How many titles does Lebron have simply staying with the Heat?

Eagle4 · Post #1 » by **Eagle4** » Tue May 30, 2023 2:10 pm

So we know he bolts to Cleveland after assuming Wade and Bosh were done and simply wanted some fresh blood to help win him more titles. However, in '16 Wade looked more like his dominant self (compared to the shell he was in '14 with the bone bruise) and would've likely made the ECF to face Bron if Bosh doesn't suffer blood clots.

Riley was able to reload post-Lebron picking Whiteside off the scrap heap along with other formidable lesser known players. Pau was also rumored to be interested in joining the Heat in '14 had Lebron stayed. We then see the success that Spo and Heat had after the Heatles and last dance of Wade.

Now that "Heat culture" is cemented, how many titles do you see Heat winning if Lebron decided to stay pat (no pun intended).

Flash4thewin · Post #2 » by **Flash4thewin** » Tue May 30, 2023 2:16 pm

Zero. Why is that not an option in your poll.

YogurtProducer · Post #3 » by **YogurtProducer** » Tue May 30, 2023 2:16 pm

He goes anywhere other than the Lakers gongshow and he probably wins 2 or 3. His decision to pick LA from a purely basketball standpoint was baffling

Onus · Post #4 » by **Onus** » Tue May 30, 2023 2:21 pm

0 and Steph is considered the best player ever

wegotthabeet · Post #5 » by **wegotthabeet** » Tue May 30, 2023 2:37 pm

probably 0 until Bosh's salary came off the books, so 0 until at least 2020. I could see maybe 1 or 2 since then. it's Miami after all, so I'm sure they would have signed at least one other star to go with him. they probably make a similar trade to the AD trade and add Butler as well. I'll say 1.

Karate Diop · Post #6 » by **Karate Diop** » Tue May 30, 2023 2:45 pm

Bron left the Heat to do what nobody else has ever done before.

Mans wanted to bring a cod jam 'Chip to his hometown 'chise. And dude succeeded. He brought that shiny to The Land.

Can't ever take that away from him.

Have some RESPEK bro.

mg · Post #7 » by mg » Tue May 30, 2023 3:00 pm

The Heat were exhausted of assets at that point. Bosh and Wade were toast. Him leaving led to them drafting Bam and then later acquiring Jimmy.

He should've stayed in Cleveland in 2018. Cavs had the Brooklyn pick plus all their future picks (and some extra picks they turned into Lauri and Allen). They at least had assets to bring in supporting players. Once they got word in 2017 he would be leaving then Kyrie asked out. Cavs were more interested in keeping a future asset like the Brooklyn pick for a rebuild because they knew Lebron would be gone in 2018.

Ni Da Ye · Post #8 » by **Ni Da Ye** » Tue May 30, 2023 3:00 pm

invalid poll since 0 is not an option

HoopsterJones · Post #9 » by **HoopsterJones** » Tue May 30, 2023 3:01 pm

Probably 0. Bosh had to medically retire and Wade was past his prime.

Plus the Warriors would have dominated them if they made the Finals.

Loaded_Hollows · Post #10 » by **Loaded_Hollows** » Tue May 30, 2023 3:08 pm

What good would winning more tainted and cheap titles do?

louisorr · Post #11 » by **louisorr** » Tue May 30, 2023 3:11 pm

Loaded_Hollows wrote:What good would winning more tainted and cheap titles do?

yeah, it would be like KDs rings. hollow. That one ring with Cleveland is worth 5 with the heat.

Heat3 · Post #12 » by **Heat3** » Tue May 30, 2023 3:12 pm

If Bam and Dragic don’t get hurt at the start of the bubble Finals he’d have one less title than he has now.

elfrancotirador · Post #13 » by **elfrancotirador** » Thu Jun 1, 2023 12:54 am

Loaded_Hollows wrote:What good would winning more tainted and cheap titles do?

Well, Jordan came back after retirement. So, they clearly meant something to him.

Taj FTW · Post #14 » by **Taj FTW** » Thu Jun 1, 2023 12:56 am

elfrancotirador wrote:
Loaded_Hollows wrote:What good would winning more tainted and cheap titles do?

Well, Jordan came back after retirement. So, they clearly meant something to him.

Jordan's 2nd 3-peat doesn't count because of superteam

No-more-rings · Post #15 » by **No-more-rings** » Thu Jun 1, 2023 1:03 am

Onus wrote:0 and Steph is considered the best player ever

Only among hardcore Curry stans.

TheHartBreakKid · Post #16 » by **TheHartBreakKid** » Thu Jun 1, 2023 1:04 am

I think he would get another one in a retool in MIA. But yeah, the heatles core was done. A retool would be necessary

Post #17 » by **og15** » Thu Jun 1, 2023 1:05 am

Your question is not how many, but how many MORE. So how many more than two, which means you should have a zero option as two could be an option.

elfrancotirador · Post #18 » by **elfrancotirador** » Thu Jun 1, 2023 1:08 am

Taj FTW wrote:
elfrancotirador wrote:
Loaded_Hollows wrote:What good would winning more tainted and cheap titles do?

Well, Jordan came back after retirement. So, they clearly meant something to him.

Jordan's 2nd 3-peat doesn't count because of superteam

Under the standard/logic that Lebrons don't count because of "superteam", then yes, Jordans 6 would not count either.

tihsad · Post #19 » by **tihsad** » Thu Jun 1, 2023 1:12 am

Didn't see the explanation of how Miami would be able to put a competitive team around Lebron like the one he went to in Cleveland. Obviously LA is out. With LB's skill set I have to imagine he'd win a 3rd title, even if I appreciate the arguments against this.

Jfh20 · Post #20 » by **Jfh20** » Thu Jun 1, 2023 1:14 am

louisorr wrote:
Loaded_Hollows wrote:What good would winning more tainted and cheap titles do?

yeah, it would be like KDs rings. hollow. That one ring with Cleveland is worth 5 with the heat.

How??? They built another superteam with Irving, love, lbj?? And even worse that Lebron asked silver to suspend dray which helped them get back in the series… I kno it’s his hometown but let’s not act like cle wasn’t a cop out either

How many more titles