Trade Thread Tread pt.2 2023-24 - (Off-season)

[chrisab123]

For me, I'm past the point of looking at players individually. We aren't in the collecting talent stage anymore. It's about fit. Our team is less than the sum of its parts. It's not just about winning value on trades, it's about how the ensuing roster fits together. You might have player X as better than player Y, but if player Y plays a complimentary game to the rest of your roster then you are better off with him.

Everything for me should be about how the pieces fit together. Any potential move should be made envisioning certain lineup combinations and how the players on the floor would compliment each other.

If they're retaining Mazzulla as the coach, then they need to replace Brown or Smart with a better shooter, since Mazzulla ball revolves around 3 point shooting.

They aren't trading Smart at all. I don't think for anyone honestly. Tatum wants Brown here so he'll stay. I'd bet Williams goes because he can't shoot 3s.

[chrisab123]

The Celtics and Brad Stevens biggest moves this off-season are going to be getting 4-5 new assistant coaches around Joe Mazzulla.

Read on Twitter

Gary Washburn of the Boston Globe reported Tuesday that Ben Sullivan, Aaron Miles and Mike Moser are three Celtics assistants that are expected to join Udoka’s staff in Houston.

Mike D'Antoni. Make it happen.

Edit: should have made it terms of his release he couldn't poach this whole staff.

Should have but again if he's a Stevens disciple the chances of him getting a veteran coaching staff around him is slim. We're going to get more Stevens guys. Maybe Larranaga back again. But names like Pringles and Vogel and Silas who have been head coaches previously need not apply.

[Celts17Pride]

I think if the Celtics can't move Brogdon then G Williams has very little chance of staying with the Celtics. Celtics will just use Gallo in the G Williams role for about $7 million in my opinion.

[Celts17Pride]

The Celtics and Brad Stevens biggest moves this off-season are going to be getting 4-5 new assistant coaches around Joe Mazzulla.

Read on Twitter

Gary Washburn of the Boston Globe reported Tuesday that Ben Sullivan, Aaron Miles and Mike Moser are three Celtics assistants that are expected to join Udoka’s staff in Houston.

Mike D'Antoni. Make it happen.

Edit: should have made it terms of his release he couldn't poach this whole staff.

Should have but again if he's a Stevens disciple the chances of him getting a veteran coaching staff around him is slim. We're going to get more Stevens guys. Maybe Larranaga back again. But names like Pringles and Vogel and Silas who have been head coaches previously need not apply.

In my opinion, one of Silas or Vogel is a lock to be an assistant coach next year for the Celtics.

[Triple7]

For me, I'm past the point of looking at players individually. We aren't in the collecting talent stage anymore. It's about fit. Our team is less than the sum of its parts. It's not just about winning value on trades, it's about how the ensuing roster fits together. You might have player X as better than player Y, but if player Y plays a complimentary game to the rest of your roster then you are better off with him.

Everything for me should be about how the pieces fit together. Any potential move should be made envisioning certain lineup combinations and how the players on the floor would compliment each other.

That’s exactly right. You can collect talent, but move them for a better fit, better balance. I don’t think having 2 wings for your stars fit. Tatum is better off pairing with a point guard or a center. Much like Jokic and Murray. Those guys fit. With Tatum and Brown its more like a my turn, your turn combo. Tatum gets the ball during crunch time and brown is left watching. much of the plays on crunch time revolves around smart and Tatum.

Agreed. Someone like Trae, Siakam or Embiid would be a much better fit with Tatum than Brown is.

Just not sure how realistic it is for them to trade Brown - at least this summer. Perhaps next summer (when he's not on an expiring contract) it'll happen. Plus, if we come up short of winning the title again next season, Brad will feel more pressure to make the big move..

Problem is Jaylen’s value took a hit in this last series. If we pay him the super max, it will be really hard to move him. Plus Tatum’s contract will be up next. Don’t know if we have room to wiggle with 2 supermax contracts.

[Triple7]

For me, I'm past the point of looking at players individually. We aren't in the collecting talent stage anymore. It's about fit. Our team is less than the sum of its parts. It's not just about winning value on trades, it's about how the ensuing roster fits together. You might have player X as better than player Y, but if player Y plays a complimentary game to the rest of your roster then you are better off with him.

