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2023 Draft Discussion Part 5

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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#1081 » by HumbleRen » Sat May 27, 2023 12:12 am

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LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:nbadraft has us selecting Cason Wallace.

Marcus Smart/ IQ comparisons. so a defense first guard. but shooting is probably going to be a development. but good size. 6'4" for a PG/ combo guard. good rebounder.

pretty safe pick at #13.

i don't think he lasts until 13.


Who takes him before us, I'm almost certain the top 10 is locked in


I don't see OKC or Magic going for him. It would either be Utah at 9 or Wizards at 8.

Most likely Wizards considering they have no point guard.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#1082 » by Syd-TK3 » Sat May 27, 2023 12:24 am

HumbleRen wrote:
DreamTeam09 wrote:
tdotrep2 wrote:i don't think he lasts until 13.


Who takes him before us, I'm almost certain the top 10 is locked in


I don't see OKC or Magic going for him. It would either be Utah at 9 or Wizards at 8.

Most likely Wizards considering they have no point guard.

Beal coached Nick Smith on his aau team for what it's worth, so not a completely crazy scenario
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#1083 » by niQ » Sat May 27, 2023 12:43 am

HumbleRen wrote:Woj and Givony just eviscerated GG Jackson on their podcast lol.

His value is in the dumps.


What they say? No defense, maturity issues?
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Post#1084 » by BoyzNTheHood » Sat May 27, 2023 12:43 am

HumbleRen wrote:Woj and Givony just eviscerated GG Jackson on their podcast lol.

His value is in the dumps.

He seems like a good kid. All of these grown men talking smack about an 18 year old kid need to do some soul searching. I really hope he proves them wrong.
deeps6x wrote:I guarantee you that (Jaylen) Brown and (Kris) Dunn are drafted OUT of the top 5.
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Post#1085 » by Tofubeque » Sat May 27, 2023 1:20 am

I remember the MavsDraft guy going to the combine and saying one prospect gave such self-centered interviews it probably tanked his stock. Like talking about himself even when asked about his teammates lol. Maybe that was GG
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#1086 » by WuTang_CMB » Sat May 27, 2023 1:27 am

Read on Twitter
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Too bad he was injured and had a crap yearp
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Post#1087 » by BoyzNTheHood » Sat May 27, 2023 1:32 am

WuTang_OG wrote:
Read on Twitter
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Too bad he was injured and had a crap yearp

Righty Brandon Jennings
deeps6x wrote:I guarantee you that (Jaylen) Brown and (Kris) Dunn are drafted OUT of the top 5.
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Post#1088 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Sat May 27, 2023 1:34 am

BoyzNTheHood wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:Woj and Givony just eviscerated GG Jackson on their podcast lol.

His value is in the dumps.

He seems like a good kid. All of these grown men talking smack about an 18 year old kid need to do some soul searching. I really hope he proves them wrong.


If I were a teenager playing with GG on my team I'd hate him too.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#1089 » by Mark_83 » Sat May 27, 2023 1:39 am

BoyzNTheHood wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:Woj and Givony just eviscerated GG Jackson on their podcast lol.

His value is in the dumps.

He seems like a good kid. All of these grown men talking smack about an 18 year old kid need to do some soul searching. I really hope he proves them wrong.

How would we even know? At least Woj and Giv would be in a position to have some intel, if not first hand knowledge, about it. Anything else is just speculation.
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Post#1090 » by BoyzNTheHood » Sat May 27, 2023 1:40 am

Mark_83 wrote:
BoyzNTheHood wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:Woj and Givony just eviscerated GG Jackson on their podcast lol.

His value is in the dumps.

He seems like a good kid. All of these grown men talking smack about an 18 year old kid need to do some soul searching. I really hope he proves them wrong.

How would we even know? At least Woj and Giv would be in a position to have some intel, if not first hand knowledge, about it. Anything else is just speculation.

Judging by how he behaves during interviews.
deeps6x wrote:I guarantee you that (Jaylen) Brown and (Kris) Dunn are drafted OUT of the top 5.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#1091 » by C_Money » Sat May 27, 2023 1:40 am

There’s so many scoring guards in our range. Find out who the best one is and take him. I think we’re all sick of the long armed defensive non-shooter types.
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Post#1092 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Sat May 27, 2023 1:48 am

C_Money wrote:There’s so many scoring guards in our range. Find out who the best one is and take him. I think we’re all sick of the long armed defensive non-shooter types.


