2023 NBA Draft – Thurs, 8PM, June 22

[bucknersrevenge]

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Good lord.

Yeah, no way we're getting him unless we trade WAY up.

He's a lottery pick, IMO. He's #13 on my personal big board at the moment.

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[Kalela]

Good lord.

Yeah, no way we're getting him unless we trade WAY up.

He's a lottery pick, IMO. He's #13 on my personal big board at the moment.

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Is it true his wingspan is 7'8"? If so, he will be a defensive monster at the next level.

[Hal14]

Good lord.

Yeah, no way we're getting him unless we trade WAY up.

He's a lottery pick, IMO. He's #13 on my personal big board at the moment.

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Is it true his wingspan is 7'8"? If so, he will be a defensive monster at the next level.

7'7" wingspan I believe. Which is nuts, cause we see how much of a factor rob's 7'6" wingspan is.

And Wemby will have the longest wingspan in the league at 8'0".

Some freaks about to come into the league haha.

[playa-hater]

Good lord.

Yeah, no way we're getting him unless we trade WAY up.

He's a lottery pick, IMO. He's #13 on my personal big board at the moment.

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I did say early on he was my top choice for the middle of the first round should we get there.. So no surprise from me

My other top choice for mid round selection would be .G.G.. After the combine I still believe he is a top five talents in this draft.. And it's still boggles my mind that he's only eighteen years old..

[Hal14]

Good lord.

Yeah, no way we're getting him unless we trade WAY up.

He's a lottery pick, IMO. He's #13 on my personal big board at the moment.

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I did say early on he was my top choice for the middle of the first round should we get there.. So no surprise from me

My other top choice for mid round selection would be .G.G.. After the combine I still believe he is a top five talents in this draft.. And it's still boggles my mind that he's only eighteen years old..

GG would be interesting. I haven't thought about him too much for our pick, because I don't think we'll trade up and if we do, it'd probably only be up a few spots to like 29 or 28 at the highest - and it seems like the lowest GG will fall would be to like 22 or 23.

GG is a lottery talent though, imo. He's #12 on my personal big board. The combination of size, handles, ability to create off the bounce, ability to shoot, quickness, athleticism for a dude who won't even be 19 till December makes for very high upside. It's just very rare to see a 6'9" dude with this type of skill set and athleticism at age 18.

He could potentially be our long term starter at the 4. But it would take time. He's very young and has a lot of refining to do, on both ends of the floor. He probably wouldn't play much on a team like the Celtics for the first year or 2. Fans would have to be patient, but by year 3, watch out.

Still, not getting my hopes up - for reasons stated above..

[playa-hater]

Good lord.

Yeah, no way we're getting him unless we trade WAY up.

He's a lottery pick, IMO. He's #13 on my personal big board at the moment.

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I did say early on he was my top choice for the middle of the first round should we get there.. So no surprise from me

My other top choice for mid round selection would be .G.G.. After the combine I still believe he is a top five talents in this draft.. And it's still boggles my mind that he's only eighteen years old..

GG would be interesting. I haven't thought about him too much for our pick, because I don't think we'll trade up and if we do, it'd probably only be up a few spots to like 29 or 28 at the highest - and it seems like the lowest GG will fall would be to like 22 or 23.

GG is a lottery talent though, imo. He's #12 on my personal big board. The combination of size, handles, ability to create off the bounce, ability to shoot, quickness, athleticism for a dude who won't even be 19 till December makes for very high upside. It's just very rare to see a 6'9" dude with this type of skill set and athleticism at age 18.

He could potentially be our long term starter at the 4. But it would take time. He's very young and has a lot of refining to do, on both ends of the floor. He probably wouldn't play much on a team like the Celtics for the first year or 2. Fans would have to be patient, but by year 3, watch out.

Still, not getting my hopes up - for reasons stated above..

I stand by my belief we/Boston needs to do the homework on every draft prospect.. No one knows if any of our players will be dealt and a draft position becomes available with the trade.

Worst case scenario, it is fun for me to see who a "player" ends up in a few years and if I was right or wrong in my prediction/assessment.

[Hal14]

As I said before, would not hate it if we drafted Jaquez.

