Pritchard's value in a trade

[cl2117]

Pritchard can ask for a trade all he wants, but if C's can't get anything of significant value for him it just doesn't make sense.

He's injury/trade insurance. A bit expensive at $4m, but with Brogdon/Smart it's a good bet you'll need that insurance at some stage due to injury (especially with Malcolm). On top of that if we're making a significant trade it's likely to be moving one of our guards, at which point he gets his 15 mins a game role back (assuming a guard isn't coming back in said trade, which wouldn't really make sense anyway).

I'd be looking to attach #35 to him and see how high up we can get. If you can't crack the first round, unfortunately for PP, just doesn't really make sense to move him at all.

Hold onto him and wait for a team to hit and injury situation where they could use him or makes a big trade where they need some guard depth to balance out the roster.

He played a solid 15 mins a night for a team that went to the Finals last year. You don't just give that away for nothing, even if he asks nicely.

[jfs1000d]

Pritchard probably worth 40th pick.

[jfs1000d]

Unless a team is willing to give us a no. 1 pick for Pritchard, I see no reason to trade him. He is a nice 4th guard who can be plugged in when need be. And he is cheap. In a year he is a restricted free agent and we have the right to match. We could accept the qualifying offer and stay for a 5th season and then be a UFA in 2025. We get a decent guy on cheap money for two years.

No reason to just dump him....unless we get a first rounder.

Keep him.

Part of the reason you trade him is simply because he wants to be traded, he is good enough to play regular minutes on some team or another, and it isn't fair to him to keep him on the bench for another season.

Everyone needs to win or it doesn't work out over the long run.

This is 100% right. Pritchard has limited years in the NBA. Probably has one contact and will be out of the league at 31. He needs to play and show he is worth a a 2-3 year contract.

He is guaranteed $4M, but he wants to prove he belongs in the NBA, which he most certainly does. Trade him and do the right thing.

[hugepatsfan]

I picked second round 31-45 range over 45-60 because I'm an optimist. But really I'd break the third round into thirds and say he's worth somewhere 40-49.

[BK_2020]

Unless a team is willing to give us a no. 1 pick for Pritchard, I see no reason to trade him. He is a nice 4th guard who can be plugged in when need be. And he is cheap. In a year he is a restricted free agent and we have the right to match. We could accept the qualifying offer and stay for a 5th season and then be a UFA in 2025. We get a decent guy on cheap money for two years.

No reason to just dump him....unless we get a first rounder.

Keep him.

Part of the reason you trade him is simply because he wants to be traded, he is good enough to play regular minutes on some team or another, and it isn't fair to him to keep him on the bench for another season.

Everyone needs to win or it doesn't work out over the long run.

This is 100% right. Pritchard has limited years in the NBA. Probably has one contact and will be out of the league at 31. He needs to play and show he is worth a a 2-3 year contract.

He is guaranteed $4M, but he wants to prove he belongs in the NBA, which he most certainly does. Trade him and do the right thing.

He played over 3300 minutes in 3 years, regular season and playoffs combined. If he hasn't proved he belongs in the NBA (and in fact his minutes have consistently gone down), it's because he sucks not because the Celtics are keeping him down by not giving him minutes. We don't owe him anything.

[hugepatsfan]

Part of the reason you trade him is simply because he wants to be traded, he is good enough to play regular minutes on some team or another, and it isn't fair to him to keep him on the bench for another season.

Everyone needs to win or it doesn't work out over the long run.

This is 100% right. Pritchard has limited years in the NBA. Probably has one contact and will be out of the league at 31. He needs to play and show he is worth a a 2-3 year contract.

He is guaranteed $4M, but he wants to prove he belongs in the NBA, which he most certainly does. Trade him and do the right thing.

He played over 3300 minutes in 3 years, regular season and playoffs combined. If he hasn't proved he belongs in the NBA (and in fact his minutes have consistently gone down), it's because he sucks not because the Celtics are keeping him down by not giving him minutes. We don't owe him anything.

I disagree he hasn't proven he belongs in the NBA. He hasn't proven he belongs in a playoff rotation. He should never be in any team's top 7 or 8 players for sure. But 9th or 10th, I think he's proven himself fine in that way.

Not every team is blessed to have as much talent 1 through 7 or 8 like we do. So whereas even in the regular season we don't have much time for the 9th or especially 10th guy, several other teams play those guys more in the regular season. Pritchard would do fine as a 9th/10th man on some team that goes 10-deep in the regular season. Consistent 15-20 minutes a night.

