Victor Wembanyama Mega-Thread - For all your Wembanyama needs!

[D.Brasco]

I hate to keep harping on this but his body type (extreme height, slender build) and perimeter oriented playstyle do not seem suited at all for a healthy career. I hope I'm wrong I just can't see it yet.

I'd say slender is definitely better than overweight, less weight and pressure on knees/lower back/feet.
Muscles can be strong enough and supportive without necessarily being massive, so strength exercises are important. Landing technique, stretching, rest and recovery routines are also important. Wemby is known to be working on all the above even though he doesn't try to bulk up, and that is intentional because he is targeting a playing style that is based on agility and looks more like KD than Shaq or even Giannis.

Bottom line is, if there is one guy who is fully aware of the risks of injury to big men is Wemby and his group of trainers and doctors. And so are the Spurs by the way, after all it's them who invented load management exactly for this reason.

I think for his sake landing on the Spurs is probably the best situation but it will dampen some of the crazy media hype. He's not going to be playing that many minutes his first season and will probably be a couple years before he get heavy minutes, which long term will be better for him.

All the comparisons to Duncan are silly though as Duncan was near MVP caliber within his first couple years. Being 22 and a 4 year college player were major reasons for that ofc.

[Pachinko_]

I hate to keep harping on this but his body type (extreme height, slender build) and perimeter oriented playstyle do not seem suited at all for a healthy career. I hope I'm wrong I just can't see it yet.

I'd say slender is definitely better than overweight, less weight and pressure on knees/lower back/feet.
Muscles can be strong enough and supportive without necessarily being massive, so strength exercises are important. Landing technique, stretching, rest and recovery routines are also important. Wemby is known to be working on all the above even though he doesn't try to bulk up, and that is intentional because he is targeting a playing style that is based on agility and looks more like KD than Shaq or even Giannis.

Bottom line is, if there is one guy who is fully aware of the risks of injury to big men is Wemby and his group of trainers and doctors. And so are the Spurs by the way, after all it's them who invented load management exactly for this reason.

I think for his sake landing on the Spurs is probably the best situation but it will dampen some of the crazy media hype. He's not going to be playing that many minutes his first season and will probably be a couple years before he get heavy minutes, which long term will be better for him.

All the comparisons to Duncan are silly though as Duncan was near MVP caliber within his first couple years. Being 22 and a 4 year college player were major reasons for that ofc.

Yeah I think they'll probably play him something like 65 games and 25 minutes a game, but any sign of something being sore he's out immediately.

[durden_tyler]

So do or die playoff game for Wemby today (2:30AM in my time zone), good thing this is in League Pass, right

[Exp0sed]

I think the Spurs should trade for Scoot if they can get a decent deal
there were reports that the Hornets aren't gonna pick him so he might even be available if the Spurs acquire Portland's #3

they certainly have the picks to move up the draft if they so desired

i'm not really familiar with Tre Jones but i'm assuming he's a less promising prospect than Scoot
Spurs can nab a 1+2 punch in this draft, both can grow together which should bode well for future team chemistry etc

it'll be great profile and marketing wise as well i'd assume, and these guys already know each other a bit and seem to have mutual respect for each other

would be alot of fun that's for sure

thoughts?

[durden_tyler]

I think the Spurs should trade for Scoot if they can get a decent deal
there were reports that the Hornets aren't gonna pick him so he might even be available if the Spurs acquire Portland's #3

they certainly have the picks to move up the draft if they so desired

i'm not really familiar with Tre Jones but i'm assuming he's a less promising prospect than Scoot
Spurs can nab a 1+2 punch in this draft, both can grow together which should bode well for future team chemistry etc

it'll be great profile and marketing wise as well i'd assume, and these guys already know each other a bit and seem to have mutual respect for each other

would be alot of fun that's for sure

thoughts?

LOL. No.

[UcanUwill]

92 goes to semis, I believe?

Victor in a closer game - 19 points (8/16 FG : 0/1 3PT : 3/3 FT); 9 rebounds ; 4 assists, 2 blocks ; 2 TO ; +15 +/- : 33:48

Just 1 tree pointer attempted thank goodness, highest +/- on a team, 4 assists, 7'5 who just played 34 minutes in a 40 minute game.