The dude can play. He's good pretty good size, underrated athleticism, good passer, good rebounder, decent defender, can handle the ball, create his own shot, better outside shooter than the stats indicate.

Played 4 yrs of college ball at UCLA so is a plug and play type of guy, could contribute for us next season, instead of a development project.

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Clowney looking good:

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Clearly a 1st round talent.

Will likely be gone by our pick, but if he's still there, absolutely a guy you gotta think long and hard about taking.

Keep in mind, he's one of the youngest players in the draft - doesn't turn 19 till July. So you're watching this dude with this type of size, strength, athleticism, mobility and shooting, and he's only 18.

Looks like he's in good shape. And is filling out his frame more - without losing any of his quickness/explosiveness.

[Smart2Nesmith43]

Fun tidbit which is unlikely to matter much since Coulibaly has shot up the mock drafts but Brad Stevens was actually the first NBA exec to come see him play live. Apparently his trip to see Boulogne Levallois play last September wasn't for Wembanyama but to scout Coulibaly instead.

[Hal14]

Haven't looked into this guy much but have heard a few people on Twitter who are high on him.

I'll look into him more, but my initial thought is, we're looking at him as a potential UDFA, rather than a potential guy with the 35th pick.

Only 6'2", but clearly has some talent.

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[playa-hater]

Clowney looking good:

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Clearly a 1st round talent.

Will likely be gone by our pick, but if he's still there, absolutely a guy you gotta think long and hard about taking.

Keep in mind, he's one of the youngest players in the draft - doesn't turn 19 till July. So you're watching this dude with this type of size, strength, athleticism, mobility and shooting, and he's only 18.

Looks like he's in good shape. And is filling out his frame more - without losing any of his quickness/explosiveness.

I am Debating whether I like Noah more or Bobi Klintman. They both seem to have the same size athleticism body weight and shooting potential...

[Hal14]

Isaiah Miranda is very intriguing. 7'1" and only 19 yrs old. Perhaps the most skilled big man in the draft, after Wembanyama.







Here's a recent game he played in:

1:54 good ball handling ability. Handles the rock with 2 defenders all over him, while walking a tight rope along the sideline to avoid stepping out of bounds - which not only shows good handles but also good coordination, especially for a 7-footer
10:30 catches it on the wing. Defender plays up on him so he drives, strong take to the rim, draws foul. Shows good handle and good skill level for a 7-foot teenager here
13:05 good finish. catches it high, keeps it high, finishes high.
14:10 picks up the loose ball at 3/4 court, takes it all the way in, showing good handle in the open floor, good move to get by the defender, get to the rim for strong finish
21:10 nice job getting on the floor to hustle for the loose ball
22:36 love the hustle and mobility here. He flies in from our of nowhere to steal this ball. Then pushes it up himself, instead of waiting to find a guard to pass to. He pushes it all the way up the floor, weaving in and out of 3 defenders then pulls up from the 3 pt line and hits the shot

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[Bill Lumbergh]

Haven't looked into this guy much but have heard a few people on Twitter who are high on him.

I'll look into him more, but my initial thought is, we're looking at him as a potential UDFA, rather than a potential guy with the 35th pick.

Only 6'2", but clearly has some talent.

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He's very talented. He looks too good to go undrafted to me, but who knows. He's pretty small, but he can sure break down a defense, and looks like he can shoot it well, too. Looks like a tough kid. If Brad drafts or acquires a PG you have to think he's trading PP.

I do like Seth Lundy, too, who I know Brad has brought in already.

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[165bows]

Haven't looked into this guy much but have heard a few people on Twitter who are high on him.

I'll look into him more, but my initial thought is, we're looking at him as a potential UDFA, rather than a potential guy with the 35th pick.

Only 6'2", but clearly has some talent.

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Man guy is 23 but does stuff the stat sheet. Little lower volume/less efficient scorer than one might guess from the video but his production in other areas is pretty crazy. Career 2.8%/4.7%(!) steal and block rates. Lots of assists and rebound.

We all know they like their shot blocking guards lol.

