Woj - Bucks choose Griffin/add Stotts/Prunty

[Sigra]

I dont understand how anyone can be so negative about rookie coach. All great coaches started like rookie coaches. Phil Jackson was great from start. Didnt need time to learn. Steve Kerr was great from start. Didnt need time to learn. With rookie coach we can only have "wait and see" approuch IMO.

Good luck coach.

[Prez]

Griffin was one of the key developmental coaches for Jimmy when he started with the Bulls. Excited to see MarJon Leonard next year.

[blazza18]

Thought there was no real obvious standout candidate this offseason so hiring an assistant is whatever. Hopefully he knows what’s he’s doing and makes us better.

Need to know more about why he was Giannis’ guy. Not really a fan of him being so heavily involved.

I really hope Horst and the front office don’t think think this is all we need either. The entire roster needs improvement.

[TroyD92]

Giannis picking the coach does not make me very excited, but I do like a lot of what i've seen about him(outside of obvious).

If I was in charge of hiring the coach, I would ask Giannis who is first choice would be, so I would know which name to scratch off the list first.

Why

He’s a big fan of a certain Dallas Mavericks coach

[Iheartfootball]

Horst’s ride or die. Please don’t die.

[rilamann]

Giannis picking the coach does not make me very excited, but I do like a lot of what i've seen about him(outside of obvious).

If I was in charge of hiring the coach, I would ask Giannis who is first choice would be, so I would know which name to scratch off the list first.

Why

Because he has the BBIQ of an amoeba and would have lobbied for Jason Kidd if Kidd was available.

I sure as hell wouldn't be letting a player in general dictate who I hired as head coach or make any personnel or roster decisions.

We'll see.

[JayMKE]

It is what it is but I'll believe in the success when I see it, being upset doesn't change anything but I can't psyop myself into thinking this was the plan all along. Failure at this point should result in Horst being fired immediately, he should have been fired instead of letting him hire another coach. Not a basketball mind. Dodging all the hanger-on frauds when you have an all-time player like Giannis is like walking thru a minefield, we saw what a little bit of success did the FO in Green Bay. I didn't feel like our prayer circle being too loose was the reason we haven't won more championships, its having dolts that "trust the plan" and never deviating from it but some people think that is leadership. Maybe you can learn "leadership" in a class, better hope so. This is a low IQ team and now they picked their own coach, I'm sure that will work out. Now trade Khris and Jrue so we actually have a core that can win something because it aint happening as is.

[rilamann]

If I was in charge of hiring the coach, I would ask Giannis who is first choice would be, so I would know which name to scratch off the list first.

Why

He’s a big fan of a certain Dallas Mavericks coach

Yeah, the last guy I would be taking input from when hiring a coach is a guy who lobbied for Jason Kidd.

This is a **** show.

[Prez]

Griffin made the final 3 before he met with Giannis. Do you guys think Giannis just randomly picked Griffin as a candidate or something? The organization clearly was high on him and was already seriously considering him. And Giannis really liking him was one of likely many factors. There’s nothing wrong with valuing the input of your generational superstar lmao.

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[TroyD92]

Griffin made the final 3 before he met with Giannis. Do you guys think Giannis just randomly picked Griffin as a candidate or something? The organization clearly was high on him and was already seriously considering him. And Giannis really liking him was one of likely many factors. There’s nothing wrong with valuing the input of your generational superstar lmao.

Sure, but the organization isn't bulletproof by any means.

[Sigra]

I was never big fan of Giannis game (except his performance in finals offcourse). Most greek members probably have me on ignore LoL.

But cmon guys hahaha. Offcouse that Giannis must approve this. His basketball IQ has nothing to do with that lol

[Prez]

Griffin made the final 3 before he met with Giannis. Do you guys think Giannis just randomly picked Griffin as a candidate or something? The organization clearly was high on him and was already seriously considering him. And Giannis really liking him was one of likely many factors. There’s nothing wrong with valuing the input of your generational superstar lmao.

Sure, but the organization isn't bulletproof by any means.

It isn’t, I’m just pushing back on this skepticism about Griffin solely bc of “Giannis picked him and Giannis is a dummy”. It’s just lazy as hell to me and frankly unfair to Griffin as a guy who’s been a really highly regarded assistant coach for years, a lead assistant on a championship team, etc.

If Griffin sucks I’ll be right there with anyone in ripping on him like I did with Kidd, Bud, etc. Just find some of the negativity to be bizarre and over the top.

[LUKE23]

Offensive schematics is my biggest question mark - but that will also largely be a big factor in the assistant coaches as well. Defense and relating to the players I feel good about this hire, but I will need to see the backgrounds of the assistants before I can calm my concerns about the offense. The assistant coach group and what we do at PG are two of the remaining big moves.

[TroyD92]

Griffin made the final 3 before he met with Giannis. Do you guys think Giannis just randomly picked Griffin as a candidate or something? The organization clearly was high on him and was already seriously considering him. And Giannis really liking him was one of likely many factors. There’s nothing wrong with valuing the input of your generational superstar lmao.

Sure, but the organization isn't bulletproof by any means.

It isn’t, I’m just pushing back on this skepticism about Griffin solely bc of “Giannis picked him and Giannis is a dummy”. It’s just lazy as hell to me and frankly unfair to Griffin as a guy who’s been a really highly regarded assistant coach for years, a lead assistant on a championship team, etc.

I agree with that. To me Giannis past preference for one Jason Kidd makes me less excited about his input. Relatively minor in the long list of things though.

[Iheartfootball]

In all honesty, none of us here know ****. Whatever, I think we’ll be fine and I’m going to let my optimistic nature take over and enjoy seeing a fresh face that seems to be well liked.

What kind of hot take snap judgement is that? Sheesh

I respect the optimistic approach and I wish I had more if it in me. Optimists live longer. But if you don’t have that battle between the two (or at least a few questions) then I don’t think you’re fully human or you’re lying to yourself.

That said, I’m gonna let this decision breathe a bit. No need to get all riled up over something I have no idea the outcome and have zero control over.

[JayMKE]

Griffin made the final 3 before he met with Giannis. Do you guys think Giannis just randomly picked Griffin as a candidate or something? The organization clearly was high on him and was already seriously considering him. And Giannis really liking him was one of likely many factors. There’s nothing wrong with valuing the input of your generational superstar lmao.

Look at the other names that were mentioned; Mark Jackson, Doc Rivers, Monty Williams. I think the writing is on the wall the kind of "coach" Giannis likes, he was a fan Jason Kidd as we know too. That's bothersome, it wasn't Budenholzer's lack of presence in the huddle being the problem but the trust the plan mindset with dumb system. I'm not believing in this team being able to overcome shortcomings right now, I think we fall flat on our face so hopefully Giannis really really likes Griffin enough to sign that extension because what the hell was the point otherwise?

[MickeyDavis]

Giannis had nothing to do with hiring Kidd. When Kidd was fired Giannis initially showed loyalty to him (he came an all-star under Kidd). BFD.

[rilamann]

This is a coaching hire that a rebuilding team makes who doesn't want to spend big $$$ money on a coach. You take a chance and maybe the guy works out, maybe he don't.

When you have arguably the best player in the league who will be turning 29 this season, you have to hire a proven head coach. This isn't the time to be taking a chance on a guy like Griffin.

The incompetence by the Bucks just continues to amaze me.

[Prez]

Griffin made the final 3 before he met with Giannis. Do you guys think Giannis just randomly picked Griffin as a candidate or something? The organization clearly was high on him and was already seriously considering him. And Giannis really liking him was one of likely many factors. There’s nothing wrong with valuing the input of your generational superstar lmao.

Look at the other names that were mentioned; Mark Jackson, Doc Rivers, Monty Williams. I think the writing is on the wall the kind of "coach" Giannis likes, he was a fan Jason Kidd as we know too. That's bothersome, it wasn't Budenholzer's lack of presence in the huddle being the problem but the trust the plan mindset with dumb system. I'm not believing in this team being able to overcome shortcomings right now, I think we fall flat on our face so hopefully Giannis really really likes Griffin enough to sign that extension because what the hell was the point otherwise?

Do we know for a fact that the Bucks interviewing those guys was because of Giannis, and not just Horst/the organization doing agent favors (which happens all the time)? Because the fact that none of those guys even made the final 3 makes me feel like it was more of the latter.

Maybe we fall flat on our face. Or maybe Griffin is a stud HC and is the exact voice the locker room needs. I’m gonna wait and see.