State of Cowboys Union?

[Micah Prescott]

I thought I would give my take on Dak as a neutral.

The jury is pretty much out on Dak at this point. He's a guy who you can win with, as long as he has a good/strong supporting cast around him. He's not someone who can necessarily carry or elevate a team. But he's more of a game manager.

Dallas has a good enough team to compete. The problem was they just ran into a buzz saw in the playoffs (SF). You can't make mistakes against that defense.

As long as Dak manages the game & doesn't turn the ball over, then they'll have a chance. That defense is too good.

Russell Wilson was at one time, great at doing just that. The legion of Boom defense was so dominant, that all Russ had to do was manage. Not make mistakes. That's how they won a Super Bowl.

Yeah this is a fair take, although I don't think Dak is a game manager really but needs to be more of one (like Purdy) But that was your point I guess.

I think Wilson and that historically elite defense he had is a good example of what it take to win with Dak, and I also think that is the case for almost every QB in the top half of the NFL. The only exception is Mahomes who is in his own tier.

For teams that do not have Mahomes, we have no other choice to try and build elite casts around what we have.

There are really only 3 or 4 QB's who would qualify as elite caliber. Guys who can take over a game & opposing teams can't do anything to stop them. Mahomes, Allen, Rodgers, and Burrow is quickly becoming that guy.

The reason SF won that game, is because Purdy made less mistakes. If Dak outplays him & doesn't turn the ball over, Dallas wins that game.

Maybe so but SF did not capitalize on Dak's turnovers and SF also had a turnover. All they had was a 1 turnover edge. I can agree though that Dak needs more game manager in him, don't try and force wins, don't try and create magic.

Of the QBs you listed I don't think Rodgers belongs any more, and Allen and Burrow have no ring. To me it is really just Mahomes all by himself.

Rodgers used to be that guy you could win with without an elite cast of WRs but I think we can see now that he can not win with an Adams to throw to.

[Mr B]

The other thing, as I already mentioned, is that it is pretty much impossible to upgrade Dak, so it isn't even worth debate.

You guys say he needs to go but the best solution you have is to call Brady? That isn't a real solution. There is no real solution. There is no team in the NFL with a clear QB above Dak who would ever come off their guy. And Dak has a no-trade clause anyway IIRC.

We have pretty much an undisputed top-3 QB in the NFC, that *should* be good enough to focus on the other postions.

Yea like it or not Dak is the Cowboys QB for this generation. He’s not going anywhere until he retires more than likely. That’s why I feel they need to upgrade the skill positions and keep loading up on defense.

[Cactus Jack]

Yeah this is a fair take, although I don't think Dak is a game manager really but needs to be more of one (like Purdy) But that was your point I guess.

I think Wilson and that historically elite defense he had is a good example of what it take to win with Dak, and I also think that is the case for almost every QB in the top half of the NFL. The only exception is Mahomes who is in his own tier.

For teams that do not have Mahomes, we have no other choice to try and build elite casts around what we have.

There are really only 3 or 4 QB's who would qualify as elite caliber. Guys who can take over a game & opposing teams can't do anything to stop them. Mahomes, Allen, Rodgers, and Burrow is quickly becoming that guy.

The reason SF won that game, is because Purdy made less mistakes. If Dak outplays him & doesn't turn the ball over, Dallas wins that game.

Maybe so but SF did not capitalize on Dak's turnovers and SF also had a turnover. All they had was a 1 turnover edge. I can agree though that Dak needs more game manager in him, don't try and force wins, don't try and create magic.

Of the QBs you listed I don't think Rodgers belongs any more, and Allen and Burrow have no ring. To me it is really just Mahomes all by himself.

Rodgers used to be that guy you could win with without an elite cast of WRs but I think we can see now that he can not win with an Adams to throw to.

Rodgers is aging, but he can still take over a game. He played with an injury last year. Broken thumb.

When Josh Allen is rolling, he's hard to stop. Obviously Mahomes is the guy.

[Micah Prescott]

The other thing, as I already mentioned, is that it is pretty much impossible to upgrade Dak, so it isn't even worth debate.

You guys say he needs to go but the best solution you have is to call Brady? That isn't a real solution. There is no real solution. There is no team in the NFL with a clear QB above Dak who would ever come off their guy. And Dak has a no-trade clause anyway IIRC.

We have pretty much an undisputed top-3 QB in the NFC, that *should* be good enough to focus on the other postions.

Yea like it or not Dak is the Cowboys QB for this generation. He’s not going anywhere until he retires more than likely. That’s why I feel they need to upgrade the skill positions and keep loading up on defense.

I had originally thought that this coming season was a make-or-break season for Dak in Dallas but it does look like we will have to give him a new contract.

I think a trade scenario is possible, if say Dak signs a new contract and then Dallas fails to do anything. Like Stafford for Goff.


I think in that situation though we would be trading down and someone would have to give us draft picks + their QB. Because I do not think us packaging Dak with picks could get us an Allen or anything like that. I don't think we could trade upward only downward. Maybe someone who is mid tier that maybe could use a change of scenery (like Goff)

[Mr B]

There are really only 3 or 4 QB's who would qualify as elite caliber. Guys who can take over a game & opposing teams can't do anything to stop them. Mahomes, Allen, Rodgers, and Burrow is quickly becoming that guy.

