Kelly Iko: The Raptors have called about the #4 Pick.

[S.W.A.N]

We' re trying to get the #3 and #4 pick? Have we given up on trying to build from 2nd round and undrafted payers? It worked so well for one magic spell.

Nah, its either or.

Best package possible for one of Pascal or Og. I really hope it Pascal (who I really like) because OG fits the Scottie world better.

[Duffman100]

We' re trying to get the #3 and #4 pick? Have we given up on trying to build from 2nd round and undrafted payers? It worked so well for one magic spell.

Nah, its either or.

Best package possible for one of Pascal or Og. I really hope it Pascal (who I really like) because OG fits the Scottie world better.

The only problem with that is that extra usage is going to go to Scottie. Scottie isn't ready to take the extra usage. Scottie will then start getting **** on by people here.

[GreatWhiteStiff]

You might say you get ready for the extra usage by getting the extra uage. That's what molded Derozan into the megasuperstar and HOFer he is today, Duffy.

[XTC]

You might say you get ready for the extra usage by getting the extra uage. That's what molded Derozan into the megasuperstar and HOFer he is today, Duffy.

Young players need the usage and the ability to play through mistakes. Demar, and Bosh are prime time examples. We can even look at TMac going to Orlando.

Another example is Paul George and Jimmy Butler, who didn't really take off until Rose/Granger got injured and they where thrust into bigger role.

Yanking a young guy everytime he made a mistake can ruin a prospect IMO (I'm looking at you Nurse).

[Thaddy]

If we're sticking with Barnes and Siakam we need to use that 4th pick to draft Hendricks. It would be a bit high so I would go for a 6, 11, Harris, Anthony for OG, 13th deal. Then we would be in the range of Hendricks and Wallace.

Hendricks
Siakam
Barnes
Wallace
FVV

This would be the best combination of offense and defense we could put together around Siakam and Barnes. Using the 4th or 6th pick on a guy like Black would be disappointing. Long term Whitmore would make the most sense because I don't see Hendricks becoming an all star.

[BHF]

No rookie will ever develop around stat padding Pascal and selfish Fred, I don't want these guys on the team especially Fred, my eyes burn when i see people suggesting him as a started for next season. Like do you people actually watch games or just youtube highlights?

[LBJKB24MJ23]

We' re trying to get the #3 and #4 pick? Have we given up on trying to build from 2nd round and undrafted payers? It worked so well for one magic spell.

Nah, its either or.

Best package possible for one of Pascal or Og. I really hope it Pascal (who I really like) because OG fits the Scottie world better.

The only problem with that is that extra usage is going to go to Scottie. Scottie isn't ready to take the extra usage. Scottie will then start getting **** on by people here.

i think 3rd year Scottie should be ready for a growth spurt in his game + extended usage. but then again growth is not linear.

[Michael Jordan]

This is definitely the draft class to find a PG of the future. Please don't bring Freddy back.

[Raptors Realtor]

This is definitely the draft class to find a PG of the future. Please don't bring Freddy back.

Not sure about that, this isn't a pure PG heavy draft.

[Clay Davis]

We' re trying to get the #3 and #4 pick? Have we given up on trying to build from 2nd round and undrafted payers? It worked so well for one magic spell.

Nah, its either or.

Best package possible for one of Pascal or Og. I really hope it Pascal (who I really like) because OG fits the Scottie world better.

The only problem with that is that extra usage is going to go to Scottie. Scottie isn't ready to take the extra usage. Scottie will then start getting **** on by people here.

Lol all the people who talked crap about the pick will come crawling out of the woodwork

[Michael Jordan]

This is definitely the draft class to find a PG of the future. Please don't bring Freddy back.

Not sure about that, this isn't a pure PG heavy draft.

It's not PG heavy but with the #13 and OG/Siakam they can definitely make a splash and land two combo guards. The forward and center depth is fine.

[Bruin]

This is definitely the draft class to find a PG of the future. Please don't bring Freddy back.

Not sure about that, this isn't a pure PG heavy draft.

It’s not PG heavy but if we can come out of the draft with Scoot or Cason then we should hopefully have our PG of the future

[KL78192020]

If we're sticking with Barnes and Siakam we need to use that 4th pick to draft Hendricks. It would be a bit high so I would go for a 6, 11, Harris, Anthony for OG, 13th deal. Then we would be in the range of Hendricks and Wallace.

