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HumbleRen wrote:Results from the most recent playoff game that they played yesterday.
Victor Wembanyama: 19 Points|9 Rebounds|4 Assists|2 Blocks | 8/16 FG|0/1 3PT|3/3 FT in 34 minutes.
Bilal Coulibaly:[b] 5 Points|5 Rebounds|0 Assists|2 Steals|2 Blocks | 2/4 FG|2/4 3PT|0 FT in 30 minutes.[/b]
Mark_83 wrote:HumbleRen wrote:Results from the most recent playoff game that they played yesterday.
Victor Wembanyama: 19 Points|9 Rebounds|4 Assists|2 Blocks | 8/16 FG|0/1 3PT|3/3 FT in 34 minutes.
Bilal Coulibaly:[b] 5 Points|5 Rebounds|0 Assists|2 Steals|2 Blocks | 2/4 FG|2/4 3PT|0 FT in 30 minutes.[/b]
Is this a typo or are 3s not worth the same in France?
OAKLEY_2 wrote:PhilBlackson wrote:Most of the "lure" for me about Bufkin is his shooting because I'm really not that wowed about what he can do off the dribble without it being in a PnR...and with that in mind, if it's mainly shooting as a draw for him, I'm not so sure I'd have him ahead of Jordan Hawkins just because I like the WAY Hawkins gets those 3s more because I'd actually prefer a guy who doesn't need the ball in his hands and to run PnRs to better get his shot off.
Hawkins might be ahead of Bufkin for me...
I like the way Hawkins moves so well off the ball which ofc makes sense since he models his game after Klay & Rip Hamilton. But I just think like Klay playing off Dray, that Hawkins would be a really nice fit with Scottie in the same way and allows Scottie to be more useful with the ball in his hands when he knows there's a moving target (actually noticed some minor chemistry with Yuta from that reason but they didn't get to run actions that often together). I also think that kind of motion shooting shifts a defence so much because everyone knows as Hawkins is running, cutting and zig zagging all over the court, they know they gotta watch him and throws a defence way off when they need to track one guy everywhere he goes while other things are going on in the sets but especially when you have a great passer Scottie that can throw passes to spots almost ahead of time or into small pockets. It's just an enticing combo. Not enough to leap frog my top 3 for our pick but he miiiiight be ahead of Bufkin for me, the more I think about his fit & effect could be on an opposing defence.
I'd love to trade Gary to the Lakers (*ahem they were rumored to be interested in him ALL year) for Beasley + 17 and draft Hawkins, assuming he's still there. If not shout out to Marcus Sasser as back up plan lol but heck who knows maybe Bufkin falls to 17, if Hawkins goes ahead of him.
Lakers won't give up a first in a sign and trade. Still trying to guage if there is a cap space market for Fred consistent with bet on self and if he truly leaves. Bobby Marks says anyone giving Fred 25+ might get value for two of four years. High mileade subcompact with sport package. Of the Raps three best shooters two are UFAs and one is the best trade asset. Guard-point guard is a serious need.
Would OKC deal us Tre Mann, Aleksej Pokusevski, Dario Saric and number 12 for OG? If they had 12 and 13 those picks might be ammunition to move up or stay put and get Wallace/Bufkin or Wallace/Hawkins or Wallace/Howard or... Michigan x 2 Bufkin/Howard. Max Lewis may sneak in there as well.. That would be 5 new roster players. Deletions w/be OG in trade, (retaining Trent allows them to transition from) Fred gone, Thad Young gone, Weiskamp blink gone, and no QO for Banton gone.
Paskal, Poetl, Scottie, Tre Mann, Aleksej Pokusevski Dario Saric, Precious, Cason Wallace, Max Lewis, Chris Boucher, Otto Porter Jr., Jeff Dowtin, Christian Koloko, Gary Trent Jr., Donte diVincenzo, Ron Harper Jr.
One of the coaches like Fernandez, Adelman, Quinn or Darko is getting this job.