I don't know seems like at least half the people on here want someone with a 7ft or greater wingspan. Masai has no idea what he's doing or what he wants to do, Windhorst said that's the vibe other execs are getting from the Raps. Masai STILL evaluating. I can only imagine the conversations between Masai and Bobby where one plays devil's advocate when they talk about blowing the entire thing up.
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Post#1093 » by Mark_83 » Sat May 27, 2023 1:58 am

BoyzNTheHood wrote:
Mark_83 wrote:
BoyzNTheHood wrote:He seems like a good kid. All of these grown men talking smack about an 18 year old kid need to do some soul searching. I really hope he proves them wrong.

How would we even know? At least Woj and Giv would be in a position to have some intel, if not first hand knowledge, about it. Anything else is just speculation.

Judging by how he behaves during interviews.

That might be worth something in the absence of other, contradicting information. But as it stands, TV interviews are not likely to reveal much about a person's character, just their personality or coaching.

This, on the other (complaining on social media about touches), suggests a lack of professionalism.

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Post#1094 » by BoyzNTheHood » Sat May 27, 2023 2:11 am

Mark_83 wrote:
BoyzNTheHood wrote:
Mark_83 wrote:How would we even know? At least Woj and Giv would be in a position to have some intel, if not first hand knowledge, about it. Anything else is just speculation.

Judging by how he behaves during interviews.

That might be worth something in the absence of other, contradicting information. But as it stands, TV interviews are not likely to reveal much about a person's character, just their personality or coaching.

This, on the other (complaining on social media about touches), suggests a lack of professionalism.


That’s fair, but if I expected an 18 year old to act as a full grown adult I’d probably be expecting too much. Of course there are ones who are amazingly mature, but it should also be expected that there will be ones who aren’t so mature. In his interviews he comes off with a boyish enthusiasm.
deeps6x wrote:I guarantee you that (Jaylen) Brown and (Kris) Dunn are drafted OUT of the top 5.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#1095 » by PhilBlackson » Sat May 27, 2023 2:11 am

I'm sorry to say it, I respect the hell outta his defence etc, I always think of him as a very honorable mention off of my draft list but truth be told I really hope we DON'T draft Cason Wallace.

I get it, I get it...he'll be a helluva solid player, almost without doubt a rotation player to likely starter BUT this team just flat out needs SOMETHING ELSE, they do not need another "defensive minded" prospect, they need the OPPOSITE, we need a baller that can get buckets (if we're not going to roll the dice on upside as I'd hope with either of Bilal or Sidy).

Everyone projects him to be another Marcus Smart who's wonderful and everything but if you inserted the actual Marcus Smart into our starting line up, we still aren't doing sh*t and we're still going to have the same damn struggles come Playoff time when no one but Pascal can get there own bucket, so please God no to Wallace especially when he's ALREADY dealing with back issues, no thanks. I'd absolutely LOVE him with a second pick but not with what might be our only pick. If we're going guard, I'll take ANY of George, Bufkin or Hawkins over him. All them play solid enough defence with much better potential offensively.

I left out Nick Smith Jr, who I gotta laugh that Givony thinks we'd take but because he's the last person I can see us drafting...I almost have to give it a chance lol because it seems like it''s always the last person you expect us to take that we do take lol. But I've never been on the NS Jr bandwagon even before college started. He just reminds me of Bones Hyland, Tyler Herro, Poole type of player. The several other guards I already listed have fairly similar potential offensively without being a pylon like NS Jr or injury concerns but who the heck knows maybe he has something I'm not seeing, I'm just not really buying what some analysts are selling about him.
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Post#1096 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Sat May 27, 2023 2:18 am

"Why don't I have the ball in my hands in crunchtime?"

Because you're a 38% shooter and the defense knows 100% that you aren't passing the ball.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#1097 » by OAKLEY_2 » Sat May 27, 2023 2:20 am

PhilBlackson wrote:I'm sorry to say it, I respect the hell outta his defence etc, I always think of him as a very honorable mention off of my draft list but truth be told I really hope we DON'T draft Cason Wallace.

