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2023 Draft Discussion Part 5

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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#1281 » by Dalek » Mon May 29, 2023 6:25 pm

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Dalek wrote:While I would love the Pascal for 4 option, that seems like a bold move for both sides that I don't think happens.

The other scenario that I feel is more likely is OG to Indiana. I really think he is their big target and they have the draft capital to get it done.

Toronto had shown interest in Maxwell Lewis and Trayce Jackson-Davis and Tolzman has talked about the trouble of trying to work out guys outside the mock draft range of 13. Could it mean we are preparing for other draft options?

Indiana picks in 2023: 7, 26, 29

Potential trade:
OG/Precious/Thad

for

Nembhard/Hield 7, 26, 29

Kevin Pritchard seems open to trade and wants a competitor that is ready for the playoffs. OG and his skillset is perfect for any playoff team:

If Toronto has 7, 13, 26, 29 they can package two picks to move up, target late first round guys, or just look at retooling through this deep draft class.

I wonder what they’d want for Mathurin. Like if we go to them and offer OG for Ben plus fillers, do they take it? I’d love to swing for potential Canadian stars. The second one being Sharpe in a deal for Siakam.


I think they see a star in Mathurin. Pritchard loves the guy. Honestly, I'd love Nembhard because he allows Toronto to move on from FVV without hesitation.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#1282 » by Rapsfan07 » Mon May 29, 2023 6:25 pm

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Wow, Kobe Bufkin at #10 :o

Bobi Klintman at #15 :o Seems like Ousmane Dieng 2.0

Dariq Whitehead down at #35? I guess if he doesn't recover 100% he could be Michael Redd 2.0, who was drafted #43.

Sasser in the 2nd round at #37?


I had the exact same takeaways as well.

Even with his injury, I can't see Whitehead sliding all the way down to the second round. Same with Sasser - I personally think he's a lock for the late first round.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#1283 » by Psubs » Mon May 29, 2023 6:27 pm

Dalek wrote:While I would love the Pascal for 4 option, that seems like a bold move for both sides that I don't think happens.

The other scenario that I feel is more likely is OG to Indiana. I really think he is their big target and they have the draft capital to get it done.

Toronto had shown interest in Maxwell Lewis and Trayce Jackson-Davis and Tolzman has talked about the trouble of trying to work out guys outside the mock draft range of 13. Could it mean we are preparing for other draft options?

Indiana picks in 2023: 7, 26, 29

Potential trade:
OG/Precious/Thad

for

Nembhard/Hield 7, 26, 29

Kevin Pritchard seems open to trade and wants a competitor that is ready for the playoffs. OG and his skillset is perfect for any playoff team:

If Toronto has 7, 13, 26, 29 they can package two picks to move up, target late first round guys, or just look at retooling through this deep draft class.


Thaddeus has a $1 million buyout that will be exercised. OG, Precious and Flynn is fine. Flynn for 29 is amazing, Nembhard and 26 for Precious is pretty balanced, and #7 and Hield for OG is alright I guess. Maybe take Precious and one of the picks in the 20's out.

OG/Flynn

for

Nembhard/Hield 7 and 26 (or 29)
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#1284 » by Psubs » Mon May 29, 2023 6:30 pm

Son Goku 25 wrote:Got this feeling Ainge will select Gradey D


Walker Kessler and now Dick? Play to your fans?

They need a PG though.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#1285 » by BoyzNTheHood » Mon May 29, 2023 6:30 pm

Dalek wrote:
BoyzNTheHood wrote:
Dalek wrote:While I would love the Pascal for 4 option, that seems like a bold move for both sides that I don't think happens.

The other scenario that I feel is more likely is OG to Indiana. I really think he is their big target and they have the draft capital to get it done.

Toronto had shown interest in Maxwell Lewis and Trayce Jackson-Davis and Tolzman has talked about the trouble of trying to work out guys outside the mock draft range of 13. Could it mean we are preparing for other draft options?

Indiana picks in 2023: 7, 26, 29

Potential trade:
OG/Precious/Thad

for

Nembhard/Hield 7, 26, 29

Kevin Pritchard seems open to trade and wants a competitor that is ready for the playoffs. OG and his skillset is perfect for any playoff team:

If Toronto has 7, 13, 26, 29 they can package two picks to move up, target late first round guys, or just look at retooling through this deep draft class.

I wonder what they’d want for Mathurin. Like if we go to them and offer OG for Ben plus fillers, do they take it? I’d love to swing for potential Canadian stars. The second one being Sharpe in a deal for Siakam.


I think they see a star in Mathurin. Pritchard loves the guy. Honestly, I'd love Nembhard because he allows Toronto to move on from FVV without hesitation.

