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Trade Thread Tread pt.2 2023-24 - (Off-season)

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Re: Trade Thread Tread pt.2 2023-24 - (Off-season) 

Post#161 » by Patsfan1081 » Tue May 30, 2023 3:57 am

Curmudgeon wrote:Certainly Simmons would be more attractive to Toronto than he would be to Boston. Jerami Grant might work for the Celtics if resigned to a reasonable deal, but I don't see any huge value at #3. Maybe Cam Whitmore, but he strikes me as a younger version of Jaylen Brown with the same strengths and weaknesses.


Could have had Grant instead of Brogdan last season, same with Wood.
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Re: Trade Thread Tread pt.2 2023-24 - (Off-season) 

Post#162 » by Patsfan1081 » Tue May 30, 2023 4:00 am

MSTRJMES wrote:Why wouldn’t they?
I cant get with paying Brown 300m
Get three young athletic players for the price of one.


Unless there’s another move in there for Beal you’ve all but insured Tatum wants out as well. You cant move on from Brown without brining in some type of vet talent with play making abilities.
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Re: Jaylen Brown trade ideas 

Post#163 » by Marvel » Tue May 30, 2023 4:02 am

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Interesting. Both teams would certainly consider that. I think the C's would need to add another guy that can play the 5 somehow though.

Can get that guy through FA cheap or address in the draft. Yurtseven is a guy i like don't know why he's been glued to the bench in Miami.


Yeah good point. Would expanding your idea work, in your opinion. Brown/Smart for Simons/Grant/#3 then re-route #3 with Horford for Siakam? I'm not really as clued in as others suggesting trades so just interested if that would work in the minds of yourself and others who have a better idea than I do.

Salary would work. Would definitely work lol.

Simons/Brogdon/White
Siakam
Tatum
Grant
Rob

edit: actually would have to address the Rob situation as he is always injured.
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Re: Trade Thread Tread pt.2 2023-24 - (Off-season) 

Post#164 » by LoveMyRaps » Tue May 30, 2023 4:04 am

Siakam is coming to save y'all. Fret not!
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Re: Trade Thread Tread pt.2 2023-24 - (Off-season) 

Post#165 » by LoveMyRaps » Tue May 30, 2023 4:04 am

Shamrock23 wrote:Ca we do Brown for KAT? We need some muscle inside.


KAT is one of the softest players in the league.
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Re: Trade Thread Tread pt.2 2023-24 - (Off-season) 

Post#166 » by Bohemian » Tue May 30, 2023 4:05 am

I don't think the team should or will trade Brown. Just need to add some pieces to this team. We'll be better next year.

Brown is a great player, despite his horrible game tonight. He should stay.
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Re: Jaylen Brown trade ideas 

Post#167 » by threrf23 » Tue May 30, 2023 4:05 am

Mikal Bridges & Nic Claxton would be a great haul.

Zero interest in Siakam.
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Re: Trade Thread Tread pt.2 2023-24 - (Off-season) 

Post#168 » by LoveMyRaps » Tue May 30, 2023 4:06 am

Bohemian wrote:I don't think the team should or will trade Brown. Just need to add some pieces to this team. We'll be better next year.

Brown is a great player, despite his horrible game tonight. He should stay.


I agree. Tatum and Brown are one of the best duos in the league and still young. You build around them not break them up.

As much as I've loved Smart since his Oklahoma days, it might be time to move him + RWII for another borderline star player.
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Re: Jaylen Brown trade ideas 

Post#169 » by mg » Tue May 30, 2023 4:12 am

Red2 wrote:Brown and smart ( or Horford) for john collins and deandre hunter


Not close unless they are including Dejounte.
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Post#170 » by playa-hater » Tue May 30, 2023 4:16 am

threrf23 wrote:Mikal Bridges & Nic Claxton would be a great haul.

Zero interest in Siakam.


After what Brooklyn went through with Kyrie Irving there's no way I can see them trading from Brown...

I think bridges is exactly the type of play they want to build around on and off the court.
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Re: Trade Thread Tread pt.2 2023-24 - (Off-season) 

Post#171 » by CelticFaninLBC » Tue May 30, 2023 4:18 am

Bohemian wrote:I don't think the team should or will trade Brown. Just need to add some pieces to this team. We'll be better next year.

Brown is a great player, despite his horrible game tonight. He should stay.


Trading a guy for 75% of his worth after a **** game would be pretty dumb.
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Re: Jaylen Brown trade ideas 

Post#172 » by threrf23 » Tue May 30, 2023 4:21 am

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I think bridges is exactly the type of play they want to build around on and off the court.


Yeah I wasn't saying that the Nets would go for it. But I don't know? I'm not sure Bridges is the type of player you build around. At his best I feel like he makes an elite #2 guy more so than he is a guy you build around.
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Re: Trade Thread Tread pt.2 2023-24 - (Off-season) 

Post#173 » by Shamrock23 » Tue May 30, 2023 4:28 am

Bohemian wrote:I doubt Brad is firing Joe or trading Jaylen so most of these posts are (logical) frustrated pipedream thoughts


...and let fans suffer for another year?
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Re: Trade Thread Tread pt.2 2023-24 - (Off-season) 

Post#174 » by Shamrock23 » Tue May 30, 2023 4:30 am

CelticFaninLBC wrote:
Bohemian wrote:I don't think the team should or will trade Brown. Just need to add some pieces to this team. We'll be better next year.

Brown is a great player, despite his horrible game tonight. He should stay.


Trading a guy for 75% of his worth after a **** game would be pretty dumb.


He's hurt the team year after year doing dumb, low IQ stuff. Guy has 8 turnovers vs entire Heat team with 7....that's a sign right there. No way fans deserve this kind year after year.
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Re: Jaylen Brown trade ideas 

Post#175 » by GTR11 » Tue May 30, 2023 4:35 am

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threrf23 wrote:Mikal Bridges & Nic Claxton would be a great haul.