[Bornstellar]

92 goes to semis, I believe?

Victor in a closer game - 19 points (8/16 FG : 0/1 3PT : 3/3 FT); 9 rebounds ; 4 assists, 2 blocks ; 2 TO ; +15 +/- : 33:48

Just 1 tree pointer attempted thank goodness, highest +/- on a team, 4 assists, 7'5 who just played 34 minutes in a 40 minute game.

Really looks like he played a controlled game and didn't force much action. I'm not going to pretend to be super familiar with how the Mets92 operate, but it seems like they don't really use him as the focal point of their offense like he will most likely be used in the NBA

[Exp0sed]

I think the Spurs should trade for Scoot if they can get a decent deal
there were reports that the Hornets aren't gonna pick him so he might even be available if the Spurs acquire Portland's #3

they certainly have the picks to move up the draft if they so desired

i'm not really familiar with Tre Jones but i'm assuming he's a less promising prospect than Scoot
Spurs can nab a 1+2 punch in this draft, both can grow together which should bode well for future team chemistry etc

it'll be great profile and marketing wise as well i'd assume, and these guys already know each other a bit and seem to have mutual respect for each other

would be alot of fun that's for sure

thoughts?

LOL. No.

Why not?

[durden_tyler]

I think the Spurs should trade for Scoot if they can get a decent deal
there were reports that the Hornets aren't gonna pick him so he might even be available if the Spurs acquire Portland's #3

they certainly have the picks to move up the draft if they so desired

i'm not really familiar with Tre Jones but i'm assuming he's a less promising prospect than Scoot
Spurs can nab a 1+2 punch in this draft, both can grow together which should bode well for future team chemistry etc

it'll be great profile and marketing wise as well i'd assume, and these guys already know each other a bit and seem to have mutual respect for each other

would be alot of fun that's for sure

thoughts?

LOL. No.

Why not?

How will the Spurs get another high lottery pick without giving up Wemby? They don’t have the assets.

[ReginaldDwight]

I think the Spurs should trade for Scoot if they can get a decent deal
there were reports that the Hornets aren't gonna pick him so he might even be available if the Spurs acquire Portland's #3

they certainly have the picks to move up the draft if they so desired

i'm not really familiar with Tre Jones but i'm assuming he's a less promising prospect than Scoot
Spurs can nab a 1+2 punch in this draft, both can grow together which should bode well for future team chemistry etc

it'll be great profile and marketing wise as well i'd assume, and these guys already know each other a bit and seem to have mutual respect for each other

would be alot of fun that's for sure

thoughts?

LOL. No.

Why not?

You won't get equal value. Scoot is a nice prospect but not one GM in the league would be trading number 1 this year.

[Exp0sed]

LOL. No.

Why not?

How will the Spurs get another high lottery pick without giving up Wemby? They don’t have the assets.

easily

i wasn't talking about giving up Wemby lmfao, and for Scoot of all ppl haha
I was just talking about packaging some of their lower picks to move up, similar to the Fultz\Tatum trade

they have a ton of future firsts

Portland might be looking to trade #3 for actual players, make a 3 way deal with Portland and another team who can give Portland a player they would trade #3 for, it's not that complicated

4 firsts (with top 5-10 proetction or whatever) seem to be te going rate for an all-star caliber player

[Exp0sed]

LOL. No.

Why not?

You won't get equal value. Scoot is a nice prospect but not one GM in the league would be trading number 1 this year.

again, i wasn't suggesting trading Wemby
i was suggesting making a trade that involves multiple future firsts for the #2 or #3 pick in order to pair Scoot with Wemby

for reference, the Spurs have their own 2024 1st and they also have Charlotte and Toronto's 1st in 2024
in 2025 they have their own 1st + Chicago's 1st + Atlanta's 1st

that's just in the near future! they have more 1sts further down the line

If Wemby is gonna be as impactful as i think he's gonna be right of the bat, Spurs picks are gonna be meh anyway
they are gonna get good and competetive real fast, they would be smart to package their own 1sts for the next few years

[durden_tyler]

Why not?