*INGRAM*ALLSTARSEASON* Wemby is HIM
Psubs wrote:What about Lakers draft for us at #17, then #17 and DLo S&T for GTJr S&T and Precious Achiuwa?
Fairview4Life wrote:Psubs wrote:What about Lakers draft for us at #17, then #17 and DLo S&T for GTJr S&T and Precious Achiuwa?
That doesn't seem like a good deal for us at all.
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
Fairview4Life wrote:Psubs wrote:What about Lakers draft for us at #17, then #17 and DLo S&T for GTJr S&T and Precious Achiuwa?
That doesn't seem like a good deal for us at all.
LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:Fairview4Life wrote:Psubs wrote:What about Lakers draft for us at #17, then #17 and DLo S&T for GTJr S&T and Precious Achiuwa?
That doesn't seem like a good deal for us at all.
i would probably value Precious way more than the #17 pick tbh. GTJ and DLO are basically tradeoff equals. we get less defense but more offense etc at around $25M per year anyways.
Psubs wrote:LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:Fairview4Life wrote:
That doesn't seem like a good deal for us at all.
i would probably value Precious way more than the #17 pick tbh. GTJ and DLO are basically tradeoff equals. we get less defense but more offense etc at around $25M per year anyways.
What about Lakers draft for us at #17, then #17 and DLo S&T for GTJr S&T and Malachi Flynn?
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:Psubs wrote:LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:
i would probably value Precious way more than the #17 pick tbh. GTJ and DLO are basically tradeoff equals. we get less defense but more offense etc at around $25M per year anyways.
What about Lakers draft for us at #17, then #17 and DLo S&T for GTJr S&T and Malachi Flynn?
sure. i'm okay with it. but i think the Lakers want FVV more than GTJ which makes sense.
Jadoogar wrote:man you guys are way higher on Precious than i am. He had half a season of good three point shooting but otherwise he has very little touch around the rim and no basketball iq. He's a solid defender due to his strength and speed but not really a rim protector. I think he tops out as a Kenneth Faried type and those players are increasingly getting phased out of most rotations, especially in the playoffs.
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:Jadoogar wrote:man you guys are way higher on Precious than i am. He had half a season of good three point shooting but otherwise he has very little touch around the rim and no basketball iq. He's a solid defender due to his strength and speed but not really a rim protector. I think he tops out as a Kenneth Faried type and those players are increasingly getting phased out of most rotations, especially in the playoffs.
Precious is a 23yo big man, who has some shooting stroke. a big man who is developing a jumper and has shown he can shoot the basketball is a worthwhile project. he isn't starting for the Raptors but is a good bench piece to have.
like who are we trading Precious for? a more unknown project at #17? lol that doesn't make sense either.
Psubs wrote:LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:Psubs wrote:
What about Lakers draft for us at #17, then #17 and DLo S&T for GTJr S&T and Malachi Flynn?
sure. i'm okay with it. but i think the Lakers want FVV more than GTJ which makes sense.
#17 and DLo for FVV is a decent return.
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
Jadoogar wrote:LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:Jadoogar wrote:man you guys are way higher on Precious than i am. He had half a season of good three point shooting but otherwise he has very little touch around the rim and no basketball iq. He's a solid defender due to his strength and speed but not really a rim protector. I think he tops out as a Kenneth Faried type and those players are increasingly getting phased out of most rotations, especially in the playoffs.
Precious is a 23yo big man, who has some shooting stroke. a big man who is developing a jumper and has shown he can shoot the basketball is a worthwhile project. he isn't starting for the Raptors but is a good bench piece to have.
like who are we trading Precious for? a more unknown project at #17? lol that doesn't make sense either.
obviously depends on who's available. Wouldn't you take a chance on a project that fits better with the roster rather an other 6'9 forward that doesn't have guard or center skills?
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
Jadoogar wrote:man you guys are way higher on Precious than i am. He had half a season of good three point shooting but otherwise he has very little touch around the rim and no basketball iq. He's a solid defender due to his strength and speed but not really a rim protector. I think he tops out as a Kenneth Faried type and those players are increasingly getting phased out of most rotations, especially in the playoffs.