I get it, I get it...he'll be a helluva solid player, almost without doubt a rotation player to likely starter BUT this team just flat out needs SOMETHING ELSE, they do not need another "defensive minded" prospect, they need the OPPOSITE, we need a baller that can get buckets (if we're not going to roll the dice on upside as I'd hope with either of Bilal or Sidy).

Everyone projects him to be another Marcus Smart who's wonderful and everything but if you inserted the actual Marcus Smart into our starting line up, we still aren't doing sh*t and we're still going to have the same damn struggles come Playoff time when no one but Pascal can get there own bucket, so please God no to Wallace especially when he's ALREADY dealing with back issues, no thanks. I'd absolutely LOVE him with a second pick but not with what might be our only pick. If we're going guard, I'll take ANY of George, Bufkin or Hawkins over him. All them play solid enough defence with much better potential offensively.

I left out Nick Smith Jr, who I gotta laugh that Givony thinks we'd take but because he's the last person I can see us drafting...I almost have to give it a chance lol because it seems like it''s always the last person you expect us to take that we do take lol. But I've never been on the NS Jr bandwagon even before college started. He just reminds me of Bones Hyland, Tyler Herro, Poole type of player. The several other guards I already listed have fairly similar potential offensively without being a pylon like NS Jr or injury concerns but who the heck knows maybe he has something I'm not seeing, I'm just not really buying what some analysts are selling about him.


He who have long argument have weak argument. When rebuilding on the fly if Cason Wallace is there we'd crazy not to take him. Kid is 19 with virtually no flaws in his game. Hitting the we need that something extra button is pie in the sky crap. At this position if he is consensus BPA the war room will know what to do.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#1098 » by PhilBlackson » Sat May 27, 2023 2:26 am

OAKLEY_2 wrote:
PhilBlackson wrote:I'm sorry to say it, I respect the hell outta his defence etc, I always think of him as a very honorable mention off of my draft list but truth be told I really hope we DON'T draft Cason Wallace.

I get it, I get it...he'll be a helluva solid player, almost without doubt a rotation player to likely starter BUT this team just flat out needs SOMETHING ELSE, they do not need another "defensive minded" prospect, they need the OPPOSITE, we need a baller that can get buckets (if we're not going to roll the dice on upside as I'd hope with either of Bilal or Sidy).

Everyone projects him to be another Marcus Smart who's wonderful and everything but if you inserted the actual Marcus Smart into our starting line up, we still aren't doing sh*t and we're still going to have the same damn struggles come Playoff time when no one but Pascal can get there own bucket, so please God no to Wallace especially when he's ALREADY dealing with back issues, no thanks. I'd absolutely LOVE him with a second pick but not with what might be our only pick. If we're going guard, I'll take ANY of George, Bufkin or Hawkins over him. All them play solid enough defence with much better potential offensively.

I left out Nick Smith Jr, who I gotta laugh that Givony thinks we'd take but because he's the last person I can see us drafting...I almost have to give it a chance lol because it seems like it''s always the last person you expect us to take that we do take lol. But I've never been on the NS Jr bandwagon even before college started. He just reminds me of Bones Hyland, Tyler Herro, Poole type of player. The several other guards I already listed have fairly similar potential offensively without being a pylon like NS Jr or injury concerns but who the heck knows maybe he has something I'm not seeing, I'm just not really buying what some analysts are selling about him.


He who have long argument have weak argument. When rebuilding on the fly if Cason Wallace is there we'd crazy not to take him. Kid is 19 with virtually no flaws in his game. Hitting the we need that something extra button is pie in the sky crap. At this position if he is consensus BPA the war room will know what to do.


Yeah your opinion means nothing to me :lol: especially when you say something as ridiculous as he has "no flaws in his game" when clearly he's quite limited offensively aside from floaters and open 3s but keep recommending various horrible trades with a bunch of OKC's garbage on the bench, it fits with the usual bland crap you suggest.
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Post#1099 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Sat May 27, 2023 2:27 am

OAKLEY_2 wrote:He who have long argument have weak argument. When rebuilding on the fly if Cason Wallace is there we'd crazy not to take him. Kid is 19 with virtually no flaws in his game. Hitting the we need that something extra button is pie in the sky crap. At this position if he is consensus BPA the war room will know what to do.


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Post#1100 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Sat May 27, 2023 2:29 am

Cason Wallace projects to be a vastly superior shooter and scorer than Marcus Smart.

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