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Re: 2023 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#281 » by AingesBurner » Sun May 21, 2023 4:24 pm

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Inigo Montoya wrote:^^It would have been a much better tweet if she said that the Jazz are interested in Dick.

As opposed to being enomored by Dick. Or fancing Dick. Or that Ainge believes the organization needs Dick.


The Jazz are excited for some Dick.
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#282 » by Inigo Montoya » Sun May 21, 2023 5:10 pm

AingesBurner wrote:
pickIBL wrote:
Inigo Montoya wrote:^^It would have been a much better tweet if she said that the Jazz are interested in Dick.

As opposed to being enomored by Dick. Or fancing Dick. Or that Ainge believes the organization needs Dick.


The Jazz are excited for some Dick.

If the Jazz draft Gradey Dick it's going to be juvenile puns for years. The material is endless.
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#283 » by AingesBurner » Sun May 21, 2023 8:00 pm

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AingesBurner wrote:
pickIBL wrote:As opposed to being enomored by Dick. Or fancing Dick. Or that Ainge believes the organization needs Dick.


The Jazz are excited for some Dick.

If the Jazz draft Gradey Dick it's going to be juvenile puns for years. The material is endless.


I am just ready to watch Sexton Dick on the big screen.
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#284 » by Catchall » Sun May 21, 2023 8:14 pm

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Catchall wrote:David Locke sure seems to be conditioning his listeners to expect that the Jazz will be deciding between Cason Wallace and Ausar Thompson at #9. He seems to think Ausar will slip a bit.

Expected Top 15: 1. SAS - Wembanyama, 2. CHA - Henderson, 3. POR - Miller, 4. HOU - Amen, 5. DET - Whitmore, 6. ORL - Hendricks, 7. IND - Walker, 8. WAS - Black, 9. UTA - Wallace, 10. DAL (trade) - Ausar, 11. ORL - Dick, 12. OKC - George, 13. TOR - Bufkin, 14. NOL - Lively, 15. ATL - Klintman, 16. UTA - Jackson, Whitehead or Bilal


Utah will take Ausar or trade up for Black.


Go to the 14:00 mark and hear Locke throw shade at Anthony Black for 10 minutes straight, then tell me the Jazz are going to draft Black.

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Re: 2023 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#285 » by Catchall » Sun May 21, 2023 8:15 pm

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Inigo Montoya wrote:
AingesBurner wrote:
The Jazz are excited for some Dick.

If the Jazz draft Gradey Dick it's going to be juvenile puns for years. The material is endless.


I am just ready to watch Sexton Dick on the big screen.


Apparently, Orlando is already expecting their backcourt to be Suggs-Dick, so...
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#286 » by Inigo Montoya » Sun May 21, 2023 8:34 pm

Catchall wrote:
AingesBurner wrote:
Inigo Montoya wrote:If the Jazz draft Gradey Dick it's going to be juvenile puns for years. The material is endless.


I am just ready to watch Sexton Dick on the big screen.


Apparently, Orlando is already expecting their backcourt to be Suggs-Dick, so...

:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post#287 » by Skybox » Sun May 28, 2023 1:59 pm

If UTA wanted to move up...

ORL sends #6 and DEN 25 frp (top 5 protected) for #9 and #16

you still have #28 and you can take a bigger swing.
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Post#288 » by Inigo Montoya » Sun May 28, 2023 2:14 pm

Skybox wrote:If UTA wanted to move up...

ORL sends #6 and DEN 25 frp (top 5 protected) for #9 and #16

you still have #28 and you can take a bigger swing.

Seems fair. I'd probably do it if the player I really wanted was still there at #6.
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#289 » by Skybox » Sun May 28, 2023 2:26 pm

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Skybox wrote:If UTA wanted to move up...

ORL sends #6 and DEN 25 frp (top 5 protected) for #9 and #16

you still have #28 and you can take a bigger swing.

Seems fair. I'd probably do it if the player I really wanted was still there at #6.


I figured you'd want that big, crazy upside guard/wing (Thompsons, Black, Whitmore...) to grow with Kessler and Lauri. I feel like ORL needs something a little less glamorous, like Agbaji and Hawkins types, to support Paolo and FVV.

I had a bigger version on ORL board...
ORL sends Fultz, Okeke, #6, #36, DEN 25 frp
UTA sends Agbaji, Olynk, #9, #16
(I think it helps both, but Fultz is minimally-guaranteed and expiring if you just want cap space, but he could be PG of the future)
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Post#290 » by Inigo Montoya » Sun May 28, 2023 2:33 pm

Skybox wrote:I figured you'd want that big, crazy upside guard/wing (Thompsons, Black, Whitmore...) to grow with Kessler and Lauri. I feel like ORL needs something a little less glamorous, like Agbaji and Hawkins types, to support Paolo and FVV.