[sam_I_am]

Brandin Podziemski, Santa Clara Is a guy I liked this season and he really looked good at combine and posted a 39 inch vertical. He has been rated 40 or so in most mocks but might move up into top 20 now. I thought Amari Bailey of UCLA is another guy who looked good. Reminds me a little bit like Brogdon.

[Hal14]

I think I'm out on Andre Jackson for our pick. The shooting looks pretty bad.

I think he was able to get away with the lack of shooting in college (it's a different game in college - NBA is more geared around 3 pt shooting. also, he was on a VERY good team - so good they won the national title, so they could win without him being able to shoot, and of course, lesser competition in college).

I'd be more optimistic about taking him and just hoping he develops the shooting more in the NBA but:

a) there's a chance (not sure how likely it is but it's a chance) that or shooting guru Ben Sullivan leaves this summer to join Ime's staff in Houston. There's rumors that Ime is trying to poach both Sullivan and Aaron Miles - both of them were hired to the Celtics staff, because of Ime.

b) Jackson is further along in his development - age 21, turns 22 later this year. I'd feel better about the shooting development if he was younger

c) the shooting form is pretty ugly haha

Jackson is a good player. The combination of athleticism, passing and defense is enough to get him drafted. I think he's more of a mid to late 2nd rounder, though. I think we can do better at pick 35.

If you could guarantee me that Sullivan will stay on our staff for the next 3+ years, I *might* consider Jackson at 35, haha.

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Updated list of guys we have worked out (obviously it's not a complete list - just the players where I've seen it posted somewhere online)

Vincent Valerio-Bodon - Wing
Andre Jackson Jr - SG/SF
Jordan Walsh - Wing
Isaiah Miranda - Stretch Big
Coleman Hawkins - Stretch 4 / Small Ball 5
Dillon Jones - Wing
Craig Porter Jr - Guard
Justin Powell - Wing
Landers Nolley - Wing
Oscar Tshiebwe - Big

Honestly, at this point, if we take 1 of the guys listed above at 35, I want it to be Miranda. Take a home run swing. The dude has crazy high upside. But does Brad have the balls to take a guy who literally isn't listed in ANY mock drafts, who only played in a few games this season - vs high schoolers?

[playa-hater]

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Updated list of guys we have worked out (obviously it's not a complete list - just the players where I've seen it posted somewhere online)

Vincent Valerio-Bodon - Wing
Andre Jackson Jr - SG/SF
Jordan Walsh - Wing
Isaiah Miranda - Stretch Big
Coleman Hawkins - Stretch 4 / Small Ball 5
Dillon Jones - Wing
Craig Porter Jr - Guard
Justin Powell - Wing
Landers Nolley - Wing
Oscar Tshiebwe - Big

Honestly, at this point, if we take 1 of the guys listed above at 35, I want it to be Miranda. Take a home run swing. The dude has crazy high upside.

I'm sure there will be more prospects in and I certainly hope that list doubles.. But I am with you on miranda as a home run swing if that's all there is..

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Updated list of guys we have worked out (obviously it's not a complete list - just the players where I've seen it posted somewhere online)

Vincent Valerio-Bodon - Wing
Andre Jackson Jr - SG/SF
Jordan Walsh - Wing
Isaiah Miranda - Stretch Big
Coleman Hawkins - Stretch 4 / Small Ball 5
Dillon Jones - Wing
Craig Porter Jr - Guard
Justin Powell - Wing
Landers Nolley - Wing
Oscar Tshiebwe - Big

Honestly, at this point, if we take 1 of the guys listed above at 35, I want it to be Miranda. Take a home run swing. The dude has crazy high upside.

I'm sure there will be more prospects in and I certainly hope that list doubles.. But I am with you on miranda as a home run swing if that's all there is..

Yup. Still 3 weeks till the draft, so will definitely be quite a few names added to the list. And Brad is stealth - some guys we work out probably won't be publicized anywhere. I don't recall seeing any reports prior to the draft that said we worked out JD or Begarin.

And Miranda may end up returning to college. The deadline for prospects to withdraw from the draft so they can return to college is May 31. So within the next few days, we should hear official word about whether Miranda is staying in the draft or not..