2023 NBA Draft (tonight's discussion on pg 58)

[zzaj]

Let's just wait and see how these guys do in the individual workouts.

Durant supposed had the greatest workout the Blazers (at that time) had ever seen.
Portland like they've had a number of times in their history, got fixated on a specific player.

2012, Dame had a tremendous workout in front of Paul Allen which cemented his spot as
a Blazer.

2013 Portland wanted CJ to tank for picked him over Steven Adams and Giannis

2017, Portland was determined to pick Zach Collins when Bam, Donavan Mitchell worked
out in Portland

2022 Portland took Sharpe

Portland when they've been in the lottery seems to have picked well. NO had the reputation
as an astute talent evaluator but his problem was that he kept trading the FRP in a desperate
try to build around Dame.

I'm looking forward to seeing Scoot and Miller along with the Thompson twins, Walker, and
the others in the Blazer practice facility. We need one or more of these guys to really blow it
up.

I have a feeling Scoot and Miller aren't going to be doing workouts, sadly. There is zero chance of elevating themselves to #1, and a bigger chance that they work themselves out of #2/3...there is too much risk for the very slight reward. I could be wrong though...

[Norm2953]

Most guys will workout however for there is a chance Amen Thompson, who might be the best athlete in the draft could get to 2/3 with a great workout

[PDXKnight]

Most guys will workout however for there is a chance Amen Thompson, who might be the best athlete in the draft could get to 2/3 with a great workout

Let Charlotte take him so we get the perfect player for Portland in Miller

[Norm2953]

Historically, the top guys always worked out unless they are like Victor who is assured to be
picked first. SA will undoubtedly demand he undergo a complete physical and do a medical
history on their new star.

It's a real risk for the Hornets who are dealing with legal issues with Miles Bridges if they pick
Miller, who has been recovering from Mono. They might have preferred to pick third and let
Portland deal with the choice at 2.

[Butter]

The potential Orlando trade bases on 3 for 6/11 + sweetners has some appeal for a team that still needs QUALITY depth. However, two historic trades keep sticking in my head:


Vlade Divac for Kobe (#13)

Martell Webster(#6 & #27) vs (#3) Deron Williams (Chris Paul drafted #4)

Maybe Scoot = Sebastian Telfair and maybe Miller = Harrison Barnes...?

This offseason feels like it's going to define Cronin's time in Portland

[DaVoiceMaster]

Wiretap has a short blurb about Miller not providing much information about the shooting incident. I wonder if he's working himself down in the draft?

[Norm2953]

I've always wondered if the Hornets, who had Miles Bridges issues to deal with last season,
will want another player with another legal issue.

Perhaps as his recovery from Mono comes along, Miller will have a workout that cements his
spot in Charlotte and trumps the off court issues. In some respects, Charlotte has to make the
call the Blazer would have had to make if they were picking second. Portland benefits only
if Miller stays in the top 3 or if Charlotte does what they usually do, picks someone else
instead of Scoot, if they pass on Miller.

[DeBlazerRiddem]

Wiretap has a short blurb about Miller not providing much information about the shooting incident. I wonder if he's working himself down in the draft?

That's the second negative thing Givony has said about him, and we remember that he has a long working relationship with Schmitz who we just hired. If I was feeling conspiratorial I might suggest this is the type of gamesmanship that GMs play when they want a particular player to drop to them. Maybe its a bit too obvious in this case I dunno, but something to think about the source of these negative reports.

[DusterBuster]

If the Heat become the first team to lose up 3-0, I think it ups the chances that that’s where Dame ends up at.

[DusterBuster]

Wiretap has a short blurb about Miller not providing much information about the shooting incident. I wonder if he's working himself down in the draft?

Fwiw, Marang of 1080, who’s pretty connected with NBA circles, has said that everyone he’s talked to has said that teams have all looked into the issue throughly and everything teams have learned has made them more comfortable picking him. That it was just a wrong place wrong time situation and Alabama botched the public nature of it.

Him not providing much information about it is a vary vague statement that could be taken in a number of different ways. Maybe he doesn’t like talking about it because it’s a hard subject for him? Maybe he can’t say some details for legal reasons? It literally could be a million different things.

[DeBlazerRiddem]

Wiretap has a short blurb about Miller not providing much information about the shooting incident. I wonder if he's working himself down in the draft?

