Trade Pascal to Portland/Warriors?

[whatisacenter]

Warriors fan here, any interest in a Poole/Kuminga/pick 19 for Siakam? Might need additional pieces/pick from Dubs.

Poole, Kuminga, Moody, 19, and unprotected 2026 & 2028 picks would get me on board.

But I’m still high on Kuminga, most aren’t.

Yeah, that’s a no thanks for me.

Saw GS in the thread title, without having to go the the thread who were you guys looking at on the Warriors roster?

[NotMyKawhi]

Warriors fan here, any interest in a Poole/Kuminga/pick 19 for Siakam? Might need additional pieces/pick from Dubs.

Poole, Kuminga, Moody, 19, and unprotected 2026 & 2028 picks would get me on board.

But I’m still high on Kuminga, most aren’t.

Yeah, that’s a no thanks for me.

Saw GS in the thread title, without having to go the the thread who were you guys looking at on the Warriors roster?

Raptors fans are delusional, don't worry.

They always demand stuff like this and then we end up trading 1st round picks for 40 year old thad young. Smart move saying no

[ArthurVandelay]

Warriors fan here, any interest in a Poole/Kuminga/pick 19 for Siakam? Might need additional pieces/pick from Dubs.

Poole, Kuminga, Moody, 19, and unprotected 2026 & 2028 picks would get me on board.

But I’m still high on Kuminga, most aren’t.

Yeah, that’s a no thanks for me.

Saw GS in the thread title, without having to go the the thread who were you guys looking at on the Warriors roster?

Fair enough but Poole currently has negative value due to his contract so I’m adding Kuminga to take him.

Then Raptors are giving up an all-NBA/all-star caliber player so 3 picks and Moody.

Could put top 4 protection on 26 and 28.

But that is my rationale.

[whatisacenter]

Poole, Kuminga, Moody, 19, and unprotected 2026 & 2028 picks would get me on board.

But I’m still high on Kuminga, most aren’t.

Yeah, that’s a no thanks for me.

Saw GS in the thread title, without having to go the the thread who were you guys looking at on the Warriors roster?

Raptors fans are delusional, don't worry.

They always demand stuff like this and then we end up trading 1st round picks for 40 year old thad young. Smart move saying no

I thought it was too high for an expiring Siakam but some people see Kuminga and Poole more negatively than I do.

Good luck in the offseason!

[Dude-niagara]

Warriors fan here, any interest in a Poole/Kuminga/pick 19 for Siakam? Might need additional pieces/pick from Dubs.

Yes you can have Siakam, his fanboys are to basketball stupid to understand that he and Barnes are complete overlaps. They prefer Siakam pad his stats and then complain why Barnes is not improving and scoring more

[Duffman100]

Warriors fan here, any interest in a Poole/Kuminga/pick 19 for Siakam? Might need additional pieces/pick from Dubs.

Yes you can have Siakam, his fanboys are to basketball stupid to understand that he and Barnes are complete overlaps. They prefer Siakam pad his stats and then complain why Barnes is not improving and scoring more

Or you know, rather not trade our all-NBA calibre player for a 34% 3 point / no defense chucker, a prospect whose development has been limited and a 19th pick overall.

Barnes isn't improving because he doesn't have a jumpshot. It has nothing to do with Pascal.

[LoveMyRaps]

Warriors fan here, any interest in a Poole/Kuminga/pick 19 for Siakam? Might need additional pieces/pick from Dubs.

Yes you can have Siakam, his fanboys are to basketball stupid to understand that he and Barnes are complete overlaps. They prefer Siakam pad his stats and then complain why Barnes is not improving and scoring more

All because two players can't co-exist on the same team, doesn't mean you just give away one of them for a lackluster offer.

Pinhead.

[Duffman100]

Warriors fan here, any interest in a Poole/Kuminga/pick 19 for Siakam? Might need additional pieces/pick from Dubs.

Yes you can have Siakam, his fanboys are to basketball stupid to understand that he and Barnes are complete overlaps. They prefer Siakam pad his stats and then complain why Barnes is not improving and scoring more

All because two players can't co-exist on the same team, doesn't mean you just give away one of them for a lackluster offer.

Pinhead.

They also can co-exist. Barnes just needs to learn how to shoot.

[bballsparkin]

Raptors fans are delusional, don't worry.

They always demand stuff like this and then we end up trading 1st round picks for 40 year old thad young. Smart move saying no

The unprotected picks was a bit much. I think people are basing future transactions off of recent ones like Gobert, Murray and Mitchell. I doubt that's likely to happen this summer. Maybe Mitchell level plus contract.

At the same time Poole, Kuminga, Moody and #19 reads like a magic mystery box. No sure fire prospect in the bunch as I see it. I wouldn't be surprised if they all are duds. Then again I wouldn't be surprised if they all succeeded.

Pascal and OG are Masai's guys. They won't be cheap. I'd like to go younger but it seems my vote doesn't count. Stay tuned.

[bballsparkin]

They also can co-exist. Barnes just needs to learn how to shoot.

That all eh? Piece of cake then. Don't forget Jakob's lack of shooting.