I’d agree that he values Mathurin highly, but I’m not sure Nembhard moves the needle enough.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#1286 » by S.W.A.N » Mon May 29, 2023 6:33 pm

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S.W.A.N wrote:
BoyzNTheHood wrote:This is my last response to you because you’re absolutely clueless and happy about it. And no, you don’t any make sense, but I wouldn’t expect you to understand why. It’s funny how you’re calling me “goofy” when I haven’t called you any childish names, and then have the audacity to call me an “azzhole”. Again, make it make sense. Nice try avoiding the language filter, but reported.

Do you research next time. Alexander is right up there with Bufkin when it comes to everything except finishing at the rim. It’s arguable who had better teammates to take away from their production more, but Bufkin basically had 2 other pros in Dickinson and Howard, while Alexander was playing off of Kaluma, Kalkbrenner, Nembhard, and Baylor Scheierman.

Alexander was the better shooter statistically. Had better percentages across the board, except for at the rim which was previously mentioned. He’s just as disruptive as a defender, has a better TS%, a better BPM, etc etc. Personally, I’d take Bufkin in the lottery and Alexander in the 20’s because I think the pro game suits Bufkin more, but to say Alexander will be available in the 2nd round is laughably ignorant.


???

Alexander is a second rounder in most mocks.
You are reaching here

Oh damn my bad, I forgot that mock drafts are guaranteed outcomes.


Oh so when someone questions your opinion they can be laughably ignorant, but when it just a mock draft we recognize that projecting when someone gets picked is challenging.


I'm not even disagreeing with you, I just find the language you using to be a bit hyperbolic.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#1287 » by Son Goku 25 » Mon May 29, 2023 6:37 pm

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Son Goku 25 wrote:Got this feeling Ainge will select Gradey D


Walker Kessler and now Dick? Play to your fans?

They need a PG though.


They got Sexton lol
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#1288 » by BoyzNTheHood » Mon May 29, 2023 6:37 pm

S.W.A.N wrote:
BoyzNTheHood wrote:
S.W.A.N wrote:
???

Alexander is a second rounder in most mocks.
You are reaching here

Oh damn my bad, I forgot that mock drafts are guaranteed outcomes.


Oh so when someone questions your opinion they can be laughably ignorant, but when it just a mock draft we recognize that projecting when someone gets picked is challenging.


I'm not even disagreeing with you, I just find the language you using to be a bit hyperbolic.

Judging a player based on their attributes is how we work around here. Mock drafts are hastily put together in order to gain clicks, and guys don’t put in the research like we would for guys we’re specifically targeting. There are plenty of guys in this draft who I’m clueless about because they don’t seem like Raptors style picks. But Trey Alexander is one I’d target for a workout if I was Raptors management, so I’m looking deeper into him.

It’s not even the language you’re using. It’s the white knighting that has me over here throwing up in my mouth.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#1289 » by S.W.A.N » Mon May 29, 2023 6:42 pm

BoyzNTheHood wrote:
S.W.A.N wrote:
BoyzNTheHood wrote:Oh damn my bad, I forgot that mock drafts are guaranteed outcomes.


Oh so when someone questions your opinion they can be laughably ignorant, but when it just a mock draft we recognize that projecting when someone gets picked is challenging.


I'm not even disagreeing with you, I just find the language you using to be a bit hyperbolic.

Judging a player based on their attributes is how we work around here. Mock drafts are hastily put together in order to gain clicks, and guys don’t put in the research like we would for guys we’re specifically targeting. There are plenty of guys in this draft who I’m clueless about because they don’t seem like Raptors style picks. But Trey Alexander is one I’d target for a workout if I was Raptors management, so I’m looking deeper into him.

It’s not even the language you’re using. It’s the white knighting that has me over here throwing up in my mouth.


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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#1290 » by BoyzNTheHood » Mon May 29, 2023 6:43 pm

S.W.A.N wrote:
BoyzNTheHood wrote:
S.W.A.N wrote:
Oh so when someone questions your opinion they can be laughably ignorant, but when it just a mock draft we recognize that projecting when someone gets picked is challenging.


I'm not even disagreeing with you, I just find the language you using to be a bit hyperbolic.

Judging a player based on their attributes is how we work around here. Mock drafts are hastily put together in order to gain clicks, and guys don’t put in the research like we would for guys we’re specifically targeting. There are plenty of guys in this draft who I’m clueless about because they don’t seem like Raptors style picks. But Trey Alexander is one I’d target for a workout if I was Raptors management, so I’m looking deeper into him.

It’s not even the language you’re using. It’s the white knighting that has me over here throwing up in my mouth.


Don't choke on it.

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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#1291 » by deeps6x » Mon May 29, 2023 7:30 pm

Pacers looking to package all of their picks to move up? How far up do you think they could move? #5?
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#1292 » by KL78192020 » Mon May 29, 2023 7:44 pm

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Son Goku 25 wrote:Got this feeling Ainge will select Gradey D


Walker Kessler and now Dick? Play to your fans?