Hendricks
Siakam
Barnes
Wallace
FVV

This would be the best combination of offense and defense we could put together around Siakam and Barnes. Using the 4th or 6th pick on a guy like Black would be disappointing. Long term Whitmore would make the most sense because I don't see Hendricks becoming an all star.

where did Poeltl go? lol

[youreachiteach]

People are assuming that he'll be let go because he doesn't want to be part of a "rebuild". We have his bird rights and can pay him the most. I imagine we do so, given his cost. I find it hard to believe that Masai will allow his asset to leave.

[mademan]

Poeltl is going nowhere, lol. He's a role playing C in a league where role playing C's are devalued. Raps are gonna pay him more than anyone else can and he'll take it. Very few (basically none) guys are passing up a payday so that they can be a role player on a winning team.

[mtcan]

Man, if we get Amen Thompson out of this, all is forgiven for that weird trade deadline Masai. Toronto should move anyone for a talent like this.

Athleticism and weird angle finishes at the rim

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Those highlights look sick.

However...is anyone concerned regarding the level of competition that the twins played against at Overtime Elite? OTE seems like Globetrotters vs Washington Generals. Would they look nearly as good against NCAA or even G League level talent?

[KL78192020]

Trading for a franchise player like this, sure beats tanking for one.

Maybe I'm missing the sarcasm here, but... does it?

Obviously it's better than a sustained multi-year tank job, but a pick in this range was well within reach had we just decided to head in that direction.

Then we'd just have the pick instead of talking about trading one of our three best players for it. That player could then be flipped for something else (presumably better than the 13th pick).

Lol do people not realize you have to give up something to get something. could’ve had the current roster and a top pick.

[deeps6x]

Poeltl is going nowhere, lol. He's a role playing C in a league where role playing C's are devalued. Raps are gonna pay him more than anyone else can and he'll take it. Very few (basically none) guys are passing up a payday so that they can be a role player on a winning team.

I'd really like to see Poeltl get an offer and have the Raptors match it. I just don't see any other team offering crazy money for him, so we might as well let the market decide what he is worth. No need to over pay him. Overpaying Birch effectively cost us the ability to lottery protect our 2024 draft pick.

[PhilBlackson]

Nah, its either or.

Best package possible for one of Pascal or Og. I really hope it Pascal (who I really like) because OG fits the Scottie world better.

The only problem with that is that extra usage is going to go to Scottie. Scottie isn't ready to take the extra usage. Scottie will then start getting **** on by people here.

i think 3rd year Scottie should be ready for a growth spurt in his game + extended usage. but then again growth is not linear.

For one the second Pascal is traded everyone will know we’re in a rebuild and the expectations on the team will drop drastically and next if Scottie is or will become what the franchise wants him to be, he must be put into a lead role (period).

Saying “he isn’t ready” is kinda silly. Aside from the generational prospects ie/ LeBron, Luka maybe Vic, there are very few prospects that can step right in and takeover a franchise. They have to be DEVELOPED into that role as actually most top 5 picks each year are thrust into (Cade, Green, Banchero, LaMelo etc). If anything he was incredibly fortunate to be given a 2 year ramp up. The whole point of this is to clear the pathway so that he can finally start gaining some experience as the lead or at least one of the leads of this team without vets like Fred in his way. Of course he won’t be perfect out the gates but that’s exactly why it’s happening so he can LEARN what it takes to be that guy and truth is if we were to trade Pascal for the 3rd and it was Scoot, chances are it will be Scoot who actually takes over tbh. Either way this would be a great thing for his development instead of continuing to put him in a fairly passive role.

I can’t welcome the change enough.

[MiamiSPX]

Poeltl is going nowhere, lol. He's a role playing C in a league where role playing C's are devalued. Raps are gonna pay him more than anyone else can and he'll take it. Very few (basically none) guys are passing up a payday so that they can be a role player on a winning team.

I'd really like to see Poeltl get an offer and have the Raptors match it. I just don't see any other team offering crazy money for him, so we might as well let the market decide what he is worth. No need to over pay him. Overpaying Birch effectively cost us the ability to lottery protect our 2024 draft pick.

Underrated observation and something that doesn't get discussed enough. That overpayment had a ripple effect. Who exactly were the Raps bidding against? He could have been had for 3/12 and that still would have been questionable.