Nikola Jokic vs Moses Malone

[tsherkin]

I agree with your point, but how Dave Cowens wasn't a defensive anchor? Cowens is easily one of the best defenders ever. You don't have to block a lot of shots to be an anchor.

I agree that you don't have to block a lot of shots to be an anchor. We can discuss him another time in another thread, if you like.

[wojoaderge]

You won't find a bigger Moses fan than me here.

He's not in your Top 20 and you have the Admiral over him ;0)

Yes, I am also the biggest Adrian Dantley fan on this board and I don't have him inside my top 50. So what?

I'm saying i'm a bigger fan so there

[kcktiny]

If you were less interested in making an incredulous response

Let me get this straight - you are calling someone's response incredulous, when that was a response to your incredulous post?

Incredulous - "unwilling to admit or accept what is offered as true" (www.m-w.com).

NBA coaches voted Malone the top defensive C in the league in 1982-83, but here you are some 4 decades later saying:

he also wasn't a defensive anchor

So tell us - how or why did the NBA coaches that game planned against Malone on a nightly basis some 40 years ago get it wrong? And who should have been named the top defensive C and why?

And when called on the carpet for such an incredulous statement, you can only reply with:

And?

Which certainly implies that you don't know.

On top of this you go on and say:

there are MANY questions about his overall impact over the years

Which in essence says nothing. How about what questions? Was his impact better? Worse? And why?

You have a habit of making statements that you can't seem to back up.

Like this:

and he was considerably lower-impact on offense

You say this based on what? Malone was the far better scorer, far better offensive rebounder, drew far more fouls, played far more minutes. What makes you say he was lower impact on offense?

Because back then he was considered one of the greatest offensive players in the league.

[70sFan]

He's not in your Top 20 and you have the Admiral over him ;0)

Yes, I am also the biggest Adrian Dantley fan on this board and I don't have him inside my top 50. So what?

I'm saying i'm a bigger fan so there

I guess you are the only one competing with me then

[AEnigma]

Interesting how Moses demands defensive praise relative to Jokic for fouling less and having a mildly better raw block rate in an era where centres blocked shots more often than they do now, but the same courtesy cannot be extended to Jokic for being a substantially better defensive rebounder, being substantially better in passing lanes (both in accumulating steals and in deflecting passes), and being on much better defensive teams than Moses ever was before he joined a core of Cheeks, Erving, and Bobby Jones.

[billy bremner]

fo fo fo

[RTG HD]

You won't find a bigger Moses fan than me here. It's Jokic quite comfortably.

I really think Moses is under rated by fans today but yeah, I agree.