They need a PG though.


They have Minny's pick as well. Can probably get one of the PG's that drops, maybe Bufkin or Nick Smith Jr. Gradey probably goes higher than either of those two.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#1293 » by Morse Code » Mon May 29, 2023 8:39 pm

BoyzNTheHood wrote:
Rapsfan07 wrote:
BoyzNTheHood wrote:
I didn't tell you anything, you exposed yourself. And what's especially goofy is claiming Bufkin as a first round pick while Alexander isn't. Make it make sense.


It makes plenty of sense. If you're high on Alexander, that's fine. Don't gotta be an azzhole because I don't agree with you.

This is my last response to you because you’re absolutely clueless and happy about it. And no, you don’t any make sense, but I wouldn’t expect you to understand why. It’s funny how you’re calling me “goofy” when I haven’t called you any childish names, and then have the audacity to call me an “azzhole”. Again, make it make sense. Nice try avoiding the language filter, but reported.

Do you research next time. Alexander is right up there with Bufkin when it comes to everything except finishing at the rim. It’s arguable who had better teammates to take away from their production more, but Bufkin basically had 2 other pros in Dickinson and Howard, while Alexander was playing off of Kaluma, Kalkbrenner, Nembhard, and Baylor Scheierman.

Alexander was the better shooter statistically. Had better percentages across the board, except for at the rim which was previously mentioned. He’s just as disruptive as a defender, has a better TS%, a better BPM, etc etc. Personally, I’d take Bufkin in the lottery and Alexander in the 20’s because I think the pro game suits Bufkin more, but to say Alexander will be available in the 2nd round is laughably ignorant.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#1294 » by BoyzNTheHood » Mon May 29, 2023 8:41 pm

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Rapsfan07 wrote:
It makes plenty of sense. If you're high on Alexander, that's fine. Don't gotta be an azzhole because I don't agree with you.

This is my last response to you because you’re absolutely clueless and happy about it. And no, you don’t any make sense, but I wouldn’t expect you to understand why. It’s funny how you’re calling me “goofy” when I haven’t called you any childish names, and then have the audacity to call me an “azzhole”. Again, make it make sense. Nice try avoiding the language filter, but reported.

Do you research next time. Alexander is right up there with Bufkin when it comes to everything except finishing at the rim. It’s arguable who had better teammates to take away from their production more, but Bufkin basically had 2 other pros in Dickinson and Howard, while Alexander was playing off of Kaluma, Kalkbrenner, Nembhard, and Baylor Scheierman.

Alexander was the better shooter statistically. Had better percentages across the board, except for at the rim which was previously mentioned. He’s just as disruptive as a defender, has a better TS%, a better BPM, etc etc. Personally, I’d take Bufkin in the lottery and Alexander in the 20’s because I think the pro game suits Bufkin more, but to say Alexander will be available in the 2nd round is laughably ignorant.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#1295 » by OakleyDokely » Mon May 29, 2023 8:53 pm

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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#1296 » by Morse Code » Mon May 29, 2023 9:30 pm

BoyzNTheHood wrote:
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BoyzNTheHood wrote:This is my last response to you because you’re absolutely clueless and happy about it. And no, you don’t any make sense, but I wouldn’t expect you to understand why. It’s funny how you’re calling me “goofy” when I haven’t called you any childish names, and then have the audacity to call me an “azzhole”. Again, make it make sense. Nice try avoiding the language filter, but reported.

Do you research next time. Alexander is right up there with Bufkin when it comes to everything except finishing at the rim. It’s arguable who had better teammates to take away from their production more, but Bufkin basically had 2 other pros in Dickinson and Howard, while Alexander was playing off of Kaluma, Kalkbrenner, Nembhard, and Baylor Scheierman.

Alexander was the better shooter statistically. Had better percentages across the board, except for at the rim which was previously mentioned. He’s just as disruptive as a defender, has a better TS%, a better BPM, etc etc. Personally, I’d take Bufkin in the lottery and Alexander in the 20’s because I think the pro game suits Bufkin more, but to say Alexander will be available in the 2nd round is laughably ignorant.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#1297 » by BoyzNTheHood » Mon May 29, 2023 9:33 pm

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Post#1298 » by BoyzNTheHood » Mon May 29, 2023 9:36 pm

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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#1299 » by WuTang_CMB » Mon May 29, 2023 9:39 pm

deeps6x wrote:Pacers looking to package all of their picks to move up? How far up do you think they could move? #5?


I don't think anyone bites. POR, HOU want real players not picks. DET maybe but I think they fall in love with Whitmore/Hendricks and stay put
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Post#1300 » by youreachiteach » Mon May 29, 2023 9:44 pm

Jarace Walker reminds me of a less svelte Chris Webber.
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