Fwiw, Marang of 1080, who’s pretty connected with NBA circles, has said that everyone he’s talked to has said that teams have all looked into the issue throughly and everything teams have learned has made them more comfortable picking him. That it was just a wrong place wrong time situation and Alabama botched the public nature of it.

Him not providing much information about it is a vary vague statement that could be taken in a number of different ways. Maybe he doesn’t like talking about it because it’s a hard subject for him? Maybe he can’t say some details for legal reasons? It literally could be a million different things.

I think it is pretty sure for legal reasons. If rumors are to be believed there is likely a civil suit primed and ready to go once he is drafted and has money to go after and any good lawyer would advise him not to say anything about it since he is not out of the woods yet.


I also don't think there is ever really a good reason to deliver a gun to your buddy while he is out on the town. I'm not sure he is actually liable for anything but just my opinion that nothing good can come from that. But I mean that's a tough one to see for young men who don't ever think something bad will happen,. especially like that. At least in Portland he would be surrounded by good influences.

[Norm2953]

If the Heat become the first team to lose up 3-0, I think it ups the chances that that’s where Dame ends up at.

Miami can for the most part, only offer picks with the expiring contract of Lowry or Herro

It might be possible to spin Herro off to a third team, but with the new CBA, it might be
better to take the expiring contract for Lowry for a season, might be a good mentor for
Scoot, if he's a Blazer.

[Village Idiot]

If the Heat become the first team to lose up 3-0, I think it ups the chances that that’s where Dame ends up at.

Miami can for the most part, only offer picks with the expiring contract of Lowry or Herro

It might be possible to spin Herro off to a third team, but with the new CBA, it might be
better to take the expiring contract for Lowry for a season, might be a good mentor for
Scoot, if he's a Blazer.

They can offer Bam. If I were Cronin I wouldn't consider a deal without him. Bam, Lowry and 18 for Dam e and Nurk

[Butter]

Bam would be a great fit, but feels like a pipe dream.

[KL78192020]

Wiretap has a short blurb about Miller not providing much information about the shooting incident. I wonder if he's working himself down in the draft?

Fwiw, Marang of 1080, who’s pretty connected with NBA circles, has said that everyone he’s talked to has said that teams have all looked into the issue throughly and everything teams have learned has made them more comfortable picking him. That it was just a wrong place wrong time situation and Alabama botched the public nature of it.

Him not providing much information about it is a vary vague statement that could be taken in a number of different ways. Maybe he doesn’t like talking about it because it’s a hard subject for him? Maybe he can’t say some details for legal reasons? It literally could be a million different things.

Pretty sure his lawyers would've advised him to not speak on it publicly, him not talking about it shouldn't be an issue.

[Goldbum]

The more I watch Amen the more I see Scottie Pippen. I am questioning myself because of competition level, broken shot etc... but dang he's quick, Long, bouncy, and makes ridiculous reads. He plays the passing lane and delivers the ball to team mates like he sees the future. That shot though, yikes Ausar has a significantly better shot and form (I've also heard Ausar is the second best ball handler in the draft behind Scoot).

[Pattycakes]

I don’t see Miami trading the very guy (along with Jimmy) that they need to combine with dame to be taken seriously in a trade like that.. I’m more of a fan of us going for picks and future then win now (Bam) anyhow..

[Village Idiot]

I don’t see Miami trading the very guy (along with Jimmy) that they need to combine with dame to be taken seriously in a trade like that.. I’m more of a fan of us going for picks and future then win now (Bam) anyhow..

Bam is 26. He fits either timeline. He is exactly what you want from a modern NBA center. He seems like a cornerstone piece that can be built around.

[Norm2953]

Bam however is Miami's only big and its unlikely they can afford to move him.

More likely for matching salaries, they'd offer Herro or perhaps the expiring contract of Kyle Lowry.

Lowry might be a useful mentor for Scoot if he's the Blazers pick

[Village Idiot]

Bam however is Miami's only big and its unlikely they can afford to move him.

More likely for matching salaries, they'd offer Herro or perhaps the expiring contract of Kyle Lowry.

Lowry might be a useful mentor for Scoot if he's the Blazers pick

If they aren't willing to offer Bam then I wouldn't give them Dame. No reason to do either party favors if I'm Cronin.