Zero interest in Siakam.


After what Brooklyn went through with Kyrie Irving there's no way I can see them trading from Brown...

I think bridges is exactly the type of play they want to build around on and off the court.

No way Marks trading for Brown with Ben being on the team. That's without me mentioning what he said about Marks boss.

Best trade partner for you guys will be ATL with Trae.
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Re: Trade Thread Tread pt.2 2023-24 - (Off-season) 

Post#176 » by CelticFaninLBC » Tue May 30, 2023 4:35 am

Shamrock23 wrote:
CelticFaninLBC wrote:
Bohemian wrote:I don't think the team should or will trade Brown. Just need to add some pieces to this team. We'll be better next year.

Brown is a great player, despite his horrible game tonight. He should stay.


Trading a guy for 75% of his worth after a **** game would be pretty dumb.


He's hurt the team year after year doing dumb, low IQ stuff. Guy has 8 turnovers vs entire Heat team with 7....that's a sign right there. No way fans deserve this kind year after year.


Good luck getting full value for him due to his contract situation.
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Re: Jaylen Brown trade ideas 

Post#177 » by Marvel » Tue May 30, 2023 4:39 am

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playa-hater wrote:
threrf23 wrote:Mikal Bridges & Nic Claxton would be a great haul.

Zero interest in Siakam.


After what Brooklyn went through with Kyrie Irving there's no way I can see them trading from Brown...

I think bridges is exactly the type of play they want to build around on and off the court.

No way Marks trading for Brown with Ben being on the team. That's without me mentioning what he said about Marks boss.

Best trade partner for you guys will be ATL with Trae.

He wants to go home. He was wearing a ATL cap in his post game. But for Trae?? NO way
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Re: Jaylen Brown trade ideas 

Post#178 » by fallguy » Tue May 30, 2023 4:40 am

StealByBird wrote:He’s going nowhere….not this offseason. Only if he asks out will he be gone.


He hates Boston and may ask out.
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Re: Jaylen Brown trade ideas 

Post#179 » by celticfan42487 » Tue May 30, 2023 4:41 am

Duke4life831 wrote:
bigboi wrote:
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I dont think its too hard to make an argument on why the Pels would do this. Now Im as big of a BI homer as it gets, but resume wise Brown has been better. Brown just made 2nd team All NBA this year. Also Brown has been the more durable player over the last 2 years. And with Zion always being hurt, the durability thing could be viewed as a nice boost. Also just lineup fit wise, I think Brown fits better with the Pels than BI does. No need to worry about who is the primary and secondary ball handler anymore. This was an issue with the Pels to start the season. The Pels want point Zion to become a thing, BI being a legit point forward is a thing and CJ also wants the ball in his hands. Brown can slide over and have a very similar offensive role as he has with Boston and the 1st and 2nd ball handler things works itself out with Zion and CJ.

Also it would make the starting lineup easier for the Pels as well. BI has improved a lot as a defender, but he is better at defending wings than guards. With the growth of Murphy in the 2nd half of the season, there was kind of going to be a log jam at the 3/4 spots. Murphy isnt a good defender yet and if you slide BI down to the 2 spot, his defense will slip a little. With this, you just plug Murphy in at the 3 and Brown at the 2.


It’s pretty simple why Pelicans don’t do this lmao. They literally would have 0 playmakers other than Zion if they trade Ingram. Zion isn’t reliable. Jaylen can’t pass the ball at all, he’s a scorer through and through. This trade doesn’t seem realistic at all. Again realistic and possible targets are Young, Mitchell and Siakim. Ideal player is Bridges easily but Nets aren’t that dumb


I just dont see Ingram having significantly higher trade value than those guys listed. Mitchell was 6th in MVP voting this year. BI made an all star game 4 seasons ago.



Jaylen Brown for Brandon Ingram seems like a dream trade for the Celtics.

All of our current players need an elite PG next to them to reach their potential on offense. We can't find one, so swapping out Brown for another player who can actually run the offense in Ingram would give us two with both Tatum and Ingram.

And with both being big players generally two big players that can run the offense is enough to have more than a defense can scheme around and let us run sets.

Move Smart to off ball where he belongs and limit his moronic passes and shots. And actually get some open shots for Tatum and we've got a championship core on our hands.


That said him being 25, unable to really play much defense, and barely getting to 60 games played in each of the last 4 years is highly concerning.

That's a lot of warts. And it doesn't help if we're trading for a guy who won't be available to play when we make the playoffs, which seems to be our speciality lately by rostering the oldest starting Center in Horford, injury prone Rob and Brogdon, and Smart is known for his injuries himself.

But yeah so it makes sense why both teams would be interested in a trade.

It's a high risk but with the ceiling that a Smart/White/Brown/Tatum core has shown you that 0 playmaking outside of Tatum has reached... I think that's a dream trade to take. One of the very few realistic retools on the fly to actually get a roster that fits.
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Re: Trade Thread Tread pt.2 2023-24 - (Off-season) 

Post#180 » by GTR11 » Tue May 30, 2023 4:41 am

LoveMyRaps wrote:
Bohemian wrote:I don't think the team should or will trade Brown. Just need to add some pieces to this team. We'll be better next year.

Brown is a great player, despite his horrible game tonight. He should stay.


I agree. Tatum and Brown are one of the best duos in the league and still young. You build around them not break them up.

As much as I've loved Smart since his Oklahoma days, it might be time to move him + RWII for another borderline star player.

I think you not taking new CBA into consideration. In a year or two Brown and Tatum will be eating 2/3 of the cap.

Need them to take a pay cut to build a solid roster.

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