him. If you want a poor man's Terry Rozier then sure go for Poole.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #5 

Post#365 » by NCHeels2008 » Mon May 15, 2023 9:13 pm

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JMAC3 wrote:Yeah, no interest in CP3. He is too old to try and play 60 games for a playin team with no real title hopes.

I would much rather take a swing on Jordan Poole at age 23 then 38 yr old Chris Paul. Regardless of how bad the fit is.

CP3 is essentially an expiring contract and LaMelo could learn a ton from him. If you want a poor man's Terry Rozier then sure go for Poole.


Yea I remember when Rozier was playing so well they had a first ballot HOFer come off the bench so they could keep starting him
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #5 

Post#366 » by jayu70 » Tue May 16, 2023 12:53 am

Marlk Williams, Kai Jones, Nick Richards - 3 young Centers. Which one wpuld you say is most available?
It seems likely the Hawks will move Capela (traded elsewhere) this offseason to start Okongwu. Looking for a backup C.
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Post#367 » by SWedd523 » Tue May 16, 2023 7:55 am

Kai absolutely most available
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Post#368 » by wilson115 » Wed May 17, 2023 7:32 am

Call me obsessed but would anyone be interested in trading down if the Rockets threw in Eason?

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Post#369 » by luciano-davidwesley » Wed May 17, 2023 9:22 am

wilson115 wrote:Call me obsessed but would anyone be interested in trading down if the Rockets threw in Eason?


We'd be crazy to go lower than pick 3. And I'm only doing it if a future first is involved and hopefully an Eason type too.
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Post#370 » by spankymoore7 » Wed May 17, 2023 11:50 am

wilson115 wrote:Call me obsessed but would anyone be interested in trading down if the Rockets threw in Eason?



No just take Scoot
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #5 

Post#371 » by BeesWax » Wed May 17, 2023 12:35 pm

Now that we have the #2 I have been trying to figure out if we can pull off getting another pick in the top 8 or so. Can we take on some salary and help someone move. Maybe help Phoenix move on from Ayton and Paul by taking back bad money from someone to get a pick while they get Ayton. I was working on something Orlando based but just not sure how they view Carter and Isaac.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #5 

Post#372 » by dmutombo321 » Thu May 18, 2023 10:05 pm

This may not be a popular trade proposal with some but I'm going to put it out there because it makes a lot of sense... For those unfamiliar, look closely at the player and his body of work and watch him before forming an opinion.

To preface, I think Brandon Miller will be a fine pro. No question he's an elite shooter. What worries me, like others, is that most of his offense was derived from spotup shooting or 1-2 dribble jumpers and I have concerns about him creating for himself in the NBA. I think he'll face the same struggles that Jabari Smith Jr has experienced who was also a great college shooter. I like Henderson's upside but I'm not a fan of a Scoot/LaMelo pairing. LaMelo is perfectly capable of playing off the ball but that's not where he's at his best and he's not being fully optimized.

With that said, if last year's draft was redone today, Jalen Williams is a top 3 pick on most boards and no worse than 4. He was All Rookie first team and was starting to give Banchero a run for his money for ROY when he hit his stride by the end of the year.

His stats were skewed since his minutes were limited early. By later in the season, he was turning into a wrecking machine;

During the month of March when SGA was out allowing him to be featured on offense, Jalen averaged 20pts/6reb/4.5assist/1.7 steals while shooting 56% from the field, a blistering 46% from three and 87% from the foul line during that 15 game span.

He can defend, has PG caliber handles, creates for himself and others and would plug in beautifully at SG for CLT. At 6'5, 211 with a freakish 7'2 wingspan, he's a defensive menace and matchup problem for other SGs on offense.

Video linked at the bottom for those who didn't catch him man handle the Hornets in March.

He's already shown what his floor is and it's damn good. His ceiling could be perennial all star. He's young - 2001 born, the same as LaMelo, and has 4 years remaining on his rookie scale contract.

Why not inquire with the Thunder about trading the #2 for Jalen and a future first?

Or, if we really want to get crazy and are concerned about Lamelo's propensity for injury or skipping town in FA, keep the #2, draft Henderson as our PG and see if OKC has interest in LaMelo instead in exchange for Jalen and some of their treasure trove of future lotto picks (they own Houston's 2024).

A Scoot/JWilliams/Miles/PJ/Mark lineup would be a defensive nightmare for oppositions and even if Scoot never becomes more than a Westbrook level shooter, you've got capable gunners at the 2,3,4.