[BK_2020]

Looks like Pritchard just asked out???? The modern NBA truly is a crazy place.

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/271767/Payton-Pritchard-Seeking-Trade-From-Celtics

[shackles10]

So picks 25-30 are:
25) Memphis
26) Indiana
27) Charlotte
28) Utah
29) Indiana
30) LA Clippers

I'd like to think Pritchard is worth a late first, but I don't know who in that group would rather have PP than their pick. Maybe Charlotte? We know Danny likes him, but you also know how Danny loves draft picks.

[165bows]

So picks 25-30 are:
25) Memphis
26) Indiana
27) Charlotte
28) Utah
29) Indiana
30) LA Clippers

I'd like to think Pritchard is worth a late first, but I don't know who in that group would rather have PP than their pick. Maybe Charlotte? We know Danny likes him, but you also know how Danny loves draft picks.

Could see Memphis being interested if the Morant thing becomes a big issue. Not sure the value that gets moved but that fit makes sense if Morant is out for a bit.

[Hal14]

Pritchard can ask for a trade all he wants, but if C's can't get anything of significant value for him it just doesn't make sense.

You don't want a guy here on the team who doesn't want to be here - who's not happy here.

You don't want a guy who's disgruntled on the team, a guy who's gonna be whining (he was quoted during the season prior to all-star break saying he wanted to be traded, and now as soon as we get eliminated he's saying it again), who's gonna cause problems in the locker room.

Just get rid of him. Get what you can. Take the best deal you can find. It's not worth it to have an unhappy guy on the team. He's not worth it - he's an end of the bench guy.

[cl2117]

Pritchard can ask for a trade all he wants, but if C's can't get anything of significant value for him it just doesn't make sense.

You don't want a guy here on the team who doesn't want to be here - who's not happy here.

You don't want a guy who's disgruntled on the team, a guy who's gonna be whining (he was quoted during the season prior to all-star break saying he wanted to be traded, and now as soon as we get eliminated he's saying it again), who's gonna cause problems in the locker room.

Just get rid of him. Get what you can. Take the best deal you can find. It's not worth it to have an unhappy guy on the team. He's not worth it - he's an end of the bench guy.

He was a playoff rotation piece for us last year. He's not your usual end of the bench player. He's a Brogdon injury away from being slotted back into a similar role again. Plus he doesn't seem like the kind of guy who will cause locker room issues even if he's unhappy. This whole season it's been reported he wants out and isn't happy and it hasn't been a distraction or a storyline at all really.

I'm fine with trading him, but I just don't think you "take what you can get" and cut ties. If you're swapping him for a 2nd in the 40's or later it's just not worth it. You're better off keeping him as insurance even if that sucks for him.

If you can get a high 2nd or combine him with #35 to move up a bit, then by all means go for it, but I don't think it's wise just to move him for the sake of it.

[BK_2020]

He was a playoff rotation piece for us last year. He's not your usual end of the bench player. He's a Brogdon injury away from being slotted back into a similar role again.

There was a Brogdon injury and Pritchard was glued to the bench despite it. And not for Joe's lack of trying. He tried Pritchard twice and each time it was awful. He was awful also in 2022 playoffs (.333 three point %) and in 2021 (.300 3P%).

[Fencer reregistered]

Pritchard's stats went down his 3rd year of college too.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pritcpa01.html

[Hal14]

Pritchard can ask for a trade all he wants, but if C's can't get anything of significant value for him it just doesn't make sense.

You don't want a guy here on the team who doesn't want to be here - who's not happy here.

You don't want a guy who's disgruntled on the team, a guy who's gonna be whining (he was quoted during the season prior to all-star break saying he wanted to be traded, and now as soon as we get eliminated he's saying it again), who's gonna cause problems in the locker room.

Just get rid of him. Get what you can. Take the best deal you can find. It's not worth it to have an unhappy guy on the team. He's not worth it - he's an end of the bench guy.

He was a playoff rotation piece for us last year. He's not your usual end of the bench player. He's a Brogdon injury away from being slotted back into a similar role again.

And he's asking for a trade.

So trade him.

There's lots of guys out there we could get to replace him as a deep bench, emergency back up guard. Get someone like RJ Hampton, or sign Derrick Rose to the veteran's minimum. Rose didn't seem to mind riding the bench this season for the Knicks.