You won't get equal value. Scoot is a nice prospect but not one GM in the league would be trading number 1 this year.

again, i wasn't suggesting trading Wemby
i was suggesting making a trade that involves multiple future firsts for the #2 or #3 pick in order to pair Scoot with Wemby

for reference, the Spurs have their own 2024 1st and they also have Charlotte and Toronto's 1st in 2024
in 2025 they have their own 1st + Chicago's 1st + Atlanta's 1st

that's just in the near future! they have more 1sts further down the line

If Wemby is gonna be as impactful as i think he's gonna be right of the bat, Spurs picks are gonna be meh anyway
they are gonna get good and competetive real fast, they would be smart to package their own 1sts for the next few years

That is indeed a good plan if your target is getting the top two players in this draft and building from that core. But the Spurs just don't have many assets-- that includes the future assets, i just don't see any team settling for those.

[Exp0sed]

You won't get equal value. Scoot is a nice prospect but not one GM in the league would be trading number 1 this year.

again, i wasn't suggesting trading Wemby
i was suggesting making a trade that involves multiple future firsts for the #2 or #3 pick in order to pair Scoot with Wemby

for reference, the Spurs have their own 2024 1st and they also have Charlotte and Toronto's 1st in 2024
in 2025 they have their own 1st + Chicago's 1st + Atlanta's 1st

that's just in the near future! they have more 1sts further down the line

If Wemby is gonna be as impactful as i think he's gonna be right of the bat, Spurs picks are gonna be meh anyway
they are gonna get good and competetive real fast, they would be smart to package their own 1sts for the next few years

That is indeed a good plan if your target is getting the top two players in this draft and building from that core. But the Spurs just don't have many assets-- that includes the future assets, i just don't see any team settling for those.

that was precisely the plan i was proposing

The Spurs don't have assests in way of tradeable players but they have a ton of future firsts, from there it's just a question of working the phones.

pick up the phone, call Portland's or Charlotte's GM and see what they would like to get in return and see if a deal coule be agreed on. I think there is a deal to be made there, just need to figure out which player specifically does Portland want in return for their #3

there should be mutual interest there as long as Dame isn't traded, PDX doesn't need that #3 they need a win now player.

what would it take to get say...Siakam to PDX? how about Randle, KAT, Lavine or Derozan?
just a list of random all-star caliber guys who in theory should be pretty available for the right price and could help a team like Portland win rn (Derozan is obviously too old to be worth anywhere near #3 but threw him out there anyway).

edit: if the C's can't accomplish their miracle comback, perhaps Jaylen will be in that mix as well

[antonac]

IMO Scoot is another in an increasingly long line of score first PGs that can't shoot very well. He'll look fantastic while giving you very little in terms of real on-court production.

In fact one of the reasons I think Denver have done well is they've been able to exploit the abundance of these players by having their center run point to an all-time level, but if you don't have that front court option, and Wemby gives you a lot but not that, these guys aren't nearly as impactful. If I'm charlotte I bite the hand off anyone that's prepared to give me multiple future draft assets.

[Exp0sed]

IMO Scoot is another in an increasingly long line of score first PGs that can't shoot very well. He'll look fantastic while giving you very little in terms of real on-court production.

In fact one of the reasons I think Denver have done well is they've been able to exploit the abundance of these players by having their center run point to an all-time level, but if you don't have that front court option, and Wemby gives you a lot but not that, these guys aren't nearly as impactful. If I'm charlotte I bite the hand off anyone that's prepared to give me multiple future draft assets.

to be fair, apart from that Wemby\Scoot matchup I haven't seen Scoot play and have no opinion on him as a prospect

i'm just assuming that if he's talked about all season long as a possible #2 pick or top 3, whatever that the potential is there

obviously if the Spurs don't like him as a prospect they shouldn't make a move to obtain him

[DoItALL9]

Who will get past the second round first, Wemby or Embiid?

Depends on who Philly signs to coach

[Slim Charlez]

LOL. No.

Why not?

How will the Spurs get another high lottery pick without giving up Wemby? They don’t have the assets.

They have a ton of future picks and some good young players.

[Jkam31]

Why would anyone trade down when the assets there receiving is Tre Jones

[Madhouse]

If Spurs want to trade up, they should be ready to give up pretty much everyone and future picks to get Scoot Henderson imo.

still don't think this happens but if you trade your future picks, Vassell etc. you might have a conversation