Everything for me should be about how the pieces fit together. Any potential move should be made envisioning certain lineup combinations and how the players on the floor would compliment each other.

If they're retaining Mazzulla as the coach, then they need to replace Brown or Smart with a better shooter, since Mazzulla ball revolves around 3 point shooting.

I agree with this. Smart and brown had been our worst shooter in this team, and both are starting. Even worse if Rob is inside with those 2. 3 players that can’t shoot inside, and an offense that revolves around 3pt shooting won’t work.

[The Corey's]

Really gonna trust Brad to get Joe assistance? He's the one who doubled down on Joe in the first place.

If Brad rolls out this same first 7. Horford/Brown/Tatum/Smart/Rob/Brogdan/White and or Brogdan is the odd man out, then just forget about it.

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results, as the cliche goes.

It really sucks man cause in his first two off seasons, Brad made just about all the right moves and he's gonna undo it by commitibg the same mistake danny did. Commiting to something that clearly isnt working.

[tfribs45]

well since were in the land of make believe , I'd gladly take Irving back lol. He's exactly what this offense needs believe it or not and we could prob get him on the cheap. How's that for Irony!

[The Corey's]

For me, I'm past the point of looking at players individually. We aren't in the collecting talent stage anymore. It's about fit. Our team is less than the sum of its parts. It's not just about winning value on trades, it's about how the ensuing roster fits together. You might have player X as better than player Y, but if player Y plays a complimentary game to the rest of your roster then you are better off with him.

Everything for me should be about how the pieces fit together. Any potential move should be made envisioning certain lineup combinations and how the players on the floor would compliment each other.

If they're retaining Mazzulla as the coach, then they need to replace Brown or Smart with a better shooter, since Mazzulla ball revolves around 3 point shooting.

I agree with this. Smart and brown had been our worst shooter in this team, and both are starting. Even worse if Rob is inside with those 2. 3 players that can’t shoot inside, and an offense that revolves around 3pt shooting won’t work.

Smart literally said in his post game that his job this summer is to practice his shooting so the team has more avenues to pass so.

Smart is literally telling you that he HAS TO SHOOT MORE.

You can't just get better at shooting by practicing as you're pushing 30. You are who you are at this point. It's a gift that few people on earth have, if repetition is the only thing that matters than everyone in the league would be great at shooting.

[djFan71]

Similar idea

Brown to portland
#3 and Brogdon and Kornet to Orlando
Wendel carter jr, gary Harris, and 11 to boston

Simons/pritchard
Smart/white
Tatum/harris
Carter jr/gallo
Timelord/horford

I did this exact trade yesterday, here or elsewhere, can't remember - laws of probability, lol. Was waffling on if we could get 6 or not. Possibly without Brogdon/Harris and we throw in a smaller asset.

[The Corey's]

I think it's almost a certainty that the Celtics get under the tax this year.

Wyc and Brad see that 600 mil plus commitment to the Jays on the horizon and if they're already in year 3 or 4 of the repeater tax BEFORE Tatum's extension even kicks in, Wyc is in for a serious bill.

That is before we all understand exactly how the second HARD apron is going to affect the league.

[Andrew McCeltic]

The Celtics and Brad Stevens biggest moves this off-season are going to be getting 4-5 new assistant coaches around Joe Mazzulla.

Read on Twitter

Gary Washburn of the Boston Globe reported Tuesday that Ben Sullivan, Aaron Miles and Mike Moser are three Celtics assistants that are expected to join Udoka’s staff in Houston.

Ime cucking the front office again

[The Corey's]

The Celtics and Brad Stevens biggest moves this off-season are going to be getting 4-5 new assistant coaches around Joe Mazzulla.

Read on Twitter

Gary Washburn of the Boston Globe reported Tuesday that Ben Sullivan, Aaron Miles and Mike Moser are three Celtics assistants that are expected to join Udoka’s staff in Houston.

Ime cucking the front office again

The only thing I came out of that article with is the knowledge that the entire Celtics coaching staff is like 35 avg aged.

No wonder they suck.

[Andrew McCeltic]

Brogdon trade is the easiest and least disruptive scenario.