The reason SF won that game, is because Purdy made less mistakes. If Dak outplays him & doesn't turn the ball over, Dallas wins that game.

Maybe so but SF did not capitalize on Dak's turnovers and SF also had a turnover. All they had was a 1 turnover edge. I can agree though that Dak needs more game manager in him, don't try and force wins, don't try and create magic.

Of the QBs you listed I don't think Rodgers belongs any more, and Allen and Burrow have no ring. To me it is really just Mahomes all by himself.

Rodgers used to be that guy you could win with without an elite cast of WRs but I think we can see now that he can not win with an Adams to throw to.

Rodgers is aging, but he can still take over a game. He played with an injury last year. Broken thumb.

When Josh Allen is rolling, he's hard to stop. Obviously Mahomes is the guy.

I have the Jets and A-a-ron winning that division this year.

[bluejerseyjinx]

The other thing, as I already mentioned, is that it is pretty much impossible to upgrade Dak, so it isn't even worth debate.

You guys say he needs to go but the best solution you have is to call Brady? That isn't a real solution. There is no real solution. There is no team in the NFL with a clear QB above Dak who would ever come off their guy. And Dak has a no-trade clause anyway IIRC.

We have pretty much an undisputed top-3 QB in the NFC, that *should* be good enough to focus on the other postions.

Yea like it or not Dak is the Cowboys QB for this generation. He’s not going anywhere until he retires more than likely. That’s why I feel they need to upgrade the skill positions and keep loading up on defense.

If that is the way you feel then don't expect a trip to the Super bowl in this generation. Unless we can make this defense like the 1986 Chicago Bears, this team won't go anywhere with Mike McCarthy, and Dak "Pee brain" Prescott at the helms. And then there is Jerry. Onward through the fog.

[bluejerseyjinx]

MAKE OR BREAK SEASON FOR BOTH DAK AND McCARTHY. Brady retired and gone. Rodgers and Wilson gone to the AFC. This will be the best opportunity the Cowboys will have a chance to get by the divisional round and make it to the Championship game a Super bowl. I mean if not this year, when? With Hurts as Dak's only real QB competition in the conference, falling short of the championship game will be the demise of Dak and next year Dan Quinn will be the new head coach. Can't help but wonder if Prescott and McCarthy can handle the pressure and high expectations.

[Cactus Jack]

MAKE OR BREAK SEASON FOR BOTH DAK AND McCARTHY. Brady retired and gone. Rodgers and Wilson gone to the AFC. This will be the best opportunity the Cowboys will have a chance to get by the divisional round and make it to the Championship game a Super bowl. I mean if not this year, when? With Hurts as Dak's only real QB competition in the conference, falling short of the championship game will be the demise of Dak and next year Dan Quinn will be the new head coach. Can't help but wonder if Prescott and McCarthy can handle the pressure and high expectations.

Idk man...Geno might give him a run.

The NFC is so wide open.

It might be make or break for McCarthy.

[bluejerseyjinx]

MAKE OR BREAK SEASON FOR BOTH DAK AND McCARTHY. Brady retired and gone. Rodgers and Wilson gone to the AFC. This will be the best opportunity the Cowboys will have a chance to get by the divisional round and make it to the Championship game a Super bowl. I mean if not this year, when? With Hurts as Dak's only real QB competition in the conference, falling short of the championship game will be the demise of Dak and next year Dan Quinn will be the new head coach. Can't help but wonder if Prescott and McCarthy can handle the pressure and high expectations.

Idk man...Geno might give him a run.

The NFC is so wide open.

It might be make or break for McCarthy.

There is no might. It is.

[Micah Prescott]

I used to think this coming season was a make or break year for Dak and McCarthy.

Now I think that is only the situation for McCarthy.

I think Dak is going to get a big contract before the end of next season.

[Cactus Jack]

I used to think this coming season was a make or break year for Dak and McCarthy.

Now I think that is only the situation for McCarthy.

I think Dak is going to get a big contract before the end of next season.

Regardless if Dak gets a new contract or not, he's still owed a lot of money beyond this year.

As much as Bjj would love to cut ties with both, it's just not feasible.

Dak is owed money until 2026. 2025 is a void year (contract), but will still carry a significant cap charge.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/dallas-cowboys/dak-prescott-19089/

[Mr B]

The other thing, as I already mentioned, is that it is pretty much impossible to upgrade Dak, so it isn't even worth debate.

You guys say he needs to go but the best solution you have is to call Brady? That isn't a real solution. There is no real solution. There is no team in the NFL with a clear QB above Dak who would ever come off their guy. And Dak has a no-trade clause anyway IIRC.

We have pretty much an undisputed top-3 QB in the NFC, that *should* be good enough to focus on the other postions.

Yea like it or not Dak is the Cowboys QB for this generation. He’s not going anywhere until he retires more than likely. That’s why I feel they need to upgrade the skill positions and keep loading up on defense.