The Kings have Matthew Dellavedova playing a similar role for them. The warriors have Ty Jerome as a deep bench guard. The year before that, the warriors needed a deep bench guard and scooped up Gary Payton II out of the g-league - these guys aren't hard to find. The Sixers have Shake Milton. Maybe we sign Patty Mills to a minimum deal, or Goran Dragic.

Hell, what Pritchard gave us this season - we could even bring back Kemba or IT and have them do it. Better vibes that way, too. Or we could even bring back Carsen Edwards or Tremont Waters to do it.

Or just have Davison and Madar compete for the spot in summer league/training camp.

[BleedGreen1989]

Trade him to a team with fit and a need. GS or Toronto are good fits for him. PP (filler) for Kuminga

Kuminga is just dreaming.

That said I do think the odds of GS moving Poole somewhere else and a three-way deal with them getting PP is a definite possibility. GS saves $ and gets better fitting pieces. PP would kill there.

Not really sure who would give much value for Poole though.

I think PP would fit best (as others have mentioned) along a non-PG ball-dominant guy. So eg in LA with Lebron, Dallas, or wherever Harden goes.

Alternatively, any of the teams that are attempting to compete that need cheap PG help. Chicago, MIN, MIA, Charlotte maybe (always starts with good intentions). We've made tons of deals with OKC and they have too many picks, he could upgrade Tre Mann. LAC didn't seem too happy with Bones so that could work as well they just don't have much to offer.

Glad someone said it. PP for Kuminga is a wildly homer idea.

[zoyathedestroya]

Pritchard + Gallinari for Cunningham works in the trade machine. And in my mind. Pull the trigger, Brad! We need a backup PG.

[BK_2020]

. Or we could even bring back Carsen Edwards or Tremont Waters to do it.

Looks like Tremont was pretty good for Wembanyama's team this season, but the real revelation is that a guy named Ho You Fat was on the roster.

[cl2117]

You don't want a guy here on the team who doesn't want to be here - who's not happy here.

You don't want a guy who's disgruntled on the team, a guy who's gonna be whining (he was quoted during the season prior to all-star break saying he wanted to be traded, and now as soon as we get eliminated he's saying it again), who's gonna cause problems in th ok noe locker room.

Just get rid of him. Get what you can. Take the best deal you can find. It's not worth it to have an unhappy guy on the team. He's not worth it - he's an end of the bench guy.

He was a playoff rotation piece for us last year. He's not your usual end of the bench player. He's a Brogdon injury away from being slotted back into a similar role again.

And he's asking for a trade.

So trade him.

There's lots of guys out there we could get to replace him as a deep bench, emergency back up guard. Get someone like RJ Hampton, or sign Derrick Rose to the veteran's minimum.

The Kings have Matthew Dellavedova playing a similar role for them. The warriors have Ty Jerome as a deep bench guard. The Sixers have Shake Milton. These types of guys aren't hard to find. Maybe we sign Patty Mills to a minimum deal, or Goran Dragic.

Hell, what Pritchard gave us this season - we could even bring back Kemba or IT and have them do it. Better vibes that way, too. Or we could even bring back Carsen Edwards or Tremont Waters to do it.

Or just have Davison and Madar compete for the spot in summer league/training camp.

It's just bad asset management to give him away. Again not saying you shouldn't trade him or that he's not replaceable but just that you shouldn't give him away. You're a weak GM if you're acquiescing to trade demands from guys like Pritchard to the detriment of the team.

What kind of deal are you expecting to get for him? I think there is a genuine chance you can get a solid return but you might need to hang on to him longer than you'd like.

[gocelts]

He’s been given as much if not more opportunities than any young player to contribute.

He’s too inconsistent of a shooter, gets picked on defensively, and isn’t a strong enough dribbler or passer to run the true point.

He’s a fine 5th guard on a great team, a mediocre teams back up, and a poor teams starter. He’s right to ask for a trade. He’s not going to get more run on a team like ours.

It’s time to move on. No one will give a 1st. Just get whatever second rounder we can grab and be done with it. Finding the package 3 way deal is just too unlikely and we can’t afford much else.

[31to6]

I generally like Pritchard, but wish he were more of a 'true' point guard, which makes it easier for me to look forward to the Davison-as-3rd-string-PG era, which (unless they move someone like Malcolm this summer) I'm guessing might begin as early as this fall.