We'd additionally have cap space to pursue a max level free agent if we choose or to facilitate an additional trade next offseason with Hayward dropping off the books and no longer needing to earmark that money for Ball.




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Post#373 » by SWedd523 » Thu May 18, 2023 10:14 pm

I'm fine with it. Doubt they'd do it though. You're asking them to trade a guy who just played very well his rookie year and a pick for a guy who, in all likelihood, won't.

If the roles were reversed, I wouldn't do it from their perspective
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Post#374 » by luciano-davidwesley » Thu May 18, 2023 10:46 pm

dmutombo321 wrote:This may not be a popular trade proposal with some but I'm going to put it out there because it makes a lot of sense... For those unfamiliar, look closely at the player and his body of work and watch him before forming an opinion.

To preface, I think Brandon Miller will be a fine pro. No question he's an elite shooter. What worries me, like others, is that most of his offense was derived from spotup shooting or 1-2 dribble jumpers and I have concerns about him creating for himself in the NBA. I think he'll face the same struggles that Jabari Smith Jr has experienced who was also a great college shooter. I like Henderson's upside but I'm not a fan of a Scoot/LaMelo pairing. LaMelo is perfectly capable of playing off the ball but that's not where he's at his best and he's not being fully optimized.

With that said, if last year's draft was redone today, Jalen Williams is a top 3 pick on most boards and no worse than 4. He was All Rookie first team and was starting to give Banchero a run for his money for ROY when he hit his stride by the end of the year.

His stats were skewed since his minutes were limited early. By later in the season, he was turning into a wrecking machine;

During the month of March when SGA was out allowing him to be featured on offense, Jalen averaged 20pts/6reb/4.5assist/1.7 steals while shooting 56% from the field, a blistering 46% from three and 87% from the foul line during that 15 game span.

He can defend, has PG caliber handles, creates for himself and others and would plug in beautifully at SG for CLT. At 6'5, 211 with a freakish 7'2 wingspan, he's a defensive menace and matchup problem for other SGs on offense.

Video linked at the bottom for those who didn't catch him man handle the Hornets in March.

He's already shown what his floor is and it's damn good. His ceiling could be perennial all star. He's young - 2001 born, the same as LaMelo, and has 4 years remaining on his rookie scale contract.

Why not inquire with the Thunder about trading the #2 for Jalen and a future first?

Or, if we really want to get crazy and are concerned about Lamelo's propensity for injury or skipping town in FA, keep the #2, draft Henderson as our PG and see if OKC has interest in LaMelo instead in exchange for Jalen and some of their treasure trove of future lotto picks (they own Houston's 2024).

A Scoot/JWilliams/Miles/PJ/Mark lineup would be a defensive nightmare for oppositions and even if Scoot never becomes more than a Westbrook level shooter, you've got capable gunners at the 2,3,4.

We'd additionally have cap space to pursue a max level free agent if we choose or to facilitate an additional trade next offseason with Hayward dropping off the books and no longer needing to earmark that money for Ball.





I'd consider Jalen Williams for 2 or Lamelo for Jalen Williams, Hou 24 1st +
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #5 

Post#375 » by LofJ » Thu May 25, 2023 4:21 am

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I don't think there's anyway we trade out of the top 3, but I could see the Blazers making a deal.
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Post#376 » by SWedd523 » Thu May 25, 2023 4:44 am

Send me Mathurin and 7 and we can talk
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Post#377 » by Liver_Pooty » Thu May 25, 2023 4:48 am

I'm done trading down after the Felton sean may fiasco when we could've had deron williams or chris paul. Keep the pick and just pick whomever is the best player available. That draft ruined me.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #5 

Post#378 » by BeesWax » Thu May 25, 2023 10:30 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:I'm done trading down after the Felton sean may fiasco when we could've had deron williams or chris paul. Keep the pick and just pick whomever is the best player available. That draft ruined me.

I am mostly with you on this. I would not part with 2 for a package of picks because of the gamble. On the other hand if they got Mathurin and 7 and 26 it would be hard to say no. If they could package 26, 27 and a second to move up high enough to get GG Jackson that would be a great draft.

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Re: Fake Trade Thread #5 

Post#379 » by LofJ » Thu May 25, 2023 2:51 pm

This is 99% likely to be fake, but if Mitch pulled this off we'd all have to bow down to him.

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Post#380 » by BeesWax » Thu May 25, 2023 4:08 pm

If that were true we would be crazy not to take it. Adding two top ten picks in the draft this offseason would be huge. Trade some of our later picks for future or to move up and have an influx of young talent.
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