I had a bigger version on ORL board...
ORL sends Fultz, Okeke, #6, #36, DEN 25 frp
UTA sends Agbaji, Olynk, #9, #16
(I think it helps both, but Fultz is minimally-guaranteed and expiring if you just want cap space, but he could be PG of the future)


Personally, I don't want Black, and not enamored with either of the Thompsons. I really like Whitmore though, but this trade is not as appealing as the previous one. If Fultz isn't your PG of the future, he probably won't be ours either. I liked it better when it was just picks, but if we go along these lines, if we change either Fultz or Okeke with Suggs it may be more interesting.

Sure, it eliminates the possibility of a Suggs-Dick lineup but we all have to make sacrifices.
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Post#291 » by Skybox » Sun May 28, 2023 4:39 pm

Inigo Montoya wrote:
Skybox wrote:I figured you'd want that big, crazy upside guard/wing (Thompsons, Black, Whitmore...) to grow with Kessler and Lauri. I feel like ORL needs something a little less glamorous, like Agbaji and Hawkins types, to support Paolo and FVV.

I had a bigger version on ORL board...
ORL sends Fultz, Okeke, #6, #36, DEN 25 frp
UTA sends Agbaji, Olynk, #9, #16
(I think it helps both, but Fultz is minimally-guaranteed and expiring if you just want cap space, but he could be PG of the future)


Personally, I don't want Black, and not enamored with either of the Thompsons. I really like Whitmore though, but this trade is not as appealing as the previous one. If Fultz isn't your PG of the future, he probably won't be ours either. I liked it better when it was just picks, but if we go along these lines, if we change either Fultz or Okeke with Suggs it may be more interesting.

Sure, it eliminates the possibility of a Suggs-Dick lineup but we all have to make sacrifices.


My thoughts on Fultz...

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Post#292 » by Catchall » Mon May 29, 2023 7:51 pm

Skybox wrote:If UTA wanted to move up...

ORL sends #6 and DEN 25 frp (top 5 protected) for #9 and #16

you still have #28 and you can take a bigger swing.


I think if the Jazz move up, it will be to #4 or #5 and the target will be Cam Whitmore. He's the epitome of the Danny Ainge-type wing. I'm guessing a deal would involve #9 and Ochai Agbaji, likely with a future pick added.

If the Jazz are confident that Hendricks and Black will be taken in the top 8, that means one of Jarace Walker or Ausar Thompson will slip to 9, and the Jazz would likely take that player. Else, they'd take Cason Wallace or Keyonte George, imo.

I think the Jazz see a lot of value in #16 and would keep that pick to take Bufkin, Coulibaly or Hood-Schifino. Or maybe they'd use it in another trade.
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#293 » by Catchall » Mon May 29, 2023 7:57 pm

Skybox wrote:
Inigo Montoya wrote:
Skybox wrote:If UTA wanted to move up...

ORL sends #6 and DEN 25 frp (top 5 protected) for #9 and #16

you still have #28 and you can take a bigger swing.

Seems fair. I'd probably do it if the player I really wanted was still there at #6.


I had a bigger version on ORL board...
ORL sends Fultz, Okeke, #6, #36, DEN 25 frp
UTA sends Agbaji, Olynk, #9, #16
(I think it helps both, but Fultz is minimally-guaranteed and expiring if you just want cap space, but he could be PG of the future)


I don't think the Jazz would entertain that trade. I don't think they're very interested in Fultz or Okeke and would value their own players more highly.
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Post#294 » by Hoops Addict » Tue May 30, 2023 1:48 am

https://www.slcdunk.com/2023/5/25/23737315/2023-slc-dunk-nba-mock-draft-2-0

San Antonio Spurs - Victor Wembanyama
Charlotte Hornets - Scoot Henderson
Portland Trail Blazers - Brandon Miller
Houston Rockets - Amen Thompson
Detroit Pistons - Cam Whitmore
Orlando Magic - Jarace Walker
Indiana Pacers - Taylor Hendricks
Washington Wizards - Anthony Black
Utah Jazz - Ausar Thompson
Dallas Mavericks - Cason Wallace
Orlando Magic - Gradey Dick
Oklahoma City Thunder - GG Jackson
Toronto Raptors - Kobe Bufkin
New Orleans Pelicans - Jalen Hood-Schifino
Atlanta Hawks - Keyonte George
Utah Jazz - Nick Smith Jr.
Los Angeles Lakers - Leonard Miller
Miami Heat - Dereck Lively II
Golden State Warriors - Kris Murray
Houston Rockets - Bilal Coulibaly
Brooklyn Nets - Dariq Whitehead
Brooklyn Nets - Brice Sensabaugh
Portland Trail Blazers - Jordan Hawkins
Sacramento Kings - Rayan Rupert
Memphis Grizzlies - Maxwell Lewis
Indiana Pacers - Jett Howard
Charlotte Hornets - Cidy Cissoko
Utah Jazz - Colby Jones
Indiana Pacers - Trayce Jackson Davis
Los Angeles Clippers Andrew Jackson Jr
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Post#295 » by babyjax13 » Tue May 30, 2023 6:55 am