If that is the way you feel then don't expect a trip to the Super bowl in this generation. Unless we can make this defense like the 1986 Chicago Bears, this team won't go anywhere with Mike McCarthy, and Dak "Pee brain" Prescott at the helms. And then there is Jerry. Onward through the fog.

I’m not. Honestly I don’t expect them to ever get past round 2.

[Micah Prescott]

Is it possible for them to win a ring? Yes, ecspecially if they construct a truly elite defense.

Is it likely this team will win a ring? no it isn't. For one, the Chiefs are a monster. The AFC in general is like the 90s NFC.

We need a miracle year, and those happen. It can happen. ANY GIVEN SUNDAY.

Have hope, because watching this game is no fun without it.

[Mr B]

Is it possible for them to win a ring? Yes, ecspecially if they construct a truly elite defense.

Is it likely this team will win a ring? no it isn't. For one, the Chiefs are a monster. The AFC in general is like the 90s NFC.

We need a miracle year, and those happen. It can happen. ANY GIVEN SUNDAY.

Have hope, because watching this game is no fun without it.

Obviously there’s an outside chance that the Cowboys could win a SB but after 27 years they need to prove they can get past the 2nd round before I can give them any real credit.

[Micah Prescott]

Is it possible for them to win a ring? Yes, ecspecially if they construct a truly elite defense.

Is it likely this team will win a ring? no it isn't. For one, the Chiefs are a monster. The AFC in general is like the 90s NFC.

We need a miracle year, and those happen. It can happen. ANY GIVEN SUNDAY.

Have hope, because watching this game is no fun without it.

Obviously there’s an outside chance that the Cowboys could win a SB but after 27 years they need to prove they can get past the 2nd round before I can give them any real credit.

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[bluejerseyjinx]

Is it possible for them to win a ring? Yes, ecspecially if they construct a truly elite defense.

Is it likely this team will win a ring? no it isn't. For one, the Chiefs are a monster. The AFC in general is like the 90s NFC.

We need a miracle year, and those happen. It can happen. ANY GIVEN SUNDAY.

Have hope, because watching this game is no fun without it.

Obviously there’s an outside chance that the Cowboys could win a SB but after 27 years they need to prove they can get past the 2nd round before I can give them any real credit.

We won't go to a Super bowl or win one till Dan Quinn becomes head coach and we get a new or different QB. Plus we still have Jerry. Onward through the fog.

[Otis Driftwood]

Is it possible for them to win a ring? Yes, ecspecially if they construct a truly elite defense.

Is it likely this team will win a ring? no it isn't. For one, the Chiefs are a monster. The AFC in general is like the 90s NFC.

We need a miracle year, and those happen. It can happen. ANY GIVEN SUNDAY.

Have hope, because watching this game is no fun without it.

Obviously there’s an outside chance that the Cowboys could win a SB but after 27 years they need to prove they can get past the 2nd round before I can give them any real credit.

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Well... hopefully Gilmore shows Diggs what it takes to get to one. Because that effort he gave against SF in the playoffs ain't gonna get it done.

[Micah Prescott]

Obviously there’s an outside chance that the Cowboys could win a SB but after 27 years they need to prove they can get past the 2nd round before I can give them any real credit.

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Well... hopefully Gilmore shows Diggs what it takes to get to one. Because that effort he gave against SF in the playoffs ain't gonna get it done.

Yeah I love Diggs but I hope we do not give him a big contract.

We need to save our money for CeeDee and then Parsons who is going to get QB money.

[bluejerseyjinx]

I used to think this coming season was a make or break year for Dak and McCarthy.

Now I think that is only the situation for McCarthy.

I think Dak is going to get a big contract before the end of next season.

Regardless if Dak gets a new contract or not, he's still owed a lot of money beyond this year.

As much as Bjj would love to cut ties with both, it's just not feasible.

Dak is owed money until 2026. 2025 is a void year (contract), but will still carry a significant cap charge.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/dallas-cowboys/dak-prescott-19089/

If we give Dak an extension this will phuck over the franchise for another 5 years and you can forget about any super bowl appearance for the next decade. Talk about a slap in the face to Dan Quinn, Micah parsons and the defense and all the very good talent we have acquired the past 3 years. Dan Quinn will have a championship defense when he takes over the team next year. He's not gonna want that bum ruining what he and McClay have built. If they do that I will torch my blue room and burn over $20,000 of vintage memorabilia, jerseys, Cards, etc,. Its extremely hard to remain loyal and support such stupidity. I would be done. Done.
It may not be feasible, but things can happen and/or shake out after next season for an opportunity. I believe nothing is impossible if you really want to win. Money can change hands, deals can be made and billionare owners can make anything happen.

[bluejerseyjinx]

Is it possible for them to win a ring? Yes, ecspecially if they construct a truly elite defense.

Is it likely this team will win a ring? no it isn't. For one, the Chiefs are a monster. The AFC in general is like the 90s NFC.

We need a miracle year, and those happen. It can happen. ANY GIVEN SUNDAY.

Have hope, because watching this game is no fun without it.

Is this really what it comes down to now with you and your boy? A miracle. Any given Sunday.