Around the League - Donte to Knicks 4/$50

Post #1 » by **MickeyDavis** » Wed May 31, 2023 3:54 pm

Maxed out previous thread

MartyConlonOnTheRun · Post #2 » by **MartyConlonOnTheRun** » Wed May 31, 2023 3:55 pm

paulpressey25 wrote:This probably is just the salty fan in me, but I never understood what sort of magic beans Boston took last February, to suddenly go from a .500 team with no identity, to this juggernaut that made every three point attempt the top eight guys in the rotation would toss up.

The whole thing seemed like a house of cards that couldn't last. And it finally fell apart as Miami figured out (and had the personnel) to take them out of their comfort zone.

I'm oversimplifying it, but I think a lot of it has to do with Horford. They need him at a borderline all-star level. Somehow, he did that for a year at age whatever. The last 3 months, his play just dropped. Him being a 48-50% sniper from 3 while doubling Tatum was a killer.

HKPackFan · Post #3 » by **HKPackFan** » Wed May 31, 2023 4:34 pm

Nuggets in 4/5. Gonna enjoy it. Good for jokic and good for the league to avoid a repeat for 5 years now?

jute2003 · Post #4 » by **jute2003** » Wed May 31, 2023 4:37 pm

Jaylen brown supermax....yucky

Post #5 » by **paulpressey25** » Wed May 31, 2023 5:49 pm

MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:I'm oversimplifying it, but I think a lot of it has to do with Horford. They need him at a borderline all-star level. Somehow, he did that for a year at age whatever. The last 3 months, his play just dropped. Him being a 48-50% sniper from 3 while doubling Tatum was a killer.

I'm a Bud apologist, but the Heat had both the personnel and scheme to make his life uncomfortable at the three point line. Don't have the data, but he wasn't getting many open looks against Miami, whereas he got a ton of them against us last year.

Matches Malone · Post #6 » by **Matches Malone** » Wed May 31, 2023 6:33 pm

Hoping Charles Lee can get his shot.

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KendallMarshall · Post #7 » by **KendallMarshall** » Wed May 31, 2023 6:57 pm

Who has the edge here, the rusty nuggets who haven't played for a week and a half, or the fatigued heat, who are fresh off a seven game series?

MartyConlonOnTheRun · Post #8 » by **MartyConlonOnTheRun** » Wed May 31, 2023 7:12 pm

paulpressey25 wrote:
MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:I'm oversimplifying it, but I think a lot of it has to do with Horford. They need him at a borderline all-star level. Somehow, he did that for a year at age whatever. The last 3 months, his play just dropped. Him being a 48-50% sniper from 3 while doubling Tatum was a killer.

I'm a Bud apologist, but the Heat had both the personnel and scheme to make his life uncomfortable at the three point line. Don't have the data, but he wasn't getting many open looks against Miami, whereas he got a ton of them against us last year.

It wasn't just Miami. I think he is just a totally shell of the 39 minutes a game player we saw last year. As a Bucks fan, I hope this trend continues where he declines even more next year. Giannis doesn't seem to do great against smart centers and will fair much better against Robert Williams.
2022 Playoffs: 48% 66%TS!!
2022-3 RS: 45%

23 ATL: 36%
23 PHI: 28%
23 MIA: 28%
23 Playoffs: 29% 50%TS; 4 FT attempts all series, minutes down 15%, rebound rate down.....

Ron Swanson · Post #9 » by **Ron Swanson** » Wed May 31, 2023 7:20 pm

Yep, if we got this version of Horford last season then we're in the 2022 Conference Finals and not Boston. Just sucks that we had to face the last visage of Dirk Horford (he actually shot worse from 3 vs. us than any other series) before he finally dropped off a cliff.

BUCKnation · Post #10 » by **BUCKnation** » Wed May 31, 2023 9:36 pm

At some point the heat are gonna lose in 5 right?

BUCKnation · Post #11 » by **BUCKnation** » Wed May 31, 2023 9:39 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Yep, if we got this version of Horford last season then we're in the 2022 Conference Finals and not Boston. Just sucks that we had to face the last visage of Dirk Horford (he actually shot worse from 3 vs. us than any other series) before he finally dropped off a cliff.

Rob williams, who is a better matchup for us with brook, also got injured forcing more horford minutes in the first place. Got doubly unlucky.

PintSizedBox10 · Post #12 » by **PintSizedBox10** » Wed May 31, 2023 9:59 pm

BUCKnation wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:Yep, if we got this version of Horford last season then we're in the 2022 Conference Finals and not Boston. Just sucks that we had to face the last visage of Dirk Horford (he actually shot worse from 3 vs. us than any other series) before he finally dropped off a cliff.

Rob williams, who is a better matchup for us with brook, also got injured forcing more horford minutes in the first place. Got doubly unlucky.

All the Bucks had to do was not leave him wide open.

TroyD92 · Post #13 » by **TroyD92** » Wed May 31, 2023 10:00 pm

KendallMarshall wrote:Who has the edge here, the rusty nuggets who haven't played for a week and a half, or the fatigued heat, who are fresh off a seven game series?

Think the altitude gives the nuggets a significant edge

ReginaldDwight · Post #14 » by **ReginaldDwight** » Thu Jun 1, 2023 12:19 am

TroyD92 wrote:
KendallMarshall wrote:Who has the edge here, the rusty nuggets who haven't played for a week and a half, or the fatigued heat, who are fresh off a seven game series?

Think the altitude gives the nuggets a significant edge

100 percent it gives them the edge they also have the healthier lineup.

Jez2983 · Post #15 » by **Jez2983** » Thu Jun 1, 2023 12:19 am

KendallMarshall wrote:Who has the edge here, the rusty nuggets who haven't played for a week and a half, or the fatigued heat, who are fresh off a seven game series?

I'm going to make a silly comment and say whoever hits their threes. If there's a team hot early, it'll be them.

Post #16 » by **ReasonablySober** » Thu Jun 1, 2023 12:21 am

Go to hell, Miami!

blazza18 · Post #17 » by **blazza18** » Thu Jun 1, 2023 12:59 am

Feel stupid thinking writing Miami off is crazy but it's hard to see how they can beat Denver in Denver more than once. Bam has had almost nothing for the Jokic matchup when I've watched previously so interested in seeing what Spo does there.

Denver in a respectable 5 game series.

Matches Malone · Post #18 » by **Matches Malone** » Thu Jun 1, 2023 1:56 am

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Post #19 » by **ReasonablySober** » Thu Jun 1, 2023 1:56 am

Jesus.

RiotPunch · Post #20 » by **RiotPunch** » Thu Jun 1, 2023 1:59 am

Damn. Happy trails, Charles Lee.