[Spida888]

Yeah, that’s a no thanks for me.

Saw GS in the thread title, without having to go the the thread who were you guys looking at on the Warriors roster?

Raptors fans are delusional, don't worry.

They always demand stuff like this and then we end up trading 1st round picks for 40 year old thad young. Smart move saying no

I thought it was too high for an expiring Siakam but some people see Kuminga and Poole more negatively than I do.

Good luck in the offseason!

I like Kuminga. He's already pretty good defensively and he's still very young with time to figure out other gaps in his game. Moody looks like he can be a good 3+D role player as well one day. Poole is a negative contract right now, so we'd need some sweetener.

Siakam for Poole + Kuminga + Moody + 2023 FRP + 2026 FRP is probably fair. I don't think we'll be able to extract the 2028 FRP as well with Siakam being an expiring. Those post-Curry FRPs will be juicy.

[NotMyKawhi]

Raptors fans are delusional, don't worry.

They always demand stuff like this and then we end up trading 1st round picks for 40 year old thad young. Smart move saying no

The unprotected picks was a bit much. I think people are basing future transactions off of recent ones like Gobert, Murray and Mitchell. I doubt that's likely to happen this summer. Maybe Mitchell level plus contract.

At the same time Poole, Kuminga, Moody and #19 reads like a magic mystery box. No sure fire prospect in the bunch as I see it. I wouldn't be surprised if they all are duds. Then again I wouldn't be surprised if they all succeeded.

Pascal and OG are Masai's guys. They won't be cheap. I'd like to go younger but it seems my vote doesn't count. Stay tuned.

I'll be real, once you sign Pascal to over 40 million a year, you won't get half as much as that. Its just part of the game. Its hard to trade those big contracts. Its why the blazers will have trouble trading Dame. They should rebuild and trade Dame but i think they realize they cant and get fair value back

[Dalek]

If we trade with Warriors I don't think they open their whole chest just for Pascal who only has one year left on his deal and is unrestricted. Pascal is great but there is no guarantee he works out and wants to stay.

Poole is a guy they just signed and will build around not a guy they need to dump. He is going to be key when Steph retires.

If anyone, it would be Andrew Wiggins coming to Toronto. He has a few years left on his deal and is a productive wing with Toronto roots. He doesn't equal Pascal's value for sure, but he was at near 40% from three, and will fit better with Scottie. Not sure what the personal situation was that he faced, but coming home might help him reset.

Maybe we get Moody and/or this year's first to boost the compensation.

[Crazy-Canuck]

I'm not pooles biggest fan, but I do think he's getting underrated.

Alot of his deficiencies on the Warriors are due to fit.

1.He really struggles in a motion offense because his off ball activity is lacklustre. But when steph is out and he can be more of a point of attack guard, he can put up some numbers.
2. His defense is bad, but it looked worse because steph and klay were also bad this year. Not having wiggins for half the year and no rim protection didn't help.
3. He simply wired to be a starter. I think he gets more comfortable as he gets more touches and consistent minutes.

Imo, alot of the things poole can do on the court will get highlighted and some of his defense mitigated on a roster like the raptors.

[BHF]

Remember the reputation Lowry had before joining the raps? Bad attitude and bunch of other bs, hell we even started Jose freaking Slowderon over him. You never know Poole could turn it around and we could have a great player. He has shown flashes of greatness in the past.

[Dude-niagara]

Warriors fan here, any interest in a Poole/Kuminga/pick 19 for Siakam? Might need additional pieces/pick from Dubs.

Yes you can have Siakam, his fanboys are to basketball stupid to understand that he and Barnes are complete overlaps. They prefer Siakam pad his stats and then complain why Barnes is not improving and scoring more

Or you know, rather not trade our all-NBA calibre player for a 34% 3 point / no defense chucker, a prospect whose development has been limited and a 19th pick overall.

Barnes isn't improving because he doesn't have a jumpshot. It has nothing to do with Pascal.

That is your opinion because Barnes needs the ball more, Siakam is a choker and getting older. What do you lose trading , will be 30 next season and team has now missed playoffs twice in 3 seasons.

[Dude-niagara]

Warriors fan here, any interest in a Poole/Kuminga/pick 19 for Siakam? Might need additional pieces/pick from Dubs.

Yes you can have Siakam, his fanboys are to basketball stupid to understand that he and Barnes are complete overlaps. They prefer Siakam pad his stats and then complain why Barnes is not improving and scoring more

All because two players can't co-exist on the same team, doesn't mean you just give away one of them for a lackluster offer. I will agree that there could be better deals available but also keep in mind that Siakam is on an expiring contract. So his value is not as high as someone signed for multiple years.

Pinhead.

[Dude-niagara]

Yes you can have Siakam, his fanboys are to basketball stupid to understand that he and Barnes are complete overlaps. They prefer Siakam pad his stats and then complain why Barnes is not improving and scoring more

All because two players can't co-exist on the same team, doesn't mean you just give away one of them for a lackluster offer.

Pinhead.

They also can co-exist. Barnes just needs to learn how to shoot.

No they cannot co exist because neither Siakam/Barnes and now Yak are shooters. The spacing will be a serious problem

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