Not with Brogdon most likely having surgery and playing about 40-45 games next year, not to mention his $22.5 million salary.

Not worried about that. He’s not going to miss half the season with recovery from an elbow injury

[Andrew McCeltic]

Forget Simons, I want to do Jaylen for Sharpe/3 with a Jerami Grant sign and trade. Then flip 3 with one of Smart/White/Brogdon for an upgrade.

[Triple7]

If they're retaining Mazzulla as the coach, then they need to replace Brown or Smart with a better shooter, since Mazzulla ball revolves around 3 point shooting.

I agree with this. Smart and brown had been our worst shooter in this team, and both are starting. Even worse if Rob is inside with those 2. 3 players that can’t shoot inside, and an offense that revolves around 3pt shooting won’t work.

Smart literally said in his post game that his job this summer is to practice his shooting so the team has more avenues to pass so.

Smart is literally telling you that he HAS TO SHOOT MORE.

You can't just get better at shooting by practicing as you're pushing 30. You are who you are at this point. It's a gift that few people on earth have, if repetition is the only thing that matters than everyone in the league would be great at shooting.

Wtf!!!! Lol
He has been criticized for his lack of shooting for years, and now he tells us that its his main priority this off season??!
What a clown! I agree. Its either you have it or not.

[Triple7]

Forget Simons, I want to do Jaylen for Sharpe/3 with a Jerami Grant sign and trade. Then flip 3 with one of Smart/White/Brogdon for an upgrade.

White should be untouchable!

[tfribs45]

I agree with this. Smart and brown had been our worst shooter in this team, and both are starting. Even worse if Rob is inside with those 2. 3 players that can’t shoot inside, and an offense that revolves around 3pt shooting won’t work.

Smart literally said in his post game that his job this summer is to practice his shooting so the team has more avenues to pass so.

Smart is literally telling you that he HAS TO SHOOT MORE.

You can't just get better at shooting by practicing as you're pushing 30. You are who you are at this point. It's a gift that few people on earth have, if repetition is the only thing that matters than everyone in the league would be great at shooting.

Wtf!!!! Lol
He has been criticized for his lack of shooting for years, and now he tells us that its his main priority this off season??!
What a clown! I agree. Its either you have it or not.

only clown here is the Smaht hate club leaders. If you think Mahcus is the reason why we haven't taken that next step, then your not watching these games! White picked it up a bit over the last few games, but he was nowhere to be found when we were down 3-0.... Draymond and Barkley nailed it, we're a soft bunch and when the lights are bright, our All NBA guys disappear... And our coach is AMATEUR HOUR on the sidelines, they better bring in a proven vet that can scoop up Joes job when he is eventually let go...

[Triple7]

Smart literally said in his post game that his job this summer is to practice his shooting so the team has more avenues to pass so.

Smart is literally telling you that he HAS TO SHOOT MORE.

You can't just get better at shooting by practicing as you're pushing 30. You are who you are at this point. It's a gift that few people on earth have, if repetition is the only thing that matters than everyone in the league would be great at shooting.

Wtf!!!! Lol
He has been criticized for his lack of shooting for years, and now he tells us that its his main priority this off season??!
What a clown! I agree. Its either you have it or not.

only clown here is the Smaht hate club leaders. If you think Mahcus is the reason why we haven't taken that next step, then your not watching these games! White picked it up a bit over the last few games, but he was nowhere to be found when we were down 3-0.... Draymond and Barkley nailed it, we're a soft bunch and when the lights are bright, our All NBA guys disappear... And our coach is AMATEUR HOUR on the sidelines, they better bring in a proven vet that can scoop up Joes job when he is eventually let go...

You’re obviously a fan boy!
Mahcus Smaht lol too obvious haha
After all this years, and pushing 30, and now he says he would practice shooting??!!! Hahahaha **** that!

[ajones9219]

I think you guys are fooling yourselves if you think any of smart/Tatum/brown/Horford/white/Brogdan/timelord will be moved. If we do anything it will be with the Grant/Pritchard/Muscala/Hauser contracts.

The most likely move is something small for grant (s&t)/Pritchard and roll with what we have, the most talented roster in the league.

Get Joe some vet assistant coaches and run it back with Gallo.