Who should/will be new Sixers coach?

Monix · Post #141 » by **Monix** » Wed May 24, 2023 8:44 pm

why would D'Antoni even be considered?

he's in his 70s
worse regular season and playoff record than Rivers
for those of you who its an issue for - does he have a track record of playing/developing young players with Houston, NY, LA?

it's over for D'Antoni, move along

mjkvol · Post #142 » by **mjkvol** » Wed May 24, 2023 9:41 pm

Monix wrote:why would D'Antoni even be considered?

he's in his 70s
worse regular season and playoff record than Rivers
for those of you who its an issue for - does he have a track record of playing/developing young players with Houston, NY, LA?

it's over for D'Antoni, move along

He'll be considered for one simple reason - if the hope is to bring Harden back, this would be something that appeals to him, and his offenses with Harden were pretty dynamic. I'm not saying it's what I want, just answering your question.

If Harden is gone, he's not even in the picture.

mjkvol · Post #143 » by **mjkvol** » Wed May 24, 2023 9:55 pm

I really believe that hiring a coach before settling the Harden situation and/or deciding if next year is going to be another balls to the wall run or a reset season is putting the cart before the horse.

I'm not sure that one coach is going to be the best for any and all of those options. My hope, one that is highly doubtful to happen, is that we let Harden go while trying to do a S&T, and use 2023-24 as a reset year, clearing salary, accumulating assets, and handing the reins to Maxey. If that was the case, I might look at some top assistants from good organizations like Miami and Golden State.

Selling Embiid on such a plan might be difficult, but I don't believe Morey is thinking of anything but 'going for it' again, anyway.

eyeatoma · Post #144 » by **eyeatoma** » Thu May 25, 2023 10:57 pm

Negrodamus wrote:If Harden returns, I'm all in on D'Antoni. If he leaves, then I'm all in on Nurse.

If we're going to have Harden into his twilight years, we might as well make everyone as happy as possible for an outside chance at a championship. Embiid was on board with him before, obviously Harden loves him.

In the end, I think this would result in an angry Embiid. I don't know a single big man that had the offense run through him in a D'Antoni offense. Harden's role will expand greatly, Embiid will move to an assist converter on offense, which honestly is the smartest thing for him. If Embiid can play like DPOY and average 20-25 ppg, then we're in excellent shape.

Stat was awesome in Phoenix. Not the game usage but used appropriately based on his talents.

eyeatoma · Post #145 » by **eyeatoma** » Thu May 25, 2023 10:59 pm

People keep mentioning D'Antoni but has he even been interviewed? I know he was mentioned as a candidate on the Woj tweet.

Decipher · Post #146 » by **Decipher** » Thu May 25, 2023 11:10 pm

mjkvol wrote:I really believe that hiring a coach before settling the Harden situation and/or deciding if next year is going to be another balls to the wall run or a reset season is putting the cart before the horse.

I'm not sure that one coach is going to be the best for any and all of those options. My hope, one that is highly doubtful to happen, is that we let Harden go while trying to do a S&T, and use 2023-24 as a reset year, clearing salary, accumulating assets, and handing the reins to Maxey. If that was the case, I might look at some top assistants from good organizations like Miami and Golden State.

Selling Embiid on such a plan might be difficult, but I don't believe Morey is thinking of anything but 'going for it' again, anyway.

Free agency doesn’t start until June 30 and draft is June 22

Factor in that there’s competition from other top teams for a coach and I assume that someone will be appointed before then

mjkvol · Post #147 » by **mjkvol** » Fri May 26, 2023 12:17 am

Decipher wrote:
mjkvol wrote:I really believe that hiring a coach before settling the Harden situation and/or deciding if next year is going to be another balls to the wall run or a reset season is putting the cart before the horse.

I'm not sure that one coach is going to be the best for any and all of those options. My hope, one that is highly doubtful to happen, is that we let Harden go while trying to do a S&T, and use 2023-24 as a reset year, clearing salary, accumulating assets, and handing the reins to Maxey. If that was the case, I might look at some top assistants from good organizations like Miami and Golden State.

Selling Embiid on such a plan might be difficult, but I don't believe Morey is thinking of anything but 'going for it' again, anyway.

Free agency doesn’t start until June 30 and draft is June 22

Factor in that there’s competition from other top teams for a coach and I assume that someone will be appointed before then

I was mainly referring to the Harden situation. I'm sure they have already mapped out plans moving forward with and without Harden here.

Negrodamus · Post #148 » by **Negrodamus** » Fri May 26, 2023 12:40 am

eyeatoma wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:If Harden returns, I'm all in on D'Antoni. If he leaves, then I'm all in on Nurse.

If we're going to have Harden into his twilight years, we might as well make everyone as happy as possible for an outside chance at a championship. Embiid was on board with him before, obviously Harden loves him.

In the end, I think this would result in an angry Embiid. I don't know a single big man that had the offense run through him in a D'Antoni offense. Harden's role will expand greatly, Embiid will move to an assist converter on offense, which honestly is the smartest thing for him. If Embiid can play like DPOY and average 20-25 ppg, then we're in excellent shape.
Stat was awesome in Phoenix. Not the game usage but used appropriately based on his talents.

Stoudemire has Nash and D’Antoni to thank for his career. He was a great assist converter but definitely not a creator in any way.

sixers4real · Post #149 » by **sixers4real** » Fri May 26, 2023 6:13 am

Read on Twitter

If it’s not Nurse, and the only way Harden stays means MDA, I’m won’t be upset.

I might be in minority, but I don’t want to let Harden walk for nothing.

rocketsfan100 · Post #150 » by **rocketsfan100** » Fri May 26, 2023 7:07 am

Yeah I think MDA is named the head coach harden is likely back for a 4 year 160 million contract

Mik317 · Post #151 » by **Mik317** » Fri May 26, 2023 12:39 pm

MDA is an offensive genius so there is that

however I'd have no faith in it because it will be yet another Darryl goes back to the same dried up well move and we don't need more of that.

Kobblehead · Post #152 » by **Kobblehead** » Fri May 26, 2023 12:55 pm

If Nurse takes the Suns job, give Cassel a chance.

Arsenal · Post #153 » by **Arsenal** » Fri May 26, 2023 1:54 pm

If those rumors are true I want Bud. He should be ours assuming he doesn't want to take a year off / paid vacation.

Otherwise ok with MDA assuming Harden is back.

If not, look at younger guys like Chris Quinn, Kevin Young, Sam Cassell, etc.

mjkvol · Post #154 » by **mjkvol** » Fri May 26, 2023 1:55 pm

Kobblehead wrote:If Nurse takes the Suns job, give Cassel a chance.

I wonder why Joerger isn't in the mix? Maybe he doesn't want a HC gig.

zaz102 · Post #155 » by **zaz102** » Fri May 26, 2023 3:41 pm

For the people that hated Doc and want Cassell, why?

He served under Doc for a long time and has been with the team for the past couple years. I doubt he has been holding back anything significant from Doc.

I personally have no issue with him and obviously, he could explain to Morey what he would different than Doc in an interview. Just curious.

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ExplosionsInDaSky · Post #156 » by **ExplosionsInDaSky** » Fri May 26, 2023 4:02 pm

For me at this point I would vote for Vogel or Budenholzer based off of our roster and how it is currently constructed. Preferably Budz, but I like both.
Hiring either one of them wouldn't necessarily give us anything more on what Harden is going to ultimately do. I do think he's gone and it's back to Houston. But neither one of those guys would really swing it either way, whereas hiring D'Antoni would all but promise a Harden return.
I realize patience isn't a term most people in Philly can even define much less relate to, but I think that's what needs to be practiced in this situation. There hasn't been a ton of firings this offseason, I think we'll be ok just kind of waiting this out for a bit. Let the season end, let the draft pass since we aren't participating. I think after that we'll know more about what's to come.
Overall, I think this is going to be a quiet offseason for us. I think our coaching hire will be one of the more exhilarating moves this summer.

ExplosionsInDaSky · Post #157 » by **ExplosionsInDaSky** » Fri May 26, 2023 4:07 pm

If it's true that Doc may be going into broadcasting, that's pretty cool. My question is what happens to the rest of his coaching staff? I mean, if that's the case, then put Sam Cassell's name into the mix right away. I don't necessarily think Cassell's style would be a carbon copy of what Doc did. It's not like he's a Doc clone. He's going to think for himself, he's going to have a different vision. He may be able to take the good parts of Doc and make them better? I'm just saying, I wouldn't rule out Cassell as an option. He's buddies with Maxey and if Harden walks and Maxey gets the keys, I think Cassell by his side can only be a good thing.

mjkvol · Post #158 » by **mjkvol** » Sat May 27, 2023 8:16 pm

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/271716/Bucks-To-Hire-Adrian-Griffin-As-Next-Coach

It has to be Nurse here. I'm not sure who ends up in PHO, but they had to come to their senses on Glenn.

Arsenal · Post #159 » by **Arsenal** » Sat May 27, 2023 8:52 pm

mjkvol wrote:https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/271716/Bucks-To-Hire-Adrian-Griffin-As-Next-Coach

It has to be Nurse here. I'm not sure who ends up in PHO, but they had to come to their senses on Glenn.

Unless Nurse goes to PHO. Whichever of Nurse or Bud the Suns don't get should be ours.

mjkvol · Post #160 » by **mjkvol** » Sat May 27, 2023 9:20 pm

Arsenal wrote:
mjkvol wrote:https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/271716/Bucks-To-Hire-Adrian-Griffin-As-Next-Coach

It has to be Nurse here. I'm not sure who ends up in PHO, but they had to come to their senses on Glenn.

Unless Nurse goes to PHO. Whichever of Nurse or Bud the Suns don't get should be ours.

And you know what? Both have won titles, and in this century no less!

Who should be the new 76ers coach?