I kind of like the idea of Kobe Brown at 28. Really fantastic passer and I think can hit the corner three reliably. Only concern is perimeter defense. Think: if Eric Paschall passed better than Kyle Anderson.

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Post#296 » by mg » Tue May 30, 2023 1:32 pm

Catchall wrote:
Skybox wrote:If UTA wanted to move up...

ORL sends #6 and DEN 25 frp (top 5 protected) for #9 and #16

you still have #28 and you can take a bigger swing.


I think if the Jazz move up, it will be to #4 or #5 and the target will be Cam Whitmore. He's the epitome of the Danny Ainge-type wing. I'm guessing a deal would involve #9 and Ochai Agbaji, likely with a future pick added.

If the Jazz are confident that Hendricks and Black will be taken in the top 8, that means one of Jarace Walker or Ausar Thompson will slip to 9, and the Jazz would likely take that player. Else, they'd take Cason Wallace or Keyonte George, imo.

I think the Jazz see a lot of value in #16 and would keep that pick to take Bufkin, Coulibaly or Hood-Schifino. Or maybe they'd use it in another trade.


Having Ausur Thompson slip to 9 would be sweet but somehow doubt that actually happens in reality. It almost seems he's getting more buzz than his brother at this point since he's the better shooter. In total agreement that Whitmore is "the epitome" of a Danny Ainge type wing. I know the org has been touting Agbaji but I'm a little less bullish on him as the eventual longterm starting SG. I wouldn't be opposed if Ainge dealt Ochai to move up but think they could then draft someone such as Jett at 16 to replace his shooting. Personally I'm not in love with any of the PG's. Jazz have enough future draft capital in the warchest to trade for a youngish vet at that position too.
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Post#297 » by SoCalJazzFan » Thu Jun 1, 2023 8:50 pm

The latest Ringer Big Board has Cam Whitmore #9, which I know would please many Jazz fans ( https://nbadraft.theringer.com/ )

For those in love with him as a prospect, please explain to me how his strengths overcome his utter lack of court vision/passing/playmaking.

Edit: All of Leonard Miller, GG Jackson, and Bilal C would be available on their Big Board, which would make me happy if the Jazz selected a PG with #9.
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Post#298 » by Catchall » Thu Jun 1, 2023 8:56 pm

Cam Whitmore coming in to workout. Maybe 9 + 16 gets up to 6 to draft him?

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Post#299 » by Inigo Montoya » Thu Jun 1, 2023 9:13 pm

SoCalJazzFan wrote:The latest Ringer Big Board has Cam Whitmore #9, which I know would please many Jazz fans ( https://nbadraft.theringer.com/ )

For those in love with him as a prospect, please explain to me how his strengths overcome his utter lack of court vision/passing/playmaking.

Edit: All of Leonard Miller, GG Jackson, and Bilal C would be available on their Big Board, which would make me happy if the Jazz selected a PG with #9.

Yes, Whitmore at #9 will please me greatly. He's only 18 and in fact, if he was two and a half weeks older he would have been too young to be eligible to enter the draft.

No prospect is perfect but if the main criticism about him is lack of court vision/passing/playmaking, I'd say he's a damn good prospect. I'd imagine you can train and develop an 18 year old with all the physical and athletic tools and with plenty of skill how to pass the ball and play within a system. Or, use him as a finisher. Markkanen only averaged 1.9 assists last season and I'm sure Whitmore can accomplish that. In short, I'd say that his main deficiency can be taught, developed and overcome, while he's got pretty much everything else you want. That's an easy pick at #9, and someone I'd be willing to trade up for and consider it a very nice consolation prize for missing on Victor, Scoot or Miller.
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Post#300 » by CoreyVillains » Thu Jun 1, 2023 10:01 pm

Hey guys, Corey here from No Ceilings. Being as though you guys are in position to potentially select Taylor Hendricks, I thought I'd stop by and post the film session that I recently filmed with him. Gives a great glimpse into his